VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lagunavii]

This is what I was replying to. "Determined to do it" and "confident in her solutions" are not words to describe a passive observer.

I agree she floats the idea, even if it comes across as slightly deranged

But Roger was talking about a party yet to happen, so essentially arguing about a future we are only unsure about - but confident it is - while "determined to do it" and "confident in her solutions" are not exactly passive - the argument here is if the party does indeed go ahead like we all, bar dali and a few others think it will, the idea stemed from here and it'll be sage that makes it happen one way or another when it does.

Which you kinda agree with, so we are essentially quibbling over nothing

 

[qwertyqwe23123]

But Roger was talking about a party yet to happen, so essentially arguing about a future we are only unsure about - but confident it is - while "determined to do it" and "confident in her solutions" are not exactly passive - the argument here is if the party does indeed go ahead like we all, bar dali and a few others think it will, the idea stemed from here and it'll be sage that makes it happen one way or another when it does.

Which you kinda agree with, so we are essentially quibbling over nothing

I think we agree on the methods, but perhaps not entirely on the destination.
To be clear, there is no doubt about the massive party. I just don't think the Alphas will be there.
It could happen, but it would mean DPC would intentionally dumb down Sage to the point she actually thinks this is a good idea, which I'm not a fan of.
We all know if it happens, it will end horribly.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Fine let's break it down to pieces.

Sage: "The thought is nice, but could you imagine a party with DIKs and alphas?"
Sage: "And I don't mean like our party with just MC and Jacob; I mean a full-scale party with everyone."

At this point Sage is not serious about having such a party. It's a joke.

Riona: "That would be a disaster! They're hardwired to hate each other."

Riona joins in on joking about it.

MC: "Yeah. Even if one or two of us might get along, there are too many of us that never would."
MC: "Like, imagine if Dawe and Tommy had to party with each other. I’d give that party two minutes before it went south."

MC joins in too. They are all joking about a hypothetical disaster party.

Sage: "I think you’re being too narrow-minded on that one. Imagine if the party was huge, bigger than this one."
Sage: "Do you think it wouldn't work when there are that many guests? The DlKs and the alphas wouldn’t even have to talk."

Sage starts to play devil's advocate. She is beginning to warm up to the idea.

MC: "Maybe at first, but you know how alcohol brings out the worst in some? I just don’t see it happening."

MC responds semi-seriously. He agrees that having a lot of people might help, but it would only delay the inevitable.

Sage: "Well, you'll have to think about something. I doubt we’ll be able to fool the alphas easily after this."

The idea has been put on the shelf, but it is no longer just a joke.

Next day the HOTs are helping the DIKs clean up and alphas come to complain. Now Sage has to start mediating between them for real. Two months of frustrating talks later Sage is ready to make that joke into reality.

It's how narrative foreshadowing works. Because the characters joked about how a party with both DIKs and alphas would be a disaster, there is going to be such a party and it will be a disaster.

 

[treechild1]

Peace and Serenity, Zoey Edition:

" It may be strange
To bring this up but it's been on my mind
Maybe, things would change
If you didn't act so resigned
Don't Forgive Me

Let me feel what it's like
To lose out to the night
Don't Forgive Me

Leave me there
On my own to seek out the light "

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Enough of that. How's this for a change in conversation, will any of the girls go home with MC for Christmas Eve/Day? We already know MC can go see Iris, Bella's status is currently unknown, I imagine we can go to the Royces, the Baileys might not happen, and with the divorce the Burkes are also up in the air.

But Christmas with MC and Neil could be universal, with the probable exception of Bella.

 

[qwertyqwe23123]

Fine let's break it down to pieces.

Sage: "The thought is nice, but could you imagine a party with DIKs and alphas?"
Sage: "And I don't mean like our party with just MC and Jacob; I mean a full-scale party with everyone."

At this point Sage is not serious about having such a party. It's a joke.

Riona: "That would be a disaster! They're hardwired to hate each other."

Riona joins in on joking about it.

MC: "Yeah. Even if one or two of us might get along, there are too many of us that never would."
MC: "Like, imagine if Dawe and Tommy had to party with each other. I’d give that party two minutes before it went south."

MC joins in too. They are all joking about a hypothetical disaster party.

Sage: "I think you’re being too narrow-minded on that one. Imagine if the party was huge, bigger than this one."
Sage: "Do you think it wouldn't work when there are that many guests? The DlKs and the alphas wouldn’t even have to talk."

Sage starts to play devil's advocate. She is beginning to warm up to the idea.

MC: "Maybe at first, but you know how alcohol brings out the worst in some? I just don’t see it happening."

MC responds semi-seriously. He agrees that having a lot of people might help, but it would only delay the inevitable.

Sage: "Well, you'll have to think about something. I doubt we’ll be able to fool the alphas easily after this."

The idea has been put on the shelf, but it is no longer just a joke.

Next day the HOTs are helping the DIKs clean up and alphas come to complain. Now Sage has to start mediating between them for real. Two months of frustrating talks later Sage is ready to make that joke into reality.

It's how narrative foreshadowing works. Because the characters joked about how a party with both DIKs and alphas would be a disaster, there is going to be such a party and it will be a disaster.

If we assume Sage being dumbed down to the point of being a moron, then I agree with you.

I don't like it, but in that case, I agree.

 

[Lagunavii]

Sage: "Well, you'll have to think about something. I doubt we’ll be able to fool the alphas easily after this."

This here is the important line really - passing it back to the MC, which, when it comes to him thinking of something, he decides to host a party on the same night as the Jocks, and we know that the HOTs prefer partying with the DIKS, so despite them supposed to go to the Jocks party they choose the better option - now obviously as Sage tells Dawe, she cant control what the hots do, but it does cause her a little headache... She will be mighty pissed off with the situation now.

The fact is, the Hots simply can't be spread over two groups; it's not working, so it's either going to be shared or you don't get us at all.

It'll be a carcrash granted - but if that ultimatum is ever put before the DIKs or the Alphas I dont think either of them would be willing to give up the HOTs

 

[Lagunavii]

Enough of that. How's this for a change in conversation, will any of the girls go home with MC for Christmas Eve/Day? We already know MC can go see Iris, Bella's status is currently unknown, I imagine we can go to the Royces, the Baileys might not happen, and with the divorce the Burkes are also up in the air.

Given the conversation with Neil in Episode 11, I would still like Josy and Maya to go home with him. Afterall MC has already told them what his dad said - That would be one awkward dinner.

 

[Rockshark]

Fine let's break it down to pieces.

Sage: "The thought is nice, but could you imagine a party with DIKs and alphas?"
Sage: "And I don't mean like our party with just MC and Jacob; I mean a full-scale party with everyone."

At this point Sage is not serious about having such a party. It's a joke.

Riona: "That would be a disaster! They're hardwired to hate each other."

Riona joins in on joking about it.

MC: "Yeah. Even if one or two of us might get along, there are too many of us that never would."
MC: "Like, imagine if Dawe and Tommy had to party with each other. I’d give that party two minutes before it went south."

MC joins in too. They are all joking about a hypothetical disaster party.

Sage: "I think you’re being too narrow-minded on that one. Imagine if the party was huge, bigger than this one."
Sage: "Do you think it wouldn't work when there are that many guests? The DlKs and the alphas wouldn’t even have to talk."

Sage starts to play devil's advocate. She is beginning to warm up to the idea.

MC: "Maybe at first, but you know how alcohol brings out the worst in some? I just don’t see it happening."

MC responds semi-seriously. He agrees that having a lot of people might help, but it would only delay the inevitable.

Sage: "Well, you'll have to think about something. I doubt we’ll be able to fool the alphas easily after this."

The idea has been put on the shelf, but it is no longer just a joke.

Next day the HOTs are helping the DIKs clean up and alphas come to complain. Now Sage has to start mediating between them for real. Two months of frustrating talks later Sage is ready to make that joke into reality.

It's how narrative foreshadowing works. Because the characters joked about how a party with both DIKs and alphas would be a disaster, there is going to be such a party and it will be a disaster.

I actually really like the idea of the DIK and the Alphas being in the same party but in seperate rooms/spaces.
This could make the activities in the party planning and the actions made during the party itself have more meaning.

For example if you choose good activities in the party more people will join the DIKs side of the party and leave the Alphas to party alone.
It is also possible that we get a mission to try to convince people to join our side of the party similar to the mission in the HOTs party when we had to make all of the Alphas leave the party.
By doing this things in the party we could recieve a massive boost in the happiness of every DIK in the minigame.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Given the conversation with Neil in Episode 11, I would still like Josy and Maya to go home with him. Afterall MC has already told them what his dad said - That would be one awkward dinner.

That'd be pretty funny if we broke up after taking them home to try and prove Neil wrong

 

[Blue Milk]

Enough of that. How's this for a change in conversation, will any of the girls go home with MC for Christmas Eve/Day?

No

 

[Lagunavii]

That'd be pretty funny if we broke up after taking them home to try and prove Neil wrong

Only breaking up with one of them though

 

[Darkwen]

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Enough of that. How's this for a change in conversation, will any of the girls go home with MC for Christmas Eve/Day? We already know MC can go see Iris, Bella's status is currently unknown, I imagine we can go to the Royces, the Baileys might not happen, and with the divorce the Burkes are also up in the air.

But Christmas with MC and Neil could be universal, with the probable exception of Bella.

Christmas with Josy check, i would think he with the other Mg's or takes his home though not sure if he would take Bella home

 

[Blue Milk]

I actually really like the idea of the DIK and the Alphas being in the same party but in seperate rooms/spaces.

I'm not entirely against that idea, honestly. It could be such that there's 2 main party areas, the one where Maya's preview is for the DIKs and that basketball court area for the Jocks, and the DIKs and Jocks are told they can stay in one area if they want to but are also free to mingle in others areas if the want to and the guests, all 70 of them, will be mingling in and between both areas.

So it's still a party with both frats, but they're able to stay in one area if they want to avoid potential confrontation. But each area will probably be no different in terms of food, music, etc, in the interest of fairness, it will just be that there's enough room this way for 87 people.

 

[hunterashton21]

hey guys, have i missed anything (renders, important news)? i havent been here since last update

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

If we assume Sage being dumbed down to the point of being a moron, then I agree with you.

I don't like it, but in that case, I agree.

It's up to ep 12 to sell how well founded Sage's optimism is. Suppose that it actually goes fairly smoothly and then some asshole (Magnar) manipulates some idiot hothead (Caleb) into stating a fight. At that point it would be sabotage by an unforeseen entity. Hardly something Sage should have seen coming.

 

[Lagunavii]

It's up to ep 12 to sell how well founded Sage's optimism is. Suppose that it actually goes fairly smoothly and then some asshole (Magnar) manipulates some idiot hothead (Caleb) into stating a fight. At that point it would be sabotage by an unforeseen entity. Hardly something Sage should have seen coming.

While I dont think Magnar will directly be involved - a joint party between seems like the perfect opportunity for a drunk Dawe to confront the Diks or have a go at the DIKs about the letters Magnar has sent them

 

[Better Cock Spock]

hey guys, have i missed anything (renders, important news)? i havent been here since last update

No, nothing shhh, no one tell him about the Steam announcement, trailer and previews!

 

[qwertyqwe23123]

It's up to ep 12 to sell how well founded Sage's optimism is. Suppose that it actually goes fairly smoothly and then some asshole (Magnar) manipulates some idiot hothead (Caleb) into stating a fight. At that point it would be sabotage by an unforeseen entity. Hardly something Sage should have seen coming.

It is possible, though thinking where episode 11 left us, with Magnar throwing more fuel to the fire I find it hard to see how it could be resolved in a single episode. Not to mention that even to get to that point you'd have to believe that Tommy and Dawe can play nice with each other

One way I could see the "joint" party happening if it's like that one episode of Friends, with the 2 parties. In which Joey, or in our case MC, will be standing in the hallway ushering all the women to the DiKs party, and the guys to the Alpha party.

That I could get on board with

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Only breaking up with one of them though

Hey dad, remember when I brought Maya and Josy over for Christmas? Well... which one was your favorite

Christmas with Josy check, i would think he with the other Mg's or takes his home though not sure if he would take Bella home

If Roger's theory is correct he would take Bella home. If it isn't... well, he's going to have to meet her eventually, I would prefer it's before the wedding or she gets pregnant