VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[maxthruster]

The fact that she was beaten is a stupid plot point. The dealer simply beat up his runner, even though she confessed everything right away. Having beaten her, she obviously wouldn't be able to continue working for a while, and as a result, she'll lose the money she earned from the sale. And all this because Quinn was selling at a higher price. It's nonsense.

I've seen this thrown around a lot before, and while I generally agree that Riona getting kidnapped and beaten for Quinn's scheme and then just let go is a pretty stupid plot point, I don't think the actual events in question are all that far-fetched. Keep in mind that in a gang it is the distributor, not the dealer, who determines prices; Quinn and Vinny silently raising theirs for their own profit is an act of insubordination, and thus doing nothing about it makes Buddy look weak. Physical violence is a very common form of retaliation used to instill fear and respect. And Riona is clearly important, mechanically if not emotionally, to Quinn, so using her to lure Quinn in makes sense.

Where it breaks down, for me, is the aftermath. If the goal was to make an example to show what happens when you step outside, giving Quinn herself a beating would've been the move. After all, that's what he did with Vinny. It could be that he was held back by some sentimentality for Rox, but Buddy states repeatedly that he doesn't even want Quinn around and that Rox is the only reason he took her in, so that seems unlikely. More affection from him could've changed that narrative, giving a reasonable excuse for letting her off.

If the goal was to strike at Quinn personally by targeting her friend, trying to break her down inside, then why the fuck would you let her go? Keep her hostage until you're sure Quinn is obedient and dancing to your tune, no matter how reluctantly. Because if you don't have any remaining leverage over her, what's to stop her from, oh I don't know, dropping a dime and bringing a raid down on you?

Tl;dr the price issue is a legitimate concern for Buddy, even though plenty of people don't seem to grasp that, but the way they treated Riona was a weird middle ground that shouldn't have happened.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I was thinking about Riona a bit. She deserves her time to be happy and shine. So, I'm curious, if you aren't on Riona's
"path":
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Who would you like to see her possibly spend more time with and is there anybody you would ship her with?
Cammy could be good for her:
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I think Quiona has become too toxic at this point, sexy though:
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Maybe someone you never thought of like Heather (also not coming from a healthy relationship):
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One of the Dik bros? Who would you like to see Rio paired with (if anyone, besides the MC) for sex or a stronger relationship?

Camila. They really bonded during their Hell Week and became true friends.
Quinn is definitely the one Rio needs to cut out of her life. It's a manipulative and toxic friendship, abusive to an emotionally dependent girl who's not secure in herself.

 

[Darkwen]

I used to be Bella fan, but damn look at that sexy cute chick, the rope looks so good on her.
I fall in love with her, Bella and Sage.
they all my harem.
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Indeed a true Goddess of love and beauty
Alady Alady

 

[Bozeman75]

Yeah, she doesnt want it and tries to fight it but imo the lily rolling route is the most girlfriend-like route after sage and jill we have at this point. Somehow she even got more relationship development than the throuple despite lily trying to fight it becoming a relationship lmao

Its an awesome path and great to watch lilys walls crumble

Shes one of the best LI's too imo, shes very determined and set on her goals, she wants to work in healthcare and thats why shes doing the stripping. Compare her to Maya who is completly dependent on everyone lol, while Maya doesnt even comprehend how a loan works, Lily is managing her finances on her own and is set on her goal.

Sorry for the maya slander, i even like her but the comparision is so funny, all this maya drama is stuff lily just manages. Even more funny considering Lily is the fun-loving stripper while being a fully independent woman, meanwhile the feminist maya is barely fighting the dependency on her dad until the mc comes along to rescue her.

And i liked Lilys reasoning why she doesnt want a relationship with the mc or rather doesnt want to fall in love. She cant see herself being a stripper when being in love (even when her bf wouldnt mind it) which imo speaks for her too, she has principles.

Its gonna be fun to see how the path evoles, it will either be no relationship because she wants to focus on her future and needs the stripping to fund it (unlikely) or she will cave, take a student loan and stop stripping as she found the guy she wants to marry sooner than calculated lol (more likely imo)

tldr: yes you miss a lot

I love the Lily romance route as well.
She's definitely catching feelings.

The potential downside though is that could affect her job.
She needs the job for college and to prepare for her health care career.
That schooling costs a lot of money.

She tells the MC:

ly "I can only do the things I do {b}because{/b} I haven't fallen for someone."

I suspect she's talking about the VIP room customer sex. She makes it clear when talking to the MC about rolling that they each can still fuck others.
It doesn't feel like she would have a problem dating and stripping if it were just stripping.

So is she going to stop fucking the customers or stop stripping entirely?
Either option would cut down her income a lot.

We know the strippers don't have to fuck the customers - on Nicole's route Sandy mentions that Nicole hasn't been doing the customers for a long time and Sandy was surprised that she blew the MC.

So that would be my guess - she stops the VIP room activity but still strips to keep most of her income.

 

[HOBGTG]

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Indeed a true Goddess of love and beauty
Alady Alady

I think you are putting a curse on her. Making people hate her and all.

Good work, keep it up.

 

[Darkwen]

I think you are putting a curse on her. Making people hate her and all.

Good work, keep it up.

I think that more to do with some taste or not being able to handle greatness

 

[Vega101]

I love the Lily romance route as well.
She's definitely catching feelings.

The potential downside though is that could affect her job.
She needs the job for college and to prepare for her health care career.
That schooling costs a lot of money.

She tells the MC:

ly "I can only do the things I do {b}because{/b} I haven't fallen for someone."

I suspect she's talking about the VIP room customer sex. She makes it clear when talking to the MC about rolling that they each can still fuck others.
It doesn't feel like she would have a problem dating and stripping if it were just stripping.

So is she going to stop fucking the customers or stop stripping entirely?
Either option would cut down her income a lot.

We know the strippers don't have to fuck the customers - on Nicole's route Sandy mentions that Nicole hasn't been doing the customers for a long time and Sandy was surprised that she blew the MC.

So that would be my guess - she stops the VIP room activity but still strips to keep most of her income.

Lilly has never slept for money. Only striptease. Then one of the DIK would have bought her, but Lilly hasn't slept with any of the DIK brothers. Even at the Thanksgiving party, where the scene on the pier occurs, they talk about her earnings. She says she makes a lot even in one day and doesn't specify that they pay even more for sex, because she doesn't do that. She's not some stupid slut.

There is no direct proof but there is a ton of foreshadowing, though before I get to the list I must clarify that I believe Bella is unaware of this connection. She doesn't know that the friend who ran away with a guy 20 years ago is the same woman who died giving birth to MC 19 years ago. The revelation is going to be a massive shock to Bella. But now the list:

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I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some, but I've started to wonder if I could find a moment of foreshadowing in every episode.

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It's more like Neil and Bella knew each other before, not Linnet. The stereotypical shared song is reminiscent of first love. All of this seems more like DPC is casting Bella as a mother figure.

You think these friends would care for Linnet's son, but they didn't even find out the cause of their friend's death? Like she died after giving birth, leaving behind a child. That's only possible if Neil lied about the child dying.

Let's say Linnet and Bella were friends. So what? That doesn't contribute to the plot. It doesn't introduce Tremolo to his grandfather.
There was some large painting in Bella's office that she put away somewhere. Maybe it's now hanging in a locked room.
It's wide enough for four or five friends to share, but who the hell hangs a big photo on the wall?
Another weird thing is the Bella family finances. During Tybalt's presentation, Jill points out that Bella doesn't live in a poor neighborhood. She even has a swimming pool at home. Her parents may have been wealthy, but now, as a teacher and librarian, she doesn't have the savings to open her own bookstore.

 

[Bozeman75]

Lilly has never slept for money. Only striptease. Then one of the DIK would have bought her, but Lilly hasn't slept with any of the DIK brothers. Even at the Thanksgiving party, where the scene on the pier occurs, they talk about her earnings. She says she makes a lot even in one day and doesn't specify that they pay even more for sex, because she doesn't do that. She's not some stupid slut.

Where does the game show this?

We know the VIP room customers get sex from the strippers.

The game specifically tells us on the Nicole route that Nicole no longer does that.
But nothing on the Lily route says that.

All we know is that the DIKs haven't had sex with lily. But she could just have refused VIP sex with them because she knows them.

I feel like people don't want to think that Lily is fucking customers in the VIP room, but while the game tells us that Nicole doesn't do that it says nothing about Lily.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer it if the game clarifies that at some point and says she only strips.

 

[Vega101]

I was thinking about Riona a bit. She deserves her time to be happy and shine. So, I'm curious, if you aren't on Riona's
"path":
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Who would you like to see her possibly spend more time with and is there anybody you would ship her with?
Cammy could be good for her:
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I think Quiona has become too toxic at this point, sexy though:
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Maybe someone you never thought of like Heather (also not coming from a healthy relationship):
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One of the Dik bros? Who would you like to see Rio paired with (if anyone, besides the MC) for sex or a stronger relationship?

Only Tremolo is suitable for her. These girls aren't lesbians. The Dicks don't treat Riona in a way that would make her want a relationship with them.

Anyone's got a save file for the beginning of Episode 11 for a route in which Sage tells Tremolo that she loves him ? I played the Update when it came out and i found out weeks later that if you're 100% Sage only then she tells Tremolo that she loves him but i didn't feel like starting a new playthrough just for that, and so here i am 8 months later and i just did 2 Sage only playthroughs back to back in the last few days and i still can't get that goddamn scene to trigger.

This path is worth following from start to finish. And only for Chick, and starting dating at the HOTs party.

I barely ever read the forums because frankly it's a waste of time talking/arguing about porn games. The point of these games are to jerk off, nothing else. But I had just came across that long post of his, read 20 seconds of it and understood that this is big time loser behavior. I don't know why you even acknowledge him, he's just trying to himself look smart on a porn game website.

People don't come here for porn games. Personally, I'm here just to read Darkween's Aledy posts and watch Grarg destroy everyone with math facts. I'm a fan their.

 

[DrAddy]

I think you are putting a curse on her. Making people hate her and all.

Good work, keep it up.

I don't think so.
Darkwen is just showing his affection for Josy, there's nothing wrong with that.
Josy is hot, and some people show their affection more than others.

 

[DaimonFey]

Where it breaks down, for me, is the aftermath. If the goal was to make an example to show what happens when you step outside, giving Quinn herself a beating would've been the move. After all, that's what he did with Vinny. It could be that he was held back by some sentimentality for Rox, but Buddy states repeatedly that he doesn't even want Quinn around and that Rox is the only reason he took her in, so that seems unlikely. More affection from him could've changed that narrative, giving a reasonable excuse for letting her off.

If the goal was to strike at Quinn personally by targeting her friend, trying to break her down inside, then why the fuck would you let her go? Keep her hostage until you're sure Quinn is obedient and dancing to your tune, no matter how reluctantly. Because if you don't have any remaining leverage over her, what's to stop her from, oh I don't know, dropping a dime and bringing a raid down on you?

Tl;dr the price issue is a legitimate concern for Buddy, even though plenty of people don't seem to grasp that, but the way they treated Riona was a weird middle ground that shouldn't have happened.

Perhaps there are other friends of Rox who are still around? It is possible that they told Buddy to take care of Quinn because they are incapable of doing so for various reason. If this is the case, Buddy was simply afraid of retalation if he hurt Quinn.

Another possibility is Quinn's foster family. While we know nothing of them, there is possibility that they are connected to law enforcement, althout its unlikely. Larger possibility is that they still try to be involved in Quinn's life and would simly go to the police is something bad would happen to her.

 

[Vega101]

Where does the game show this?

We know the VIP room customers get sex from the strippers.

The game specifically tells us on the Nicole route that Nicole no longer does that.
But nothing on the Lily route says that.

All we know is that the DIKs haven't had sex with lily. But she could just have refused VIP sex with them because she knows them.

I feel like people don't want to think that Lily is fucking customers in the VIP room, but while the game tells us that Nicole doesn't do that it says nothing about Lily.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer it if the game clarifies that at some point and says she only strips.

You want me to give you a quote that says Lilly is a virgin? Yeah, there's no such quote, and maybe Lilly worked in the VIP room a couple of times, but if you read between the lines, it's clear Lilly isn't the type of character who would do it full-time. For her, Pink Rose is just a way to make money. She's happy with the money she gets paid just for dancing. Based on her backstory, it's clear why she's not serious about nudity, but she definitely wouldn't like some drunk jerk screwing her in a club. Like when that jock hit on her at the HOTs party.

She worked at the Rose even before she went to college. All the Dicks knew Lilly only because she worked at the Pink Rose. If she'd refused, then who was she sleeping with? As far as I'm concerned, students would be the best option for her.

And I wouldn't care if she slept with anyone, I just don't see it in her character. Yeah, they said that about Nicole, but that doesn't mean anything. They also said that Quinn doesn't kiss guys or suck dick, but that's not true. Just like Nicole doesn't sleep with guys, but for $4, yes. Just because someone works at Pink Rose doesn't mean they're 100% hooking up for money. It's just an optional extra, just like with Rose. Cindy obviously does this with rich men. Tanya only sleeps with Tommy. Lilly only sleeps for tequila, and only because she liked the MC.

 

[King Cule]

You're playing with fire.
You don't really want to take Darkwen's queen away from him.

Darkwen
sorry man
I saw her before you

 

[hakuna-matata]

Do you think that the locked room reveal will be related to Lynette then?

The locked room reveal is going to be a let down. Brace yourself for disappointment after years of hyping the "locked door". Unless Bella is pulling a Norman Bates, it's to be a crypto mining room or a baby/child room. Then we'll see MC running like a Pussy, "I didn't know you had a baby." and sulks for a few weeks.

 

[Darkwen]

Darkwen
sorry man
I saw her before you
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I do believe i been here longer so my wifely

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

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It's more like Neil and Bella knew each other before, not Linnet. The stereotypical shared song is reminiscent of first love. All of this seems more like DPC is casting Bella as a mother figure.

You think these friends would care for Linnet's son, but they didn't even find out the cause of their friend's death? Like she died after giving birth, leaving behind a child. That's only possible if Neil lied about the child dying.

Let's say Linnet and Bella were friends. So what? That doesn't contribute to the plot. It doesn't introduce Tremolo to his grandfather.
There was some large painting in Bella's office that she put away somewhere. Maybe it's now hanging in a locked room.
It's wide enough for four or five friends to share, but who the hell hangs a big photo on the wall?
Another weird thing is the Bella family finances. During Tybalt's presentation, Jill points out that Bella doesn't live in a poor neighborhood. She even has a swimming pool at home. Her parents may have been wealthy, but now, as a teacher and librarian, she doesn't have the savings to open her own bookstore.

How many times must I state my belief that none of Lynette's friends know she is dead? It was not Neil who hid the fact but Lynette's parents. Lynette's friends did not choose to leave Neil and MC to themselves. They do not know their help was needed.

 

[Bozeman75]

You want me to give you a quote that says Lilly is a virgin? Yeah, there's no such quote, and maybe Lilly worked in the VIP room a couple of times, but if you read between the lines, it's clear Lilly isn't the type of character who would do it full-time. For her, Pink Rose is just a way to make money. She's happy with the money she gets paid just for dancing. Based on her backstory, it's clear why she's not serious about nudity, but she definitely wouldn't like some drunk jerk screwing her in a club. Like when that jock hit on her at the HOTs party.

She worked at the Rose even before she went to college. All the Dicks knew Lilly only because she worked at the Pink Rose. If she'd refused, then who was she sleeping with? As far as I'm concerned, students would be the best option for her.

And I wouldn't care if she slept with anyone, I just don't see it in her character. Yeah, they said that about Nicole, but that doesn't mean anything. They also said that Quinn doesn't kiss guys or suck dick, but that's not true. Just like Nicole doesn't sleep with guys, but for $4, yes. Just because someone works at Pink Rose doesn't mean they're 100% hooking up for money. It's just an optional extra, just like with Rose. Cindy obviously does this with rich men. Tanya only sleeps with Tommy. Lilly only sleeps for tequila, and only because she liked the MC.
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I guess we'll find out at some point (hopefully).

It just didn't feel like Lily would say:

ly "I can only do the things I do {b}because{/b} I haven't fallen for someone."

If she was just talking about stripping.
I don't think stripping bothers her and it definitely doesn't bother the MC - he's after Nicole and she is definitely not quitting stripping, she has no other real way to make sufficient money.

 

[ZenoMod]

The locked room reveal is going to a let down. Brace yourself for disappointment after years of hyping the "locked door". Unless Bella is pulling a Norman Bates, it's to be a crypto mining room or a baby/child room. Then we'll see MC running like a Pussy, "I didn't know you had a baby." and sulks for a few weeks.

Yeah, probably a child room for Bella's unborn baby (miscarriage) or died child (terrible illness)...

 

[DrAddy]

I do believe i been here longer so my wifely

Strictly speaking, I was the first of the three of us to see Josy.
But since I'm more interested in Nicole, it's okay that you have Josy.

 

[Vega101]

Perhaps there are other friends of Rox who are still around? It is possible that they told Buddy to take care of Quinn because they are incapable of doing so for various reason. If this is the case, Buddy was simply afraid of retalation if he hurt Quinn.

Another possibility is Quinn's foster family. While we know nothing of them, there is possibility that they are connected to law enforcement, althout its unlikely. Larger possibility is that they still try to be involved in Quinn's life and would simly go to the police is something bad would happen to her.

Have you followed Quinn's journey to the end of Episode 11?

After Rox's death (which I think was Buddy's fault), Quinn was sent to an orphanage, told her parents could no longer care for her. Then a regular family adopted her. They tried to raise her properly, fearing that her genetics would lead her to follow in her parents' footsteps, but the strict restrictions only heightened her interest. She was also forbidden from seeing her Uncle Buddy.
Because he was Quinn's only connection with her father, she began visiting him frequently. He taught her a lot about drugs: how to sell, how not to overdose, etc.
Her adoptive parents know she's been hanging out with Buddy, and that's why they're now disappointed in Quinn. Or something like that, it doesn't matter.
He only did it so she would work for him in the future. Buddy doesn't have any good feelings towards either Quinn or Rox.