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This idealization of "the perfect woman" (a.k.a virgin) is a common thing between people, especially conservatives people. And believe or not, more and more i perceive that a lot of the users in this site, who are playing these type of games, are conservative people in regards of how the LIs in VNs should be and behave.
Mostly scared, i believe. There's deeply rooted inferiority complex that makes one feel the only possible outcome of girl having sex with someone else is, she'll find that other guy superior in this regard. And so, the only way to avoid it is to ensure she's never ever had nor will have sex with anyone else.

(incidentally, this makes Sage's 3/5 rating thing hilarious)
I don't care if she has had something between her legs before, I just don't want to watch someone else do it. :)
 

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Can anybody help me? I've already practiced twice with the guitar(One in HOT's house and the other in the DIK's house when Josy is sleeping there) but I still get the bad outcome of Jill's concert, also, I can't practice in ep 8 cause every time I press on the guitar it seems that it doesn't exist.
 

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Can anybody help me? I've already practiced twice with the guitar(One in HOT's house and the other in the DIK's house when Josy is sleeping there) but I still get the bad outcome of Jill's concert, also, I can't practice in ep 8 cause every time I press on the guitar it seems that it doesn't exist.
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Can anybody help me? I've already practiced twice with the guitar(One in HOT's house and the other in the DIK's house when Josy is sleeping there) but I still get the bad outcome of Jill's concert, also, I can't practice in ep 8 cause every time I press on the guitar it seems that it doesn't exist.
In episode 8 it should be an optional task in your phone if she thinks your a nice guy to "Practice on Jill's song". The same free roam where you mess with the black box and when you can call Bella about a date if your on her path.
 
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I figure so that the DPC will start from EP9 so that the rejected LI's will reveal to us girls their past dates and boyfriends and that he could create relationships for those girls.

Why? The MC, that is us players, commits us to a Li in EP8. Therefore the other girls can get boyfriends. Stupid only if the player has made several runs with different girls, because then the situation occurs, which DPC probably wanted to avoid.

I also assume so that DPC will use the karma. What the MC does to the Girl's, the MC gets back. So what Tommy said in EP8 gets a kanns new meaning. He said so it then actually gets serious after the first date. This is probably true for every LI.
 
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Best example of this I saw was in the thread for Rovering To Sussex, I've not played the game but apparently there's a potential LI (who at this point has no relationship with the MC) giving another guy a blowjob, you can choose to walk in and join in or just walk past the room. Apparently even though you could avoid the girl being an LI or just walk past and not see anything the fact they knew it was happening made the anti-NTR brigade foam at the mouth. Not only will they boycott that game but they will also boycott the artist's other game which has zero content like that.
Bullshit. I modded the game (BTW I was the very first fucker on the planet to mod a RenPy v8 title :p which was RTS). Just because you know a girl's name does NOT inherently make her a "LI". That's like expecting every single female on Earth to remain a virgin until you as an individual decide who you might or might not want to fuck later on. That's not reasonable in the slightest of degrees, wouldn't you agree? RTS is destined to be a high-rank VN, I've spoken privately with the dev team extensively. I'm not directing this directly at you but making a point in general... for whatever the fuck it's worth from me which is likely not too damn much but whatever, it's my 2 Pesos worth regardless. Regards.
 

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Can anybody help me? I've already practiced twice with the guitar(One in HOT's house and the other in the DIK's house when Josy is sleeping there) but I still get the bad outcome of Jill's concert, also, I can't practice in ep 8 cause every time I press on the guitar it seems that it doesn't exist.
In episode 8 it should be an optional task in your phone if she thinks your a nice guy to "Practice on Jill's song". The same free roam where you mess with the black box and when you can call Bella about a date if your on her path.
Here's the real scoop. All you need is 2 of 3 practice sessions out of the Ep4/Ep6/Ep8 guitar practices. That's all, nothing else. The conditional to help Jill:

if (ep4_playedGuitar and ep6_diks_guitar_event) or (ep4_playedGuitar and ep8_diks_guitar_event) or (ep6_diks_guitar_event and ep8_diks_guitar_event)

That's all there is to it.
 

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Here's the real scoop. All you need is 2 of 3 practice sessions out of the Ep4/Ep6/Ep8 guitar practices. That's all, nothing else. The conditional to help Jill:

if (ep4_playedGuitar and ep6_diks_guitar_event) or (ep4_playedGuitar and ep8_diks_guitar_event) or (ep6_diks_guitar_event and ep8_diks_guitar_event)

That's all there is to it.
Well you see I CAN'T play the guitar in ep 8, that's my deal.
 

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Well you see I CAN'T play the guitar in ep 8, that's my deal.
It's available during the Ep8 DIK's free roam #1 (not #2), you click on the guitar and get a menu choice including "Practice song for Jill":
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Notice in SanchoMod's "Optional Task(s)" that "Practice on Jill's Song" is a criteria noted. It's just another way the mod might assist if desired.

Edit: Note that the reason I typed (not #2) is that in the second Ep8 free roam the guitar is NOT selectable... you must choose it during the FIRST Ep8 DIK's freeroam (or already have it in both Ep4 & Ep6 which negates the need to have Ep8... you only need 2 of the 3, you don't need all 3). You can trust me on this. I know my shit, I'm not Sancho for nothing, all others only try their best to copy me. Yes, that sounds arrogant but I'm sick of of the "green is best choice" bullshit and pirates stealing from fellow pirates so I'll always tell you like it is, no bullshit, no beating around the bush.

Let me know by flagging me if you need further assistance. I'll do my best to help out anyone's non-ignorant issues sincerely and honestly... just like I always have done. Again, regards.
 
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I think we're at crossed wires here, I was criticising the butthurt kids who were boycotting the game and in some cases Zargon's other game too) based on the one scene. I called her a "potential LI" as I believe that's how she was referred to by the devs.

FWIW I would welcome more realism in these games, as long as the MC is not in a relationship with a girl then that girl should be free to do whatever with whoever and if that happens to be in the vicinity of the MC then so be it.

For example I would have no problem with Sage hooking up with someone else on any of the playthroughs that aren't on her branch.
I got you bud. Again, it wasn't really directed at you personally but rather the mindset for consideration. It's all good, there's no cross wires nor crossroads.

Sage was in the relp before the MC even showed up to campus and ever saw her or even knew her fucked-up herbal name, so we have to properly consider that rationally... that's really my point. We weren't there first, therefore we are in for sloppy seconds by default if we (as a player) consider her an LI from the get-go or later on. She, again by default, already has/had history.

My first wife was a ginger and she was not a "fresh Spring flower". I knew that from the get-go in HS. By me being with her and having offspring was in no way NTR nor any derivative thereof. Again, that was my sole point and didn't mean it directed to you personally.
 
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I think we're at crossed wires here, I was criticising the butthurt kids who were boycotting the game and in some cases Zargon's other game too) based on the one scene. I called her a "potential LI" as I believe that's how she was referred to by the devs.

FWIW I would welcome more realism in these games, as long as the MC is not in a relationship with a girl then that girl should be free to do whatever with whoever and if that happens to be in the vicinity of the MC then so be it.

For example I would have no problem with Sage hooking up with someone else on any of the playthroughs that aren't on her branch.
True but people see it as one or the other most of the time. If you aren't on her path and actively pursuing her then it's not NTR but I think the only way that would work is if there are two outcomes for the "LIs". One where if you are on her path, it doesn't happen, and another for if you aren't and it does. Otherwise it is NTR as many see it.
 

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True but people see it as one or the other most of the time. If you aren't on her path and actively pursuing her then it's not NTR but I think the only way that would work is if there are two outcomes for the "LIs". One where if you are on her path, it doesn't happen, and another for if you aren't and it does. Otherwise it is NTR as many see it.
I have to strongly disagree FWIW. Someone's history before you even knew them does NOT fit any variant definition of "NTR". See my above post for brief reasoning. I reckon most folks really need to (at a minimum) gooooogle "NTR" to understand WTF it really is tbh. Again, this is not directed to you personally but rather the whole mindset dumpster fire that has become "any bitch that has ever fucked anything before me is NTR because she might be an LI at some point" nonsense. It's rather stupid imho, to the point of almost being Snowflake. (I'm not calling you a snowflake, but rather the mindset)
 
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I have to strongly disagree FWIW. Someone's history before you even knew them does NOT fit any variant definition of "NTR". See my above post for brief reasoning. I reckon most folks really need to (at a minimum) gooooogle "NTR" to understand WTF it really is tbh. Again, this is not directed to you personally but rather the whole mindset dumpster fire that has become "any bitch that has ever fucked anything before me is NTR because she might be an LI at some point" nonsense. It's rather stupid imho, to the point of almost being Snowflake. (I'm not calling you a snowflake, but rather the mindset)
I don't know what FWIW is, but I was saying that it doesn't matter to me if someone has a past, you know like everyone, and if I'm not going after her I don't care what she does. But on the other hand you will also always have the people that add NTR-esque content to the game and say "No ones jealous so it's not NTR." as a big safety blanket. But these conversations never go anywhere in the end and I'd rather not get into a whole spiel about a kink here, it's just my thoughts.
 

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I don't know what FWIW is, but I was saying that it doesn't matter to me if someone has a past, you know like everyone, and if I'm not going after her I don't care what she does. But on the other hand you will also always have the people that add NTR-esque content to the game and say "No ones jealous so it's not NTR." as a big safety blanket. But these conversations never go anywhere in the end and I'd rather not get into a whole spiel about a kink here, it's just my thoughts.
FWIW = For what it's worth.
Bud, I'm over 50 now and know that :ROFLMAO:. But I agree with you, once folks have shit stuffed in their head it's harder these days for them to revert back to reason. It's all good bud. Common sense is a commodity to be cherished. I'm not against you as it were, it's just civil debate which is rather rare too.
 

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FWIW = For what it's worth.
Bud, I'm over 50 now and know that :ROFLMAO:. But I agree with you, once folks have shit stuffed in their head it's harder these days for them to revert back to reason. It's all good bud. Common sense is a commodity to be cherished. I'm not against you as it were, it's just civil debate which is rather rare too.
I'm not a aged as you but I'm not a pup either, just had my 39th yesterday. As for the common sense and reason it seems to go out the window when vaginas are involved. :)
 
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