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maybe this will be controversial to some: but if you erase the part of her identity where Jill is a virgin, or better yet have her dating history actually include Tybalt and the reality they she had slept with him at least once, she would instantly lose like 60% of her "fans".

People dont even like to believe/imagine that Bella ever had sex with her husband or that Sage had sex with Chad, so the Jill fans arent alone in that regard but i do think they are the most hypersensitive about it and the most "obsessed" for lack of a better word that she is "unspoiled" by other men
If DPC live with a trauma of losing money, imagine screwing a fandom that literally finances this game

He will not do anything with Jill
 

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maybe this will be controversial to some: but if you erase the part of her identity where Jill is a virgin, or better yet have her dating history actually include Tybalt and the reality they she had slept with him at least once, she would instantly lose like 60% of her "fans".

People dont even like to believe/imagine that Bella ever had sex with her husband or that Sage had sex with Chad, so the Jill fans arent alone in that regard but i do think they are the most hypersensitive about it and the most "obsessed" for lack of a better word that she is "unspoiled" by other men
People like this are just fucking weird.
People whom DPC is careful not to wake up from their childhood dream. God forbid they should demagnetise their credit card for the shock.

If we eventually find out that Tybalt is not her natural child either, Jade too will fall under potential virgin...

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maybe this will be controversial to some: but if you erase the part of her identity where Jill is a virgin, or better yet have her dating history actually include Tybalt and the reality they she had slept with him at least once, she would instantly lose like 60% of her "fans".
You mean Rusty, right? That would actually make sense, if she dated with him, and all, but ended up badly, and Jill now more cautious with her dating. Because of previous experiences. and Yet She can't help it, but to Fall for a "Bad Boy MC ".

May be she would not be the patreon virgins ultimate fantasy, But She would be Definitely a Better Character. for a Chick MC there would be still Bella and Maya who are make more sense on that path.
Jill is a missed opunitiy in so many way. and now we even have permanent affinity its not even have chance, to see Jill develop in to a Rich Qeen B, wiht a bad boy MC on her side.
even though that in the end she admitted She found it Funny, Tybalt humiliation.
But there are people who are still hopeful for a Josy, Maya solo route, So may be, Jill will regret, breaking up with MC. Still, it's hard to make a meaningful, second "first time " sex with her. Thats why she shoould nevere been a virgin in the first place.
 
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People whom DPC is careful not to wake up from their childhood dream. God forbid they should demagnetise their credit card for the shock.

If we eventually find out that Tybalt is not her natural child either, Jade too will fall under potential virgin...

Avn... The a stands for porn
I think that pretty much true already. Tybalt, was bitching about how he come from and raised to where he is now. So, I guess, He is like Sage, and came from an orphanage or something.
But while Sage grown to be a Decent Human, Tybalt ended up as an arrogant prick, who think he he rose by his own, and earned his entitlement. etc etc
 
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I'm not saying he should forget about his sister for the sake of the MC or the DIKs, but I have to take his priorities into account. Long story short - I don't trust the guy. I even have a vague picture of how his loyalty to Maya could directly contradict my MC's interests, but I guess that's another story;
Interesting. I could definitely se a heavily invested DIK MC downranking Derek. However, and this might be counterintuitive, but i think a Chick/Neutral MC that choses to be with Josy after having been with the throuple, will probably loose his friendship with Derek. If you severely hurt his sister, Derek is probably no longer in your camp. That said, I think Derek will take a bullet for the MC, he also helped immensely in coordinating the restoration of the Mansion, and has helped the MC at every given opportunity in the game, so in my book he is a 100% trustworthy.

In regards to Jacob and Jam-Jam, yeah they're softies, but also massive bros at the same time. Jacob giving you a lap dance, being grateful for you getting rid of the Alphas at the HOTs party. Let's not forgot how Jam-Jam is there cheering every time they sing the walk of shame song. He has a certain charm, also these moments made me chuckle:
 

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People like this are just fucking weird.
Agreed, very fucking weird. The only people I've ever met like this in my life either viewed it as some predatory conquest where they'd overcome some magical challenge, or they're just so shit they don't like the girls having anybody else to compare them against. Everybody worth their salt knows Snow White was bangin' those dwarves. The prince don't care.
You mean Rusty, right? That would actually make sense, if she dated with him, and all, but ended up badly, and Jill now more cautious with her dating. Because of previous experiences. and Yet She can't help it, but to Fall for a "Bad Boy MC ".
This would make me respect the character more, certainly. I still don't like her, but I'd respect her. Especially if she lied about being a virgin. You know, "technicalities". Maybe the other person only got her ass or something, we don't know. Or she tried to blow him and things went a little bad and she freaked out and didn't touch one again for some time.
I think that pretty much true already. Tybalt, was bitching about how he come from and raised to where he is now. So, I guess, He is like Sage, and came from an orphanage or something.
I think, based on the hair at least, Jade is Tyb's mother, but if that were the case I wouldn't have expect her to throw his picture at Burke, so not certain, but it would make sense to me.

Burke had the money. Jade has the actual talent and smarts, she didn't "buy her degrees", she earned them, and since Burke didn't do the pre-nup, that's why he wants to avoid a divorce, because she'll have all that talent and then a good chunk of his previous funds as well. Or worse, it would cause an audit of those funds, and a lot of eyebrows would be raised at the major chunks of his funds missing that were allocated to 'charitable college scholarships'.
 

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People like this are just fucking weird.
This idealization of "the perfect woman" (a.k.a virgin) is a common thing between people, especially conservatives people. And believe or not, more and more i perceive that a lot of the users in this site, who are playing these type of games, are conservative people in regards of how the LIs in VNs should be and behave.
 

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However, and this might be counterintuitive, but i think a Chick/Neutral MC that choses to be with Josy after having been with the throuple, will probably loose his friendship with Derek. If you severely hurt his sister, Derek is probably no longer in your camp.
Yep, that's basically what I was trying to say. Like if there was a certain situation where Derek would have to choose between helping Maya and, say, not hurting Quinn he wouldn't pause to think even for a second. Just like my MC wouldn't hesitate with his decision, it's just that he'd pick a different option. Thus a potential conflict.

In regards to Jacob and Jam-Jam, yeah they're softies, but also massive bros at the same time.
They are bros for sure. I don't have anything against them, they're just not exactly the type of crowd I'd usually hang out with. Especially when there are people like Rusty, John Boy, Leon, and even Tommy save for the drugs part.
 
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maybe this will be controversial to some: but if you erase the part of her identity where Jill is a virgin, or better yet have her dating history actually include Tybalt and the reality they she had slept with him at least once, she would instantly lose like 60% of her "fans".

People dont even like to believe/imagine that Bella ever had sex with her husband or that Sage had sex with Chad, so the Jill fans arent alone in that regard but i do think they are the most hypersensitive about it and the most "obsessed" for lack of a better word that she is "unspoiled" by other men
Yes, it is naive to believe that the girls in the game did not have sex except for the MC.
Josie has 100% experience with guys, she is not a virgin.
Maya only had experience with girls.
Bella has been married for a long time and it is absolutely naive to believe that she and her Husband did not have sex.
Sage has a good sexual experience, besides, she has a very high libido and I very much doubt that before the MC she did not cheat on Chad. Because he didn't satisfy her in bed.
Jill quite possibly had some "games" with Bella.
Riona, Camilla, Quinn, Sarah, Mel, Lily... no comments. Everything is clear here.

This idealization of "the perfect woman" (a.k.a virgin) is a common thing between people, especially conservatives people. And believe or not, more and more i perceive that a lot of the users in this site, who are playing these type of games, are conservative people in regards of how the LIs in VNs should be and behave.
God, it's good that I have a normal, moderate views on life and do not start a drama because the girls had sex with someone before me. It's pretty hypocritical and ironic, don't you think? People of conservative views play a porn game, which is a sin of lust and depravity.
 

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If DPC live with a trauma of losing money, imagine screwing a fandom that literally finances this game

He will not do anything with Jill
with Jill?!?!? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

with every girl!!!

Zoey, the rebel because she has blue hair, goes out to conquer the west and meets two boys, one officially gay who is an inspiration for her to resume her studies, and one who has yet to come out to whom even her boobs in his face have no effect.

So much is the austerity of fantastic San Diego that the girl is seized with nostalgia for the only cock she can now remember (assuming it is not the only one)...

because let's be clear: that Zoey had had a boyfriend in San Diego is just a misunderstanding!!!!!(y)(y)(y)(y)

but it's the players who are naive. it's not like it's the story of the game that does everything it can to wallow them in this sense of security...
 

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You mean Rusty, right? That would actually make sense, if she dated with him, and all, but ended up badly, and Jill now more cautious with her dating. Because of previous experiences. and Yet She can't help it, but to Fall for a "Bad Boy MC ".

May be she would not be the patreon virgins ultimate fantasy, But She would be Definitely a Better Character. for a Chick MC there would be still Bella and Maya who are make more sense on that path.
Jill is a missed opunitiy in so many way. and now we even have permanent affinity its not even have chance, to see Jill develop in to a Rich Qeen B, wiht a bad boy MC on her side.
even though that in the end she admitted She found it Funny, Tybalt humiliation.
But there are people who are still hopeful for a Josy, Maya solo route, So may be, Jill will regret, breaking up with MC. Still, it's hard to make a meaningful, second "first time " sex with her. Thats why she shoould nevere been a virgin in the first place.
no i did mean Tybalt. i think in another timeline DPC would have made this game where she had tried the dating scene multiple times already. she would have been with Tybalt just due to their proximity, her polite attitude, and his unrelenting thirst for her and she would have probably given in and gone out with him and either be pressured into sex with him (slowly but surely) or maybe even give him some pity sex and then dump him. she would have also had her time with Rusty and it would have also been another bad experience for her. and all this comes together with Jill deciding to just wait for Mr Right until the MC shows up.

but then you realize how she then is waaaaay too similar to Bella and her "saving herself" only for MC for convenient reasons even though she is in the prime of her life and should be living it to the fullest lol

but i do agree that in many ways Jill seems like wasted potential from a story growth perspective. im quite certain DPC added her last minute to appeal to a certain demographic that isnt shy about donations :BootyTime:
 
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Tybalt, was bitching about how he come from and raised to where he is now. So, I guess, He is like Sage, and came from an orphanage or something.
Yeah otherwise his words don’t really make sense, unless they were slightly “poorer” in his younger years i.e. his delusional comments about Bella’s neighborhood. Because Tybalt does look a fair bit like Jade imo, to the point that I can’t decide wether or not he’s actually her biological son or not:unsure:.
 

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I think that pretty much true already. Tybalt, was bitching about how he come from and raised to where he is now. So, I guess, He is like Sage, and came from an orphanage or something.
But while Sage grown to be a Decent Human, Tybalt ended up as an arrogant prick, who think he he rose by his own, and earned his entitlement. etc etc
his words are very generic

for Tybalt also Bella comes from nowhere, if Jade had been a single mother or otherwise of humble beginnings that spoiled Tybalt would remember his childhood as a nightmare
 
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with Jill?!?!? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

with every girl!!!

Zoey, the rebel because she has blue hair, goes out to conquer the west and meets two boys, one officially gay who is an inspiration for her to resume her studies, and one who has yet to come out to whom even her boobs in his face have no effect.

So much is the austerity of fantastic San Diego that the girl is seized with nostalgia for the only cock she can now remember (assuming it is not the only one)...

because let's be clear: that Zoey had had a boyfriend in San Diego is just a misunderstanding!!!!!(y)(y)(y)(y)

but it's the players who are naive. it's not like it's the story of the game that does everything it can to wallow them in this sense of security...
Yes, I know the psychological portrait of girls like Zoey in reality. In the real world, she would fuck at least five partners in a year in San Diego. But most likely ten. She is a rebel, she does not care about the moral principles of society, sex is just pleasure.
 
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The only sex without Fuckface that's even hinted at are Arieth (seen in dorms and with Dawe, pic with Jacob and Derek and hinted with everyone else), Heather (post sex in Tommy's room) and of course Carolyn (in the threesome).
Also Ashley, Wendy etc. with Derek. John Boy and Elaina, Jamie and Danielle. Tania with Tommy. Rusty and Tommy with Rio, Rusty with Ida (or whatever chewing gum chick is called). It’s left in the dark wether or not Tommy and Quinn fucked or not, but I sorta got the sense that they have at some point? You can also help Jacob hook up at one point.

Maya and Josy have also slept together before and after the MC.

But yeah Rio, Camilla have for sure been screwing around to the max.
 

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but then you realize how she then is waaaaay too similar to Bella and her "saving herself" only for MC for convenient reasons even though she is in the prime of her life and should be living it to the fullest lol
To be fair, Jill isn't saving herself for the MC specifically, since she can reject him, too; much to chagrin of some people /s
 

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Yes, I know the psychological portrait of girls like Zoey in reality. In the real world, she would fuck at least five partners in a year in San Diego. But most likely ten. She is a rebel, she does not care about the moral principles of society, sex is just pleasure.
it's not so clear to me which girl Zoey is

seems to me to be a girl with major socialization problems, in high school she needs to find someone far worse off than she is in order not to spend her free time in complete solitude (both have virtually no other friends)

she is not a party girl (which doesn't exactly make her a HOTs)

even in San Diego Emma drags her, otherwise she would still be wearing the teetotaler bracelet in the hostel

the fact that she's a rebel (in what? aside from the hair I mean) doesn't make her compulsorily a man-eater, hard to get laid if you don't even talk to other people...
 
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