VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[TonyMurray]

Except those counterpoints aren't great. If there are technical issues then those could still have been worked out for Episode 9 rather than an interlude. If the purpose of the Interlude was to flesh out Zoey as a character and allow you to shape her then why does DPC undercut all that by reducing her to a single variable come episode 9.

And sure you don't introduce all your characters at once but as I mentioned that was already done with Josy being properly brought in with episode 4. The issue with Zoey is that introducing her properly at Interlude/Episode 9 is that it's so late (halfway through the story essentially) that if they're meant to be a proper romantic spanner in the works then she's still at a standing start as a character while everyone else is essentially moving towards the finish line. And if DPC's intent was to have her be a spanner in the works romantically, again this is immediately undermined by the ability to go "nah, sorry" within minutes.

It just feels like there's a draft of this where DPC meant for her to be a "Main Girl" but got sidetracked by everyone else and it's too late to properly integrate her. And rather than go "that's a shame, but I have all these characters already" instead they tried to flesh her out with the Interlude but because none of the variables can be retroactively integrated back into the main narrative they don't actually exist to shape the character because, again, it just ends up kicking into Episode 9 with "is Zoey a DIK or CHICK".

Just woke up and the thread has moved on... but only after a bunch more of the same... so I won't continue it. Instead, I will agree with you now.

You are 100% in the right here, because it's impossible to provide reasons to the contrary while simultaneously ignoring all the reasons to the contrary.

 

[NyVar]

im going to play my perfect balanced josy/maya chick save game where i just had sex with them (and with the tattooed smurf of course) at first.

I had to really think about who you meant Other than the nice ass she had in those pants at the outdoor party, i've hardly thought ab her..

but, yeah, think im gonna start with the throuple as well

 

[Chalk boss]

So my first run will definitely be Sage.
Second is Josy and Maya.
Third is the Others, focusing on Lily and Quinn.
The last one is Jill and Bella, and it's not a given that I'll get through them right away and not save them for later.
Bella's branch is just very boring, I'm not interested in Bella as a character, I don't have a fetish for MILFs, and even though Jill is a beauty, her whole branch also makes me yawn.
Since there's at least a year and a half ahead, I'll have time to get through this branch.

 

[BobRossGhost]

Guess Josy's too busy trying to find herself to be apart of the episode... shame

thats the big twist, its not Riona thats missing, in fact she shows up at the very start because Quinn handles it off screen, Josy however falls down a well and is gone the entire episode

 

[DanKaye519]

Okay. The only two paths I didn't really take were Bella and DIK Affinity, which I was trying to get but my conscience got the best of me on a few of the choices and I ended up Neutral. So I'm gonna do a DIK Affinity with others path and then obviously CHIK or Neutral with Bella. (I hate that I can't have Cathy for this one).

My mind is already made up that Ep 10 is the worst of the game. We'll see if these playthroughs change my mind but I doubt it. The stupid fight club thing is what kills it for me I think. That and there's never any differences in our interactions with Sally and Zoey.

 

[DanKaye519]

So my first run will definitely be Sage.
Second is Josy and Maya.
Third is the Others, focusing on Lily and Quinn.
The last one is Jill and Bella, and it's not a given that I'll get through them right away and not save them for later.
Bella's branch is just very boring, I'm not interested in Bella as a character, I don't have a fetish for MILFs, and even though Jill is a beauty, her whole branch also makes me yawn.
Since there's at least a year and a half ahead, I'll have time to get through this branch.

I agree 1 billion percent about Jill and probably Bella too. I haven't done the Bella path yet but she just kinda irks me. The fact that she just immediately is trying to jump on MC's dick and doesn't stop even though Jill is obviously trying to make something happen doesn't make much sense to me. And yes, Jill is just too proper. That's why I commented earlier this week with a theory that she's really a liar and manipulator. I know I'm probably wrong about it but it would give her a much needed boost toward being somewhat interesting.

 

[Chalk boss]

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• EP12 Release could be 30th May 2026 to 4 July 2026 with a 65/70 weeks projection [AvG: June 2026].

EP​	Renders​	Animations​	(min)​	Music*​	Δ	Size_GB​	Release​	Development Time​	Ratio*​	R/W​	sA/W​
EP1​	1301 (+00%)​	51 (+000)​	3:29​	—​	7​	1.1 (new)​	07 Feb, 19​	— days​	—​	—​	—​
EP2​	1709 (+31%)​	77 (+026)​	3:36​	—​	8​	2.3 (+1.2)​	04 May, 19​	087 (2 months, 28 days |≈12 weeks)​	155​	138​	17.4​
EP3​	2289 (+34%)​	99 (+022)​	4:42​	—​	10​	4.1 (+1.8)​	16 Aug, 19​	105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)​	177​	153​	18.8​
EP4​	2532 (+11%)​	134 (+035)​	7:57​	—​	15​	6.1 (+2.0)​	10 Jan, 20​	148 (4 months, 26 days |≈21 weeks)​	142​	120​	22.6​
EP5​	2456 (-03%)​	157 (+023)​	8:35​	17 (3.4K$)​	11​	8.0 (+1.9)​	29 May, 20​	141 (4 months, 20 days |≈20 weeks)​	147​	122​	25.6​
EP6​	3336 (+35%)​	162 (+005)​	8:33​	24 (4.8K$)​	19​	11.1 (+3.1)​	13 Nov, 20​	169 (5 months, 16 days |≈24 weeks)​	159​	138​	21.2​
EP7​	3723 (+12%)​	250 (+055)​	18:14​	18 (3.6K$)​	15​	14.5 (+3.4)​	23 Apr, 21​	162 (5 months, 11 days |≈23 weeks)​	208​	161​	47.3​
EP8​	4158 (+12%)​	358 (+108)​	26:21​	34 (6.8K$)​	16​	19.5 (+5.0)​	19 Nov, 21​	211 (6 months, 28 days |≈30 weeks)​	190​	138​	52.5​
EPI​	0794 (+00%)​	36 (+000)​	4:36​	19 (3.8K$)​	2​	2.6 (new)​	4 Mar, 22​	105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)​	71​	53​	17.7​
EP9​	5037 (+21%)​	303 (-055)​	26:08​	21 (4.2K$)​	18​	7.3 (+4.7)​	16 Dec, 22​	287 (9 months, 12 days |≈41 weeks)​	161​	123​	38.2​
EP10​	5868 (+16%)​	335 (+032)​	25:10​	21 (4.2K$)​	16​	12.3 (+5.0)​	8 Dec, 23​	357 (11 months, 22 days |≈51 weeks)..​	145​	115​	29.6​
EP11​	7113 (+21%)​	392 (+057)​	—​	42 (8.4K$)​	16​	18.5 (+6.2)​	7 Mar, 25​	456 (1 year, 3 months |≈65 weeks).​	—​	109​	—​
EP12​	—​	—​	—​	—​	—​	—​	—​	—	—​	—​	—​

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If I'm not mistaken DPС promised 18 scenes, not 16.

KaiserST can confirm or deny what I'm saying.

 

[Chalk boss]

Thanks a lot, mate.
You've actually allayed my fears, because to me 16 scenes is a failure, considering 2 or 3 scenes might be scenes with Madame.

 

[BobRossGhost]

Thanks a lot, mate.
You've actually allayed my fears, because to me 16 scenes is a failure, considering 2 or 3 scenes might be scenes with Madame.

he's not gonna do Madame 2 episodes in a row is he?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I thing Tybalt will fall from grace. He will loose alot especially if Jill proceed to report him and Trent backing Jill up, hw will loose his President position especially because of the damning evidence. Second of all her parents divorce, during the flashback of Stephen we found out that he does not want to adopt and I think after the divorce Stephen will cut off Tybalt in his money

Tyballs might become the newest addition at the Pink Rose, where he can reunite with his birth mom

If I were a betting man, I'd say Tommy is envious of Rusty and would do just about anything to unseat him as Prez.

Does no one else think Tommy is evil? Rusty runs the DIKs and has a hard-on for Vinny. I guess he'd do anything to push Rusty out and blame Vinny. How could he blame Vinny? All he has to do is use the fact that Vinny quit the DIKs to ruin them. Vinny is evil too, but that doesn't mean that the two evil fuckfaces are on the same team.

Becoming President comes with more than just the title and ego boost, it will come with responsibilities too. And not just normal college type shit, but keeping the DIKs running the way they've been doing, acting like a leader and not a whiny bitch, etc. As VP, Tommy can have a lot of the fun without the pain in the ass responsibilities, so why get rid of Rusty?

 

[Chalk boss]

he's not gonna do Madame 2 episodes in a row is he?

I actually think there's gonna be a threesome scene between Madame and some girl from Pink Rose, like Sandy.
DPC will just want to troll Madame's haters and justify her presence in the story somehow. Everybody loves a threesome.

 

[Chalk boss]

I agree 1 billion percent about Jill and probably Bella too. I haven't done the Bella path yet but she just kinda irks me. The fact that she just immediately is trying to jump on MC's dick and doesn't stop even though Jill is obviously trying to make something happen doesn't make much sense to me. And yes, Jill is just too proper. That's why I commented earlier this week with a theory that she's really a liar and manipulator. I know I'm probably wrong about it but it would give her a much needed boost toward being somewhat interesting.

Many blame Sage for starting to bang MCs while in a relationship, but Bella's behavior is even worse. She pushed Jill to date the MC, yet she never told MC to stop. Bella acts like a hypocrite and selfish and it really devalues her as a character no matter how much drama she has.
She is a very bad friend and she realized it when it first happened. This is usually how immature young girls behave, but Bella is a grown woman who can always say stop.
This whole conflict is just poorly written. Bella has her doubts, but all of her doubts have to do with the age difference, not the fact that she's doing it behind Jill's back.
She could have just asked how serious MC's feelings for Jill were back in ep5 and nothing would have happened. But DPС loves cheap drama so it didn't happen. He just needs to bump Jill and Bella head-on, but he doesn't think it looks very childish and stupid.

 

[shanksyou]

I'm going to be downloading the game newest update EP 11 when it comes out, but i would like to play from the latest saves (ep 10 onwards). So all i need to do is download the "Ep 11 start saves" file and "season 3 Persistent" folder and drop them into the Game folder?

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Huh, that's a slightly weird number. 24472 = 2*2*2*7*19*23. If each of the fifteen choices is a binary DIK/Chick choice, then you'd have up to 32768 possible sets. It's not immediately obvious how to reverse engineer the 24472 back to the decision structure.

I suppose if I really wanted, I could pore over the walkthrough to extract the conditions under which each decision is forced, and run my own calculations to confirm...

Ah I was getting worried that no one would ask me.

Starting point is indeed 2^15 or 32768. However you are not allowed to fight Caleb if you didn't fight the jocks so we must subtract the 2^13 or 8192 iterations where that would happen. Now we are at 24576, but we are not done. You see if you go all in on either extreme you get permanent affinity at ep 6. In ep 8 you will have the neutral option just like in s 3 so they don't affect the number of iterations, but ep 7 just forces you to stick to your permanent affinity. That gives you 24 iterations that aren't possible if you get permanent affinity at choice 11 and a further 80 if you get it at choice 12. So we end up with 24472.

That much I could handle, but calculating how many possible ways there are to choose the girls or play the paths is a nightmare I'm not going to even attempt.

 

[rainnnnnn]

i hope so. in my favorite game there was one... i liked it very much.

she decided? how do you do that?

it has for all the renders, not only unique.
i dont know how it work. maybe it will be only from ep11, because the season1+2 is separated game. so you wont know here how many missing in total.

i remember it was certain number, not percentage. in badik what is and will be bigger, the percentage doesnt show how many missing from 99% to 100%

All she had to do was literally press → → ← ↓ ← ↑ fo the OUCH attack to connect and Vini would have let her go.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Ah I was getting worried that no one would ask me.

Starting point is indeed 2^15 or 32768. However you are not allowed to fight Caleb if you didn't fight the jocks so we must subtract the 2^13 or 8192 iterations where that would happen. Now we are at 24576, but we are not done. You see if you go all in on either extreme you get permanent affinity at ep 6. In ep 8 you will have the neutral option just like in s 3 so they don't affect the number of iterations, but ep 7 just forces you to stick to your permanent affinity. That gives you 24 iterations that aren't possible if you get permanent affinity at choice 11 and a further 80 if you get it at choice 12. So we end up with 24472.

That much I could handle, but calculating how many possible ways there are to choose the girls or play the paths is a nightmare I'm not going to even attempt.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

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And proud of it!

I believe I have said that the character most like me in this game is Phillip Hoff.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Tommy knows who Maya is through Josy, although I'm not sure if they've met before.

No one asked, but I got confirmation about Tommy meeting Maya before. I was sure it happened but couldn't remember, it would make sense.

And proud of it!

I believe I have said that the character most like me in this game is Phillip Hoff.

Are there any other reasons why?

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

Are there any other reasons why?
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Don't insult me! Mine are way bigger than his!

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

John Cena done waited so long for this update that he got pissed and turned into a villain.