VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Up to EP6 you can influence the affinity through your own play style.
DPC made it clear in its walkthrough that the FakeID decision sets affinity until the end of the game. You can then no longer change them through the way you play.

Except for one cheat mod, which I don't recommend.

but the sense is that ChipLecsap and sorco2003 illustrated above

by playing you accumulate major decisions one way or the other.
At the end of the sixth chapter you are in the situation that if you have always chosen one way, you can no longer be the opposite. if you have always made DIK choices you can no longer be Chick, and the other way around.

but the choice of fake documents is a choice like any other, if you have always made Chick choices up to then, it won't be that choice that turns you into DIK

 

[ChipLecsap]

it is quite a worrying situation...

imagine if we found more choices like the one in chapter 4 further on... how far back would we have to go?

the most conservative and cowardly way would be to play neutrally to avoid bad surprises, but that might not be enough.

Yeah it is, Imagine me, as right before I would fuck Jill, its say: "upsz, despite she liking you, and you being on her path, you thought you could fuck her with dik affinity? You mistaken "

 

[Darkmetal]

The fake ID is the 11. "Major choice" . and you have 11 slice in both dick or chick scale. what he meant is that if you only made for example Dick choices, than this decision this last 11. choice. is the final deal. You seal your fate.

I concur. This is how I interpreted it too.
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Way back, I made a prediction that there will be a total of 23 Affinity choices in the game so that by the end of it, all of us will have a single bar left which is what our MC's personality will be...and I am sticking with that prediction for now.

As Chipslecsap said, choice 11 is significant in that it's the first time where, if we've gone only one way up 'till now, it's a point of no return, as one side of the bar is completely eliminated.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah it is, Imagine me, as right before I would fuck Jill, its say: "upsz, despite she liking you, and you being on her path, you thought you could fuck her with dik affinity? You mistaken "

in which case we'll have a big gathering in Sweden and DPC will give us what Jill refused to give us.

 

[Razrback16]

Up to EP6 you can influence the affinity through your own play style.
DPC made it clear in its walkthrough that the FakeID decision sets affinity until the end of the game. You can then no longer change them through the way you play.

Except for one cheat mod, which I don't recommend.

I took the Ep6 guide notation to mean that if you've made all DIK decisions up to that point, that the fake id decision (if you choose to take it) will effectively lock out affinity movement for you moving forward. There are only so many bars on the meter, so once you make so many decisions favoring one side or the other, your affinity will be "locked in" for the remainder of the game. So with the fake id choice, it's not anymore significant beyond other major decisions with the exception that if you've chosen all DIK choices up to that point, this will be put you at a # of DIK choices versus CHICK that locks the meter. It's just giving the player a friendly warning in case they haven't been tracking things very closely.

 

[felicemastronzo]

My amigos, the past 3 episodes have started with a scene taking place in the past. Episode 4, M&J. Episode 5, Rusty and Tommy. Episode 6, Buddy and Rox.
What do you think episode 7 will open with?

I think there will be a new flashback to cover some other character.

so there's no shortage of choices, and it depends on what the narrative focus of the chapter will be.
it could be Sage and her family problems, it could be Jill and her sister's death, Bella and her marriage but also Tybalt or the Burke family.

 

[akdomino]

no, it does not work that way.
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Like you should read here, this is the FIRST major choice that might... etc etc etc... This choice if deffinitive if all other choices was in the same side... all dik finish de chik affinity, all chik, ends dik affinity.

That's right, this is the first main choice and this affects the MC's affinity until the end of the game. (EP20)

The second main choice can be very different.
Example: Whether Josy / Maya and MC are looking for an apartment off campus or whether MC will switch to the dark side of power and become the drug lord on campus.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Everyone seems to get it except akdomino . You really don't understand or you just trolling

 

[Casmyr]

I think there will be a new flashback to cover some other character.

so there's no shortage of choices, and it depends on what the narrative focus of the chapter will be.
it could be Sage and her family problems, it could be Jill and her sister's death, Bella and her marriage but also Tybalt or the Burke family.

Those are all great ideas for scenes but I feel that there too early for episode 7. I have a feeling that episode 7 will open with a scene between the MC's parents, I just have a feeling because of DPC doing more with Lynette's character model and hopefully it will officially end the 'aunt' theory.

 

[sorco2003]

That's right, this is the first main choice and this affects the MC's affinity until the end of the game. (EP20)

The second main choice can be very different.
Example: Whether Josy / Maya and MC are looking for an apartment off campus or whether MC will switch to the dark side of power and become the drug lord on campus.

no my friend, not what you choose, its matematical progresion. 11 2 11... if you choose 11 major decision in same direction, this affinity its over. no matter if the decision is simple like take a beer or not take a beer. If you have only one bar of that affinity, that affinity desapair.
And, this its not a main choice, this is a major choice, like take Quinn number or fight with Troy.

 

[akdomino]

but the sense is that ChipLecsap and sorco2003 illustrated above

by playing you accumulate major decisions one way or the other.
At the end of the sixth chapter you are in the situation that if you have always chosen one way, you can no longer be the opposite. if you have always made DIK choices you can no longer be Chick, and the other way around.

but the choice of fake documents is a choice like any other, if you have always made Chick choices up to then, it won't be that choice that turns you into DIK

You're right. DPC eliminates the NEUTRAL affinity. You can either have a CHICK or a DIK affinity. This remains until the end of the game.

 

[Arigon]

in which case we'll have a big gathering in Sweden and DPC will give us what Jill refused to give us.

As I piss on his computer as I promised to do now on more than one occasion!

 

[felicemastronzo]

Those are all great ideas for scenes but I feel that there too early for episode 7. I have a feeling that episode 7 will open with a scene between the MC's parents, I just have a feeling because of DPC doing more with Lynette's character model and hopefully it will officially end the 'aunt' theory.

The mystery of Bella sooner or later must be clarified or the character, at least for me, remains unplayable. certainly among the hypotheses that I have made is the most important for the plot, or even, it would have if MC knew about it, but at least it would make us players understand the situation.

The others are just curiosities, but I don't think they'll have much of an impact on the plot (like Maya and Josy's holiday, they gave a background to their story but it wasn't that enlightening).

also a flashback on Lynette and Neil is possible, but for that the diary should be enough

 

[ChipLecsap]

you know something i really like about josy...she wears thong bikinis. yum.

She always wear thong that's one of her best habit. You have no idea how more and more, I start to dislike that in order to be with her I have to sacrifice, so many other things, and that's because Maya is holding her back.
If I could have her sex scene in ep 5 regardless of, maya, if she would spread her legs and show me her thong regardless of maya, etc. I could drop the gender class, and go to, fuck Sarah instead, and also help and fuck quinn.
oh and kiss Lily

 

[akdomino]

no my friend, not what you choose, its matematical progresion. 11 2 11... if you choose 11 major decision in same direction, this affinity its over. no matter if the decision is simple like take a beer or not take a beer. If you have only one bar of that affinity, that affinity desapair.
And, this its not a main choice, this is a major choice, like take Quinn number or fight with Troy.

I agree with you.
My statement is really just that neutrality is over. There will be no more neutrality. The player is tied to one of the two affinities. And that is calculated from the previous style of play.

I notice that we are approaching. I think I wrote a little too much around the bush.

 

[Arigon]

She always wear thong that's one of her best habit. You have no idea how more and more, I start to dislike that in order to be with her I have to sacrifice, so many other things, and that's becasue Maya is holding her back.
If I could have her sex scene in ep 5 regardless of, maya, if she would spread her legs and show me her thong regardless of maya, etc. I could drop the gender class, and go to, fuck Sarah instead, and aslo help and fuck quinn.
oh and kiss Lily

yeah but Gender class lets you have Jade, which of course blocks Josy, which of course makes me sad.

 

[Razrback16]

Everyone seems to get it except akdomino . You really don't understand or you just trolling

lol if he's trolling it's a good one, very convincing.

 

[Meushi]

My statement is really just that neutrality is over. There will be no more neutrality. The player is tied to one of the two affinities. And that is calculated from the previous style of play.

Neutrality isn't over, the code indicates you'll get locked into Neutral if you manage to remain in the Neutral zone for 17 major choices.

Spoiler: def updateAffinity():

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[akdomino]

lol if he's trolling it's a good one, very convincing.

I am not interested in trolling.
I just wanted to illustrate my point and was overwhelmed by the discussion. I should have been more specific from the start.

 

[akdomino]

Neutrality isn't over, the code indicates you'll get locked into Neutral if you manage to remain in the Neutral zone for 17 major choices.

Spoiler: def updateAffinity():

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Impressive. I've never looked at the code before. I derived my statements from the official instructions alone.

But that's interesting. I should look at the code.
I am curious how DPC will implement the neutral branch in the code from EP7 onwards.

I'm glad because the neutral affinity gives multiple options in the game.