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- Nov 15, 2020
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I know, but it's just I saw way more different people speak highly of her after release of ep 11 than in the 2 months up to the release of that episode.
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Not that it has anything to do with her getting more scenes this time around.
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And because of that we saw a bit more of her personality (a personality that imo is very attractive).
- May 9, 2024
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Yeah, Spock was into her way before it was co- Bella's Former Sorority! Is Spock Becky?!!
- Nov 15, 2020
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I may not like Spock that much, but even I will never call him that piece of trash Becky
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MP Sage doesn't care about Zoey
She doesn't see Zoey as an ex-best friend, but an ex-lover, which to MC isn't the case, even if he has described her as such. She's simply scared of her having another cheating-boyfriend experience.
To the MC, Zoey was his best and only friend, and a lover. But not to Zoey. Zoey never saw it as a real relationship, even if the MC felt that way.
Sage didn't know he felt like this, because he didn't describe it to her at the time after meeting Neil.
"I don't want you to worry about me and Zoey. We're just talking... In fact, it's been hard to do so since she returned."
And then the conversation later goes to asking for Chad's contact info and the DIK's conflict. And that's that. Conflict resolved. Zoey is a non-issue between Sage and the MC.
That's just Sage's general opinion on ex's or what have you, as we hear with Jill's nail talk. Zoey could've gotten different advice and not confessed, or just been an old friend saying hi again. But because she's such a wrecking ball to BAD and hence the title "Paradigm Shift". (Which I hope is just a narrative nod, and not DPK changing the entire game to match a Zoey path.)
And if she kept talking to the MC, then the issue would have been resolved. Luckily that happens over the phone later.
After the rejection (again, auto or chosen), not only has he had a lot of time to think, the MC admits he's not in love with Zoey. He's so clear that he messaged her about how she's feeling, because he's completely resolved on the issue, and concerned about her as a friend.
There's no reason to bring any of this up again to Sage. Or anyone for that matter.
This whole idea of whether the MC should tell Sage about Zoey confessing is irrelevant nonsense some of you guys are hung up on for some reason. There is no conflict to or with Sage. There is no conflict with the MC. There is no emotional hang up. There is no worry or doubt or guilt or...anything. There is no mystery. No cause. There is no "oh, should I tell Sage or no? I wonder what I should do? Sage likes honesty! I should tell her everything about every female I meet who likes me!"
If you want to contemplate something along those lines, think what a DIK MC would do with the Jade reveal or how. But even that is "so what?" Because DIK MC wouldn't care, and nor should he as he didn't do anything wrong, but the narrative wants to paint it as such that he's on a guilt trip. You could argue that DIK MC isn't necessary, or is slowly becoming Neutral with Sage, etc. But that at least has a cause for concern in the narrative.
In your "threat" idea, there's no reason to embarrass Zoey as she is the victim, and Sage is the victor. And I can't see the MC as being petty for the sake of telling Sage "the truth" when it doesn't matter.
If DPC brings this up, he's a melodramatic hack. Look at how this was resolved with the Bella/Jill scenario. If Bella was chosen, Jill has what, one talk? And then Jill's fine. (Seriously Jill?) With choosing Jill, Bella, literally closes the matter over the phone in the same rejection, and does absolutely nothing afterward.
I see what you're saying, and it's perhaps true in a 100 foot view of humans interacting. But no, Zoey isn't a threat. According to Sage, it's about her previous relationship with Chad.
She doesn't see Zoey as an ex-best friend, but an ex-lover, which to MC isn't the case, even if he has described her as such. She's simply scared of her having another cheating-boyfriend experience.
To the MC, Zoey was his best and only friend, and a lover. But not to Zoey. Zoey never saw it as a real relationship, even if the MC felt that way.
Sage didn't know he felt like this, because he didn't describe it to her at the time after meeting Neil.
"I don't want you to worry about me and Zoey. We're just talking... In fact, it's been hard to do so since she returned."
And then the conversation later goes to asking for Chad's contact info and the DIK's conflict. And that's that. Conflict resolved. Zoey is a non-issue between Sage and the MC.
No Zoey isn't a threat in the way you've described one. Sage simply doesn't know or trust Zoey. If the MC gives into Zoey's advances (if there are any), Sage would just break it off. Since she trusts the MC, it doesn't matter how many relationships she's had before. In regards to her past, it's about her being worried since Chad cheated on her, and she doesn't want to go through that again.
Again, Zoey was never a threat. How can Sage be threatened by some girl she's never really met? (And who the heck can compete with Sage? Especially since she knows how MC feels about Zoey.) This is no different than the fear of the unknown, and the story that it's an ex. The only conflict in Sage's head is Sage's feelings about being cheated on. She simply didn't understand Zoey or at least how the MC thought of Zoey. The same way she didn't understand the MC viz a vis Chad. So in a sense, in reality, she actually wasn't 100% sure about the MC, even though she said she trusts the MC, and not Zoey. *Yay women logic.* She doesn't know and doesn't care about Zoey.
That's just Sage's general opinion on ex's or what have you, as we hear with Jill's nail talk. Zoey could've gotten different advice and not confessed, or just been an old friend saying hi again. But because she's such a wrecking ball to BAD and hence the title "Paradigm Shift". (Which I hope is just a narrative nod, and not DPK changing the entire game to match a Zoey path.)
And if she kept talking to the MC, then the issue would have been resolved. Luckily that happens over the phone later.
He's had plenty of time. Regardless, he's absolved.
After the rejection (again, auto or chosen), not only has he had a lot of time to think, the MC admits he's not in love with Zoey. He's so clear that he messaged her about how she's feeling, because he's completely resolved on the issue, and concerned about her as a friend.
There's no reason to bring any of this up again to Sage. Or anyone for that matter.
This whole idea of whether the MC should tell Sage about Zoey confessing is irrelevant nonsense some of you guys are hung up on for some reason. There is no conflict to or with Sage. There is no conflict with the MC. There is no emotional hang up. There is no worry or doubt or guilt or...anything. There is no mystery. No cause. There is no "oh, should I tell Sage or no? I wonder what I should do? Sage likes honesty! I should tell her everything about every female I meet who likes me!"
If you want to contemplate something along those lines, think what a DIK MC would do with the Jade reveal or how. But even that is "so what?" Because DIK MC wouldn't care, and nor should he as he didn't do anything wrong, but the narrative wants to paint it as such that he's on a guilt trip. You could argue that DIK MC isn't necessary, or is slowly becoming Neutral with Sage, etc. But that at least has a cause for concern in the narrative.
Why? Zoey's out of the picture. MC made his Sage choice in what, Episode 8: Crossroads? Zoey is no different than any girl who wants to make out with him, or get it on with the MC. The MC's response is always "Nope." Or "I'm with Sage. If you're into a threesome, let me pass that by my Other's Queen..."
He already chose Sage, and vice versa. Minus Jade, he can say ILY, and she can reply in kind. Zoey's friendship or relationship of any kind is irrelevant and has been resolved as per the phone call. The MC is also of the same mind, having rejected Zoey's love declaration.
In your "threat" idea, there's no reason to embarrass Zoey as she is the victim, and Sage is the victor. And I can't see the MC as being petty for the sake of telling Sage "the truth" when it doesn't matter.
If DPC brings this up, he's a melodramatic hack. Look at how this was resolved with the Bella/Jill scenario. If Bella was chosen, Jill has what, one talk? And then Jill's fine. (Seriously Jill?) With choosing Jill, Bella, literally closes the matter over the phone in the same rejection, and does absolutely nothing afterward.
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- Aug 9, 2017
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I did not enter this thread since the 7th March, I was able to play a few routes only in the last days. I haven't read many posts but here is my short review about EP 11:
1) Plot was fine but the rendering quality was really embarrassing, quality dropped too much. Clothes and body posing reached new lows, it was horrible and often unpleasant.
2) fuck these mini-games: English, maths, science. They really become a burden and waste of time.
3) fuck animations: I haven't seen a decent one and the non-lewd ones were pointless
4) no improvement at all in the sex scenes I've seen from Main Girls (Jill, Sage,Bella) and others. Very mechanical, boring, no eroticism, no interesting dialogues, just a sequence of positions like an annoying task DPC has to do while thinking about mini-games or weird animations. I've yet to play Maya/Josy path but the sex scenes I've seen so far are really crap in all the aspects.
14 months of development time, millions of Euros for THIS result? If he does not want to get help to improve the visual quality, he has to redefine his priorities. This is not the product of a hobby, this is the most financially successful VN ever, expectations should be higher than average, not lower.
1) Plot was fine but the rendering quality was really embarrassing, quality dropped too much. Clothes and body posing reached new lows, it was horrible and often unpleasant.
2) fuck these mini-games: English, maths, science. They really become a burden and waste of time.
3) fuck animations: I haven't seen a decent one and the non-lewd ones were pointless
4) no improvement at all in the sex scenes I've seen from Main Girls (Jill, Sage,Bella) and others. Very mechanical, boring, no eroticism, no interesting dialogues, just a sequence of positions like an annoying task DPC has to do while thinking about mini-games or weird animations. I've yet to play Maya/Josy path but the sex scenes I've seen so far are really crap in all the aspects.
14 months of development time, millions of Euros for THIS result? If he does not want to get help to improve the visual quality, he has to redefine his priorities. This is not the product of a hobby, this is the most financially successful VN ever, expectations should be higher than average, not lower.
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Geralt of Rivia is an amazing artist. https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-fan-art.29960/post-16585234
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I don't think we played the same game bro
Sage ILY scene and Lily Gentle completely void this, they're textbook erotic and have a ton of meaning to them and that's just 2, the quality has improved massively over the course of the game. The scenes are just getting better now that real connections and bonds are deepening
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You tagged wrong Geralt, this is Doppler
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Is it me or does it seem when you're not on say Sage's or Josy's route it seems like they're trying to meddle in MC's relationship like Josy telling Sage about MC dating Bella or Sage telling MC that Lilly is using him or when Jill tells Bella that it's against the rules to date a student which ok that argument has merit but it still comes off as meddling and Maya not so much directly meddles but you can tell that she's grown fonder of MC and is unsure of her relationship status with Josy seems like the green-eyed monster is running rampant throughout the MG's.
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All of this ignores Sage's personality. If Sage were like this she would have broken up with Chad the minute she found the panties in his gym bag. Instead she hung on to the idea of finding out who Chad's bitch was. Sage is not the type to just let go. The subject of Zoey is not over and done with.
I've seen that you have trouble understanding this and there really is no point in discussing this with you when you misunderstand the characters on such a fundamental level.
- Jul 8, 2024
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Let BC Spock have this time for now. It is sweet and enduring.It does seem like you've had some pent up, unrequited thirst for thirsty/yoga/Cindy girl for a long time. Well over a year... You doing okay there?
EP13....Yoga girl takes MC home to meet her parents..... on the Sage path, we already saw them walking into the restaurant while on the Sage dinner and movie date.
- Nov 15, 2020
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Yes, Jill wants them (especially MC) to test on STD's before fucking without a condom.
- Jul 8, 2024
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Thought for the day. At the beauty salon, Sage was completely on the right track with her opinion on formers staying "friends".
- Jul 8, 2024
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Too much activity at the DiKs Christmas party with other girls will mean the Sage ILY doesn't happen. Tried it with my Sage only (no other side influence) path.
- Feb 23, 2021
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that's why she was at the topless panty party with her boyfriend and four of his exes
The reason on why she didn't break up with Chad was not that Sage is possessive, or that she sees other people as a threat. Is that she doesn't want to abandon him. She doesn't want to let go that easily. That's why she wanted to find out who the "bitch" was. She needed something to be justified. Or at least that's what she told herself. Again, Sage is complicated and with a lot of fears despite her out-going and carefree personality.