Ray_D

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The locked room reveal is going to be a let down. Brace yourself for disappointment after years of hyping the "locked door". Unless Bella is pulling a Norman Bates, it's to be a crypto mining room or a baby/child room. Then we'll see MC running like a Pussy, "I didn't know you had a baby." and sulks for a few weeks.
I've been saying that ever since Derek ruined Christmas dinner at the end of chapter 11.:HideThePain:
 
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It's a double standard. How you do treat people who sell drugs in real life?

She's a grown woman and knew the risks she was taking. Her only problem is that Quinn was controlling her life.
She agreed to this job voluntarily so she could get free tuition. Otherwise, she's practically earning nothing, spending all her money on weed.

She'll be fine. Just a few bruises, and now she'll be without her piercings. The abuse is terrible, but maybe it's for the best, since she won't be dealing with things that ruin her life anymore.
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The fact that she was beaten is a stupid plot point. The dealer simply beat up his runner, even though she confessed everything right away. Having beaten her, she obviously wouldn't be able to continue working for a while, and as a result, she'll lose the money she earned from the sale. And all this because Quinn was selling at a higher price. It's nonsense.
It would've made more sense to keep her as collateral to keep Quinn in line. It would've also set the stage for a rescue mission and somewhat justified the series of events that took place. The DIKs, the strippers, and the HOTs could've banded together to save her and take down the ones responsible. It could've been epic, but missed opportunity I guess.

I treat everyone equally unless they give me a reason not to. Drug dealers aren't inherently bad. They may have no other option to get by in life. She's young, immature, naive, vulnerable, gullible, and starved for affection. She may be an adult, but she's been brainwashed and manipulated by Quinn, which compromised her decision making faculties.
 
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FalconLover420

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Not sure if it is directly stated, but the DIK's timeline seems to be:
  • 2 years ago Rusty, Tommy, Nick and Vinny founded the brotherhood.
  • 1 year ago Jacob and John Boy joined.
  • Sometime in the previous Spring semester Leon and Jamie joined.
  • Present day Derek and MC joined. Nick left.
At some point Vinny left the brotherhood, but it is not clear when that happened.
Okay so it would go something like this (Current Members only)
3rd year: Rusty, Tommy
2nd year: Jacob, JB, Leon and Jamie
1st Year: Derek and MC

The flashback was two years ago.
Sage is now a senior (4th year) - she graduates in the spring.

But she and Chad were not dating in the flashback.
I initially thought they were but was corrected and rewatched the flashback scene.
She was in her first year as HOT president (her sophomore year).
All the flashback shows is her confirming that the HOTs party with the Alphas and then asking Chad about party planning.
That was part of her job as president.
Chad then ignores her and walks away and she goes after him still talking about planning a party.

The flashback doesn't give any indication to them being together.
There's no way she would have been with Chad for the last two years without any sex.

And we can have some confidence that they have not had sex at all based on their fights.

I think all that points to them only being together for a relatively short amount of time.
Right so it must be around that time.
Because we know that Troy was kicked out of the Jocks last year for unknown reasons either the 2nd semester or the first semester. So we can pinpoint based on Troy that Sage and Chad were still together on their 3rd year and on the halloween party committee which started in the 3rd year, the time that sage and chad were starting to have issues AND the dispute with Jocks and Diks started happening when Tommy fucked Arieth.

TLDR:
Chad and Sage were in a relationship by their 3rd year with the breakup starting in the beginning of their 4th year.
Jade also recalls meeting Chad and remarked to the MC that he always looked a little gay.
There might have been sex in the beginning but with Troy in the picture, Chad kept making up excuses.
Also explains why there is dildos and buttplugs in Sage's Room.

Maybe they got together at end of the 2nd year due to whole jocks and hots being together.
 
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Thank you very much, my main choice was between Sage and Bella



Thank you very much, my main choice was between Sage and Bella
Both are great, and I also love the Jill route.
The Bella route is so good, and seeing her open up and start to heal is good to see.
However, her route has a lot of potential bad stuff that will likely come up and cause pain between her and the MC.
Hopefully they will still get their happy-ever-after at the end.

The Jill route is just warm and romantic with minimal real drama or impending doom.
I like to play the Jill route just as a feel-good after playing one of the others.

And the Sage route is also nice and romantic, and as long as you don't mess around with anyone else (like her mom), there isn't much drama or impending doom there either.

Finally the Maya/Josy route has so much upcoming pain between themselves and them and the MC that I find it hard to replay, unlike the others which I replay every now and then.

I have to throw the Zoey route out there as well, I neglected to talk about it in my other post.
I always reject her on the main girl routes - I never cheat on those routes.
But I don't dislike her and don't blame her for still wanting to see what there is with her and the MC.
Even with her telling him that she loves him, he said that first so I think it's understandable that she does say it - even knowing that he has a girlfriend.
So I have one save that I don't romance or do anything with anyone and plan on getting back together with Zoey.
 
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Prove that Sage slept with someone other than MC. Or Lilly for money at the club. Well, unless you send me a screenshot from the game, it didn't happen. Although it's obvious Sage had boyfriends before Chad, but since the game didn't say anything about it, it's not true.
i meant that the fact game tells you(i knew it for Sage. and for Lily and Nicole - found out it from you and bozeman) that all 3 of them were pristine and were waiting for mc, quite funny. And convenient for the players who for some reason need that.

Coz there woudnt be any ntr or cuck-something if Sage was in NORMAL sexual relationships with her BF. Her story just would be more REAL.
Lily - yes, she is a smart former-nerd girl, she could just dance and be unctouchable, but idgaf if she did, coz it was before meeting with mc. (her case most realistic among them 3 though)
Nicole - obviously was making additional services BEFORE mc, if game(dpc) tells otherwise, thats a sweet lie(and idgaf again)
 
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Both are great, and I also love the Jill route.
The Bella route is so good, and seeing her open up and start to heal is good to see.
However, her route has a lot of potential bad stuff that will likely come up and cause pain between her and the MC.
Hopefully they will still get their happy-ever-after at the end.

The Jill route is just warm and romantic with minimal real drama or impending doom.
I like to play the Jill route just as a feel-good after playing one of the others.

And the Sage route is also nice and romantic, and as long as you don't mess around with anyone else (like her mom), there isn't much drama or impending doom there either.

Finally the Maya/Josy route has so much upcoming pain between themselves and them and the MC that I find it hard to replay, unlike the others which I replay every now and then.

I have to throw the Zoey route out there as well, I neglected to talk about it in my other post.
I always reject her on the main girl routes - I never cheat on those routes.
But I don't dislike her and don't blame her for still wanting to see what there is with her and the MC.
Even with her telling him that she loves him, he said that first so I think it's understandable that she does say it - even knowing that he has a girlfriend.
So I have one save that I don't romance or do anything with anyone and plan on getting back together with Zoey.
Yes, I read the theory about the song in the car.
 

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The flashback was two years ago.
Sage is now a senior (4th year) - she graduates in the spring.

But she and Chad were not dating in the flashback.
I initially thought they were but was corrected and rewatched the flashback scene.
She was in her first year as HOT president (her sophomore year).
All the flashback shows is her confirming that the HOTs party with the Alphas and then asking Chad about party planning.
That was part of her job as president.
Chad then ignores her and walks away and she goes after him still talking about planning a party.

The flashback doesn't give any indication to them being together.
There's no way she would have been with Chad for the last two years without any sex.

And we can have some confidence that they have not had sex at all based on their fights.

I think all that points to them only being together for a relatively short amount of time.
You basically discribe a major plothole in the game (of course there are A LOT of them)

But the whole Sage and Chad relationship doesnt make any sense to me. Sage is VERY forward. She wants sex from the start. I cant picture her like this:

Date1: Sage: "Hey Chad, wanna come in?" Chad:"nah iam tired, maybe another day"
Date2: Sage: "god i need a good fuck now" Chad: "nah i have that thing tomorrow, maybe another day"
Date3: Sage: "wanna fuck instead of going out?" Chad: "nah i need my energy to lift weights"

And that goes on for weeks and months??? Nope. Never ever, not with Sage.

And if they were only together for weeks, maybe 2-3 months... why would she stay with him? At the point when MC comes to the college they are already fighting because Sage already found out about an "affair" chad has going on... (the panties she found) So she is kinda fightring for a relationship that is not existent in the first place besides some dates and a kiss here and there? That is totally unbelievable...

If a girl like Sage would find panties from another girl (well, Troy) in the bag of her EARLY boyfriend, in a EARLY relationship that didnt went beyond base 1. She would just drop it and move on...

But she is fighting, is hurt, cries a lot and so on... like she is losing something meaningful. The whole reactions of her shows us that this relationship is not something "fresh" or for a short time... its more shown that this was pretty serious for her and went on a longer time.

As i say... the whole thing doesnt make sense... if its just a short thing, why does she react like the way she does? She acts like she loves him and is very hurt after the breakup. They are even arguing about love. If its such a short relationship like you said, love wouldnt be a topic. Talking about love, but never even had sex?

No matter how i turn this thing around, the whole relationship between Chad and Sage is just unbelievable and doesnt make sense how it went. Chad using her just as a front, and Sage keeping up with that for weeks and months without physical interaction and than crying a river after the breakup over basically nothing? Nope, not buying that. DPC didnt thaught that one through one bit.
 
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Hahn1900

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How long should i wait? I've been replaying this game for how many times now
optimistic guess for a new episode is about september 2026. And yes iam serious, and yes its really a optimistic guess. Development of this episode is about 50% done, and started march 2025, well even a little earlier, because DPC already made some stuff during the DEV cycle for episode 11 to get a headstart for ep 12... so basically... the actual DEV cycle is already running 9 months total at this point... and it will take at least another 9-10 months to finish this episode. Oh and of course... after that, season 4 will come. So if youw ant to know when this game will be complete... something around 2030.
 

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optimistic guess for a new episode is about september 2026. And yes iam serious, and yes its really a optimistic guess. Development of this episode is about 50% done, and started march 2025, well even a little earlier, because DPC already made some stuff during the DEV cycle for episode 11 to get a headstart for ep 12... so basically... the actual DEV cycle is already running 9 months total at this point... and it will take at least another 9-10 months to finish this episode. Oh and of course... after that, season 4 will come. So if youw ant to know when this game will be complete... something around 2030.
Although I'm impatient, after playing the game multiple times made me realize how in depth this game is and it needs a lot of time to make every path works even the side paths. I'm just impatient because there's no AVN like this and i ran out of good AVN to play lol
 

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You basically discribe a major plothole in the game (of course there are A LOT of them)

But the whole Sage and Chad relationship doesnt make any sense to me. Sage is VERY forward. She wants sex from the start. I cant picture her like this:

Date1: Sage: "Hey Chad, wanna come in?" Chad:"nah iam tired, maybe another day"
Date2: Sage: "god i need a good fuck now" Chad: "nah i have that thing tomorrow, maybe another day"
Date3: Sage: "wanna fuck instead of going out?" Chad: "nah i need my energy to lift weights"

And that goes on for weeks and months??? Nope. Never ever, not with Sage.

And if they were only together for weeks, maybe 2-3 months... why would she stay with him? At the point when MC comes to the college they are already fighting because Sage already found out about an "affair" chad has going on... (the panties she found) So she is kinda fightring for a relationship that is not existent in the first place besides some dates and a kiss here and there? That is totally unbelievable...

If a girl like Sage would find panties from another girl (well, Troy) in the bag of her EARLY boyfriend, in a EARLY relationship that didnt went beyond base 1. She would just drop it and move on...

But she is fighting, is hurt, cries a lot and so on... like she is losing something meaningful. The whole reactions of her shows us that this relationship is not something "fresh" or for a short time... its more shown that this was pretty serious for her and went on a longer time.

As i say... the whole thing doesnt make sense... if its just a short thing, why does she react like the way she does? She acts like she loves him and is very hurt after the breakup. They are even arguing about love. If its such a short relationship like you said, love wouldnt be a topic. Talking about love, but never even had sex?

No matter how i turn this thing around, the whole relationship between Chad and Sage is just unbelievable and doesnt make sense how it went. Chad using her just as a front, and Sage keeping up with that for weeks and months without physical interaction and than crying a river after the breakup over basically nothing? Nope, not buying that. DPC didnt thaught that one through one bit.
I think the general explanation here, whether it's good or not, is that Sage has some serious abandonment issues. Her first reaction when she thinks Chad is cheating on her isn't just "what an asshole, fucking some other girl behind my back," it's "what, am I not GOOD enough for him?" She takes it as a personal criticism when things don't work out, which leads me to believe that she internalized any early rough patches and lack of intimacy as just her needing to try harder.

We see a couple of glimpses of it again when she later talks about being adopted and some of the stuff her she goes through with her parents, and how she beats herself up for not being able to help Maya more directly. Sage's childhood has left her with a stunted self image and a need for outside validation. If things are going badly, that's just because she's not good enough and needs to do better. Which is why it hurts her so much to try so hard and still fail to gain Chad's notice. It's likely that he was the one who asked her out, not the other way around, to serve as his beard. So from her perspective, this guy who was totally into her just a short while ago is suddenly totally bored with her and it must be her fault somehow. That's also why she turns to sex with Tremolo so quickly, because seeing how he responds to her charms helps fill that need for validation that she is sexy and is desirable. It's not that she's a sex addict as someone claimed here not long ago, but that she just wants to feel like she's enough.
 

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I think the general explanation here, whether it's good or not, is that Sage has some serious abandonment issues. Her first reaction when she thinks Chad is cheating on her isn't just "what an asshole, fucking some other girl behind my back," it's "what, am I not GOOD enough for him?" She takes it as a personal criticism when things don't work out, which leads me to believe that she internalized any early rough patches and lack of intimacy as just her needing to try harder.

We see a couple of glimpses of it again when she later talks about being adopted and some of the stuff her she goes through with her parents, and how she beats herself up for not being able to help Maya more directly. Sage's childhood has left her with a stunted self image and a need for outside validation. If things are going badly, that's just because she's not good enough and needs to do better. Which is why it hurts her so much to try so hard and still fail to gain Chad's notice. It's likely that he was the one who asked her out, not the other way around, to serve as his beard. So from her perspective, this guy who was totally into her just a short while ago is suddenly totally bored with her and it must be her fault somehow. That's also why she turns to sex with Tremolo so quickly, because seeing how he responds to her charms helps fill that need for validation that she is sexy and is desirable. It's not that she's a sex addict as someone claimed here not long ago, but that she just wants to feel like she's enough.

Yeah of course, being abandoned is a huge thing for her... but to be abandoned, there needs to be a real connection before. Which isnt the case with Chad if its only a "short" thing like Bozeman75 said...

So i say... it was NOT a short thing, the relationship between Sage and Chad was more longterm. Well, depends on what you think is longterm though... so to be precise, i think the relationship went on for at least half a year.

And the discussion was if Chad and Sage ever had Sex... if they would be together half a year, there is no freaking way that this went without sex, no way in hell. If there were no sex between the two, it was only a short thing, and if it was a short thing... Sage is highly overreacting regardless of her background.

Thats the problem i have with the Chad and Sage thing. No matter how you turn it... overall it doesnt make much sense.
 
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