VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Einarr the Red

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DarkLords00 said:
This is a constant in pretty much every game where you have the possibilty to choose different choices and it isn't going to change for this or any avn in this site.
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Serious question, why not? I'm not just referring to this AV, but you said ANY AVN on this site.... why? What's stopping someone from doing exactly that, having the option to tell one of the potential LI's to piss off, or the MC does something that causes her to tell him to piss off?

I get why it won't happen in this VN, because DPC wrote it that way... it is what it is.
 
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Einarr the Red said:
I've only done two play thru's and only one serious one which was the Maya and Josy path. In that serious run, I accepted it but never used the service. At that point I didn't know much about this VN or how it plays out. So my thinking was he would accept just to find out and maybe get some evidence on Quinn and what she was up to, not to actually get involved. It seemed like to me, at that early point, that Quinn was looking to groom Maya to become on of her whores and since I was planning on following Maya's path I wanted the MC to protect her. So I was making choices I thought would lead to positioning the MC to have leverage or whatever to help Maya (at one point she talks about needing help with tuition and the MC agrees to help, so I kept his wallet full at $$$$$ waiting for there to be a point where he... well.. gives her money to help her out... which never happens :rolleyes: ).

Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed that this bit of detective work turns out to be... worthless. Even if you tell Maya Quinn is using some of the HOTs to make money (and connecting the dots on that and the "free tuition" that Maya is obsessed with isn't hard) gets nothing, because Maya looks back at the MC and says something like "you mean like doing community service". Makes you wonder just how hard she bleached that hair. Oh yeah, some of them are definitely servicing the community Maya... :rolleyes: From then on the whole plot point gets ignored, the MC never bluntly explains it to Maya or to anyone else, they never tell Sage (who would be devastated by it given her relationship with Quinn and how much she cares about the HOTs) nor does he even ever use it to threaten or blackmail Quinn (or at least use it as a threat to make her leave Maya alone). It just sits there as an open secret ignored by every character in the game, and even the MC seems to forget its there.

Then the "restaurant" just disappears a few episodes in and now you have scene driven opportunities to buy sex from Sarah, Mel, or Camilla which apparently happen whether you accepted the offer from Quinn or not.

So, in the future, I don't plan to accept because it seems pointless and I don't like the idea of buying sex, just has no appeal to me. As someone else said, I guess it might make some sense if you are on Quinn's path, but otherwise... nah.
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If you do the full DIK route without utilising Quinn's restaurant you'll miss out on at least a 3some with Quinn and Riona, a gloryhole with Tara and someone else at the dorm party and some freebie sex scenes with Camila, Sarah, Mel and Riona instead of them asking for payment, you'll need them to unlock some of those special renders and 2d pictures. It's also quite easy to keep your wallet with enough $$$$$ in it by taking the money off Maya's board every time you re-enter her room.
 
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Lachiel said:
Thanks for the additonal explanation.

Still seems weird and frustrating to me that at least in my play through. It wasn't Josy and Maya turning the MC down... They were both saying... We love each other but we still want another chance with you... it was the MC saying and I forget the exact quote.. but something like... "I want true love, you broke my heart, so I will just be friends with you two." Seems to me a Total DIK would be like "Sure, you guys be in love and I will still date you both, but since you can't give me your heart yet... I'm going to date others too."

Any who... I will try a play through shooting for a more neutral POV... Josy and Maya are the only two characters I have a strong attraction to as a player... sure some of the others are hot... but those two are super my type.
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the meaning and situation is not exactly that... Mc brings up the story of following one's heart only if they "try for something more"

mc "I don't know if this helps you at all, but..."
mc "Whenever I wasn't sure of what to do in life, my dad told me that making choices..."
mc "...while following your heart, will take you exactly where you're supposed to be."
mc "And that it is why some choices are harder to make than others..."
mc "...especially when your heart tells you to go against the grain."
mc "The biggest choices in life may be of great risk and promise a great reward."
mc "The scariest part about making these big choices..."
mc "...is that you have no clue if there's a turning back, if the outcome wasn't what you desired."
mc "But even how scary it may feel...just remember that first part..."
mc "Following your heart...will take you exactly where you're supposed to be."

and at that point according to affinity the girls accept or not. and if the girls don't accept MC still decides to give them another chance as friends (no sense... but DPC likes in this way)

if MC instead chooses to remain friends, there's no big talk
mc "And I'll give you another chance..."
mc "...but only as a friend.
mc "I can't do it any other way."

and there is no counter-proposal or dissatisfaction of the girls at least at the moment
 
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felicemastronzo said:
the meaning and situation is not exactly that... Mc brings up the story of following one's heart only if they "try for something more"

mc "I don't know if this helps you at all, but..."
mc "Whenever I wasn't sure of what to do in life, my dad told me that making choices..."
mc "...while following your heart, will take you exactly where you're supposed to be."
mc "And that it is why some choices are harder to make than others..."
mc "...especially when your heart tells you to go against the grain."
mc "The biggest choices in life may be of great risk and promise a great reward."
mc "The scariest part about making these big choices..."
mc "...is that you have no clue if there's a turning back, if the outcome wasn't what you desired."
mc "But even how scary it may feel...just remember that first part..."
mc "Following your heart...will take you exactly where you're supposed to be."

and at that point according to affinity the girls accept or not. and if the girls don't accept MC still decides to give them another chance as friends (no sense... but DPC likes in this way)

if MC instead chooses to remain friends, there's no big talk
mc "And I'll give you another chance..."
mc "...but only as a friend.
mc "I can't do it any other way."

and there is no counter-proposal or dissatisfaction of the girls at least at the moment
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"Sage, didn't you used to fuck him before MC started dating me?"
"... Jill, that was different. He was just a rebound guy" :HideThePain:
 
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Einarr the Red said:
Serious question, why not? I'm not just referring to this AV, but you said ANY AVN on this site.... why? What's stopping someone from doing exactly that, having the option to tell one of the potential LI's to piss off, or the MC does something that causes her to tell him to piss off?
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The answer might not be a particularly popular one, but it's just too much work.

Hypothetically, you tell Jill to piss off, you don't want her in your save whatsoever. DPC would have to then consider any "shared" events involving Jill, in recent memory, The Halloween party, Sage's room and library when discussing Maya's loan, the BBQ, Bella's panty party, and so on, would all require alternate scripts, code and renders, then DPC would have to do that whole process for every MG, Halloween party without Sage, Bella's panty party without the throuple, what happens if you tell Bella to piss off etc. Why would Bella side with you over Jill in this case, so there's another branch that'd need alternate scripts, code, renders.

Exploring the whole telling Jill to piss off concept, hypothetically we're on Sage's path because its the one i know best. In Episode 11, Sage and Jill bond and spend time together, whether on screen or off it, them getting their nails done is a canon event. Why wouldn't Jill ask Sage why you don't want anything to do with her, would they even be in that situation if they didn't bond at the Halloween party over hating Tyballs or would Sage still irrationally dislike Jill for a misconception in her head?

The length of time taken on these updates comes down to one word, branching. This would make it a million times worse. There's a reason that since Season 3 all of the paths are converging, because its easier to produce 15 renders of Sage hugging Tremolo, 25 of Josy/Maya, then whole other exclusive scenes. I feel like DPC had a major issue in Episode 10 with 4 MG paths, 6/7 side girl paths, then other branches such as Cathy or feelings for Maya/Josy, and it's only getting worse in Episode 11 with Zoey, and theres question marks around Sally/Cinderella, and even Sarah/Mel are shown to be a lot more intimate than previous

I do agree on stuff like Zoey being forced on the player is annoying, and I don't disagree that the start of the game is very hamfisted with Jill's path, and to an extent Maya's, I don't mind the MC having a crush or whatever at the start of the game on Josy because the VN starts at that one specific point. There could always be more player urgency in VNs, it'd be nice to break off a path when you want, but again, branching.
 
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Guys im confused do i need to download season 1 and 2 play though thoes then download the Season 3+Episode 11 Download? or does the season 3+Episode 11 include everything i need?
 
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