treechild1

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In my case, I kept the Maya/Josy event choices essentially even, so the code to determine which scene I got in Ep 11 falls back to which has more relative relationship points. I'm pretty sure I got most, if not all, I can get on my particular path for both Maya and Josy, and I definitely had a higher proportion of Maya points compared to Josy for the calculation. So it seems to me that if you've been spending time evenly, it might be set up to slightly favor Maya.

As for forcing this MJ drama here, that annoyed me because I'd very intentionally been making a point of paying attention to both Maya and Josy, and supporting their relationship with each other. The last time a check came up for if I was treating them evenly, I passed without issue. So not even having the option in this Chapter irked me quite a bit because it essentially forced my MC to behave "out of character" for how I'd played him so far.

I am, however, hesitantly giving DPC the benefit of the doubt for now and guessing the drama was introduced because:
  1. Chapter 11 is the penultimate episode of this Season, and if you successfully got the contracts last episode there otherwise wouldn't be much drama in the MJ relationship to "amp up the drama" and resolve next chapter.
  2. I've suspected that a possible throuple breakup could be coming soon if you make poor decisions and treat them unevenly. Even if it's not forced and you successfully save the relationship, using some of the same story elements, renders, and script in this Chapter is "efficient" to include as "content" for both possible outcomes.
  3. If it is possible to keep the throuple, including some brief drama that you successfully resolve essentially "shows" the player the narrative "bullet" you dodged. If things stayed happy full-time, people that made good choices might not really realize they resolved some potential drama and some people that like that type of drama/tension might find the path "boring".
Now, I started BaDIK before I even heard of Acting Lessons. Needless to say, I've been a bit nervous since learning how the throuple was treated in there since I tend to prefer poly paths when given the option, but I hope DPC doesn't perform a repeat. I'm hesitantly optimistic because the Maya/Josy deep discussion they have near the end of Bella's party on a "healthy" MJ throuple path is actually a good example of the types of difficult, but necessary, discussions needed to keep relationships healthy and does actually start resolving some the issues in their own relationship. And the existence of some earlier MJ checks having a possible "balanced" outcome does suggest one might be possible long-term.

However, if there's literally no possible way to save the MJ throuple regardless of what you choose, let's say I'm going to be very, very disappointed and probably never play a game by DPC again. One unavoidable "bad end" for a poly relationship might be a choice you can write off as a "narrative decision". Two times is a trend that tells me DPC is just biased against polyamory. I have very little tolerance for such narrow-mindedness, if it turns out to be the case here.
I’ve pretty much concluded that this is going to be exactly like Acting Lessons. There is/will be one general overall story. We choose who we want to have with us on the journey, who we love, who we help, who we save, who we discard…but those choices become increasingly limiting and frustrating. It won’t really matter. There will be 1 overall plot line (for better or worse). Acting Lessons boasts 22 endings. It’s just variations of each other with a handful of different epilogues. It basically is who is still with you and how strong bonds or relationships with the various characters are. The rest of the plot is out of your hands. I’m afraid this is going to be the same. Enjoy whatever interactions with what characters you can. The plot is going to go where DPC wants though, not what we might want. If you’re lucky, your favorite characters will be there with you at the end of the school year. Enjoy the red, blue, green endings… our choices don’t really matter much. :coffee:
 

ChipLecsap

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*sigh* yes and it doesn't make any difference for characters who are not aware of this.
but they are, the characters the story the narative treat Zoey very specifically as MC's EX-girlfriends. Sage, know it, Josy/Maya know it, Jill know it, ( I dont play Bella , so , I guess ) , the Diks Know it.

the Narrative of the game is that Zoey is MC EX. Josy was never MC's Ex, and you cant ever makerher to be MC's EX . and the narrative the story never treat any of the girl you dated/fucked as an EX girlfriend of MC, only Zoey.

this is so tiresome man, you actively refuse to accept the Reality. lets finish it
 

ChipLecsap

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She doesn't hate it,she's just unsure about her feelings
gentle sex is the best with her,
you see her trembling love for you,her hopeful look,
her true feelings coming to the surface for you.

She has to deal with all of this,
she never had anyone to protect her,
she always had to stand up for herself,
she never had anyone who really loved her.
When she has processed all this,she will know that this is true love !!
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yeah, yeah, okay I'm happy for you. :):)
This was not my deal with Lily, so she can fuck off too. after this shit :whistle::LOL:
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ffive

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the Narrative of the game is that Zoey is MC EX. Josy was never MC's Ex, and you cant ever makerher to be MC's EX . and the narrative the story never treat any of the girl you dated/fucked as an EX girlfriend of MC, only Zoey.
Yeah and that's the actual point: that the way the narrative handles it is broken bullshit, because characters who meet the same conditions (in this case, "a girl MC has fucked in the past and now maintains she's just a friend") should be getting the same treatment. Instead of just one of them getting singled out.
 

ChipLecsap

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Yeah and that's the actual point: that the way the narrative handles it is broken bullshit, because characters who meet the same conditions (in this case, "a girl MC has fucked in the past and now maintains she's just a friend") should be getting the same treatment. Instead of just one of them getting singled out.
Oh that is a different subject, "how it should be is", is an entirely different topic of conversation.

it is it in this way , so Fuck off Zoey, back to San-diego, please. :ROFLMAO:
 
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I absolutely agree that the game takes too goddamn long to make.

I realize some of that is because of how complex it is—how many alternate timelines is DPC juggling by now?—and that’s legitimate; I have no beef about that; that’s a feature not a bug. I’ve played too many games where your “choices” are bullshit, with no consequences whether you say the nice thing or the rude thing, and you’re forced to fuck every girl the developer throws at you. DPC has fully embraced alternate paths, and that’s the only reason I’ll play this game dozens of times, whereas other games only need one runthrough—assuming I don’t quit first from frustration or boredom.

But some of that is because of three things that only DPC gives a shit about: detailed, high-quality renders, including 60fps video; minigames; and, increasingly, recording his own music for the game. (Though I get why he’s recording his own music—it’s hard to find quality community-commons stuff out there, and artists who don’t mind that their stuff is being used for a porn game.) This shit takes a lot of time! But some of you love the minigames, so that part’s your fault.

Also absolutely agree. I haven’t played ep 11 yet, but the spoilers make it clear Maya’s student-loan deal was resolved pretty damn quickly—whether Tremolo stole the documents or not. Pretty much every plot thread that we’ve been fretting over for years can be wrapped up just as easily. But isn’t that typically the case with mysteries?—they’re all annoyingly simple once they’re solved, and all fan speculation regularly blows it way out of proportion. These mysteries got stretched out over years now, so we falsely suspected it was something proportionally huge and dark… and no they’re not; none of em are. Shit, the game’s about college kids who think everything’s a big deal.

I haven’t. Zoey got added to the game in a big way—and just after Tremolo picked a girl! I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s another one coming. Probably Yoga Girl. My wife thinks she’s gonna be like the Mother in How I Met Your Mother—she’s a big mystery for most of the show, Ted falls for her in the very last episode, and there’s your happy ending… till the producers fucked it up and killed her off, which I’m still annoyed at. Maybe she’s the potential happy ending in case Tremolo fucks it up with the other girls; maybe he’s destined to fuck it up, one way or another, with every last one of them. Don’t know yet! That should piss everyone off. But hey, it’s DPC’s game to fuck up… once he completes it in 2035 or so.
About things being solved pretty quickly and the mystery, the problem is, there is no "wow" factor. The dinner to solve maya's problem, when we faced the cliffranger everyone was hoping for something big to come out of that encounter and what happened? Nothing happened. Everyone spent 1 year creating theories, when it came out, there was nothing to talk about.
And the drama with Maya's problem got dragged out for too long when the problem was never that big. It was something that could be solved pretty quickly with very little information, specially when you have internet.

But many people was brought into this when there wasn't the need for all that in the first place. And many people who had no interest in that got stuck in it. I wonder people who never used the services of the girls, and are stuck on the chick path, did any of them got dragged into QUinn's stuff? I think no, right? But why many of us got stuck with Maya's situation?

I think, in writing, the problem and the fix they need to be both at the same lvl. You can not make a big deal about something then say, ok got the contract, it is all done. Reason why, when all this thing started I was one of the people who said it wasn't that big of a deal and it was something that could be fixed pretty simple, but look how many things happened and how many people got involved. She has a brother who is so smart and knowleadgeable and he couldn't figure anything out.

Then there is Quinn's situation, Riona, etc. He can even make it a big deal, but when he decides to skip someone's story nowadays you have to wait 3 years since the last time you had some progression. That goes for Riona. Riona from ep 10 to ep 12, will take 3 years to have some progression.

THe minigames does he needs to put all of these in every update? can't he make it 1 episode with mini games and another story only? Everytime he adds more. now there is a puzzle box, besides math test and science lab. Party planning, browler, free roams. in the future will come a fight competition, for those who decided to participate, eventually.

Also he is always adding new characters. I am not talking only Zoey. We had the vixens added recently, Nora aswell and now there is the new girl from science lab/Halloween party. The vixens had more progression in a short time than Sally had since the start of the game. And with this, more branches and decisions will be created, a new line in the timeline of the game is created and if he wants to deal with everything he adds everytime, we will see less of what really matters.

I understand that this game has higher quality when compared to any other and people feel like they will offend other players if they criticize it when not even the developer takes criticism well. I not only got kicked in patreon, as I also had a review mine deleted from steam and the reason he gave was that I was "spoiling", when I know well that it was for a different reason.
Anyway, lets see at this pace how many more years it will take to progress the stories, specially when minigames are being increased and taking more space in the overall time length gameplay of every update.

For me at least, in a personal opinion, it has become less interesting with every update. Specially like you said, it will probably only be completed in 10 years from now. lol.
 

MiltonPowers

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She doesn't hate it,she's just unsure about her feelings
gentle sex is the best with her,
you see her trembling love for you,her hopeful look,
her true feelings coming to the surface for you.

She has to deal with all of this,
she never had anyone to protect her,
she always had to stand up for herself,
she never had anyone who really loved her.
When she has processed all this,she will know that this is true love !!
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Don't worry Sop, those idiots will never understand Lily. :)
We know what's going on behind those beautiful eyes :love:
And they can just waste their time on other girls.:(
 

bobandy21

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Does anyone have links to a good save file? I lost all mine somehow transferring pcs and the only save files ive found have failing classes and didnt spend time to get all brawler upgrades, spend money wisely, etc. Would really appreciate it
 

pinuz1

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Don't worry Sop, those idiots will never understand Lily. :)
We know what's going on behind those beautiful eyes :love:
And they can just waste their time on other girls.:(
Lily was such a treat this update, also she pretty much got 2 scenes :love:, the gentle sex with her was peak.
Also I don't understand how someone would prefer to waste their time with the other girls when lily exists ;).
 
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