Chillout1984

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Nah, they were a couple they simply never stated it outright.

They did all the things a couples does, shared all their time together, fucked and so on. Not stating the type of their relationship makes it imo closer to being a couple than to being a fwb relationship.

Im 100% convinced neither Zoey nor Tremolo would have been fine with the other one having any kind of sexual/romantic relations to other people during this time and so on.
They did not do one (at least imo and as far as we know) important thing to be a couple: going on dates.
 

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They did not do one (at least imo) important thing to be a couple: going on dates.
They did hang out together all the fucking time and did everything together, you dont have to call a date a date to be one

But maybe thats a "cultural" thing, i think the whole dating stages/rituals thing is more usual/normal in the usa where youre probably from and less in europe
 

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They did hang out together all the fucking time and did everything together, you dont have to call a date a date to be one
I don't believe we ever see them (or hear them talking about it) going to the movies and to the restaurants. They only hangout together either at house or in a park or something.
 

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I don't believe we ever see them (or hear them talking about it) going to the movies and to the restaurants. They only hangout together either at house or in a park or something.
I mean, it stand to reason that they visited a movie theater at least once during their youth and tremolo probably didnt went alone lol

but who knows, maybe he NEVER visited any movie theater :LOL:

Did you invited your gf to restaurants and stuff when you were 16/17/before you had a job?
 
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I mean, it stand to reason that they visited a movie theater at least once during their youth and tremolo probably didnt went alone lol

but who knows, maybe he NEVER visited any movie theater :LOL:

Did you invited your gf to restaurants and stuff when you were 16/17/before you had a job?
Yes I did. We went to the cinema often and we also went to a bit more "expensive" (aka just a tad more expensive than fastfood) restaurants regularly. That's what pocket money is for.
 

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Yes I did. We went to the cinema often and we also went to a bit more "expensive" (aka just a tad more expensive than fastfood) restaurants regularly. That's what pocket money is for.
Well i can tell you not everyone gets enough pocket money to visit - better than fastfood - restaurants. And Zoey and Tremolo surely did not got that kind of money considering their backgrounds.

Maybe your view on the whole thing is kinda screwed by your own experience.

Partying together, drinking together, sharing your times and fucking, these are the kinds of things young adults do when being a couple :p

Edit: Do you think Tremolo and/or Zoey would have been fine with the other one making out with other people during this time?
 

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1) Plot was fine but the rendering quality was really embarrassing, quality dropped too much. Clothes and body posing reached new lows, it was horrible and often unpleasant.
I was going to make a post talking about this but I was too lazy to do it at the time, and now I'm too lazy to go back and find all the renders that I thought looked like shit, but some renders actually took me aback when I played E11, there's some blatant instances of peoples skin clipping through their clothes, there's ugly grainy renders that look like they belong in E1-E2 (when DPC was using a 1080ti) etc.

What the actual fuck is DPC doing?
 

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Well i can tell you not everyone gets enough pocket money to visit - better than fastfood - restaurants. And Zoey and Tremolo surely did not got that kind of money considering their backgrounds.

Maybe your view on the whole thing is kinda screwed by your own experience.

Partying together, drinking together, sharing your times and fucking, these are the kinds of things young adults do when being a couple :p

Edit: Do you think Tremolo and/or Zoey would have been fine with the other one making out with other people during this time?
Before Zoey left sure, or at least Zoey would. We know earlier Tremolo felt love (or at least something like it) for Zoey. However how I interpret Zoey during the interlude, for her it was just lust, fun and friendship. Not love involved (other than the love you feel for just a friend) at all. That's also why I don't count it as a relationship before she left.
 

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Nah, they were a couple they simply never stated it outright.
this could be a thing. like Riona not realise their fun time in arcade look like actual date untill mc told her. they was young and stupid and thats why they could not realise it if nobody said it out loud
 

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this could be a thing. like Riona not realise their fun time in arcade look like actual date untill mc told her. they was young and stupid and thats why they could not realise it if nobody said it out loud
Looking at it that way, you could also say that MC and Quinn or MC and Jill are already a couple if you're on their route. Just going on dates doesn't make it a couple, just feeling out if becoming a couple is possible.
 

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I did not enter this thread since the 7th March, I was able to play a few routes only in the last days. I haven't read many posts but here is my short review about EP 11:

1) Plot was fine but the rendering quality was really embarrassing, quality dropped too much. Clothes and body posing reached new lows, it was horrible and often unpleasant.
2) fuck these mini-games: English, maths, science. They really become a burden and waste of time.
3) fuck animations: I haven't seen a decent one and the non-lewd ones were pointless
4) no improvement at all in the sex scenes I've seen from Main Girls (Jill, Sage,Bella) and others. Very mechanical, boring, no eroticism, no interesting dialogues, just a sequence of positions like an annoying task DPC has to do while thinking about mini-games or weird animations. I've yet to play Maya/Josy path but the sex scenes I've seen so far are really crap in all the aspects.

14 months of development time, millions of Euros for THIS result? If he does not want to get help to improve the visual quality, he has to redefine his priorities. This is not the product of a hobby, this is the most financially successful VN ever, expectations should be higher than average, not lower.
you are just salty because i had a speak with dpc and Rio is alive. no stupid funeral mini game. if it would had a little romance with Rio, this update would be 5/5
 
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They did hang out together all the fucking time and did everything together, you dont have to call a date a date to be one

But maybe thats a "cultural" thing, i think the whole dating stages/rituals thing is more usual/normal in the usa where youre probably from and less in europe
Dating is the evolution of courting, so its origins are actually European, though I completely agree that for two people who spend a lot of time together it's not really necessary.
For kids with no money formal "dating" would have been too expensive most likely.
I sense that MC probably considers not labelling any of the time he and Zoey spent together as dates was a mistake. Hence his eagerness to call the first alone time with Josy a date way back in episode one. ;)
 
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Before Zoey left sure, or at least Zoey would. We know earlier Tremolo felt love (or at least something like it) for Zoey. However how I interpret Zoey during the interlude, for her it was just lust, fun and friendship. Not love involved (other than the love you feel for just a friend) at all. That's also why I don't count it as a relationship before she left.
Well i think thats obviously wrong.

They both had feelings for each other but werent aware of it or to inexperienced/confused to really see it how it is.

Do you think Zoey did fall magically in love with him while being away? No, she just became aware of it. Thats the theme of the two, they were both too young/confused to be aware enough of their feelings.

And im pretty sure 99% of the readers here would consider Zoey doing stuff with another guy back than as cheating.

You drew comparisions to Jill or Quinn in another post but these are different. In quinn's case its outright stated by her that shes not looking for a relationship and very clear about it.

In Jill's case its the other way around and its the MC who states some non-commitment in the beginning of their dating (Jill accepting that is kinda unrealistic and just for avn reasons tho lol).

But you may realize its always at least somewhat mentioned what kind of relationship this is, same with Sage and Lily for example who are very adamant and specific that these are "only" fwb relationships at the points in time when it happened.

Something like that never happened with Zoey, they just didnt talked about it at all because they were two dumb teenagers
 

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Looking at it that way, you could also say that MC and Quinn or MC and Jill are already a couple if you're on their route. Just going on dates doesn't make it a couple, just feeling out if becoming a couple is possible.
true, I could say all that. my point was about how people who in that situation feel about it. they could view it as couple while feel no need to announce that, same way they could just thinking about this as "friends with benefits". do we really need argue about that? :)
 
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