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Faenon

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Thanks for update, Dev. Please add textbox opacity slider, if possible. It's too whitish.
Added this and uploaded new version to Itch page, if someone wants to pull in the new version for the downloads?

 

Faenon

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Short Review of Version Ch.3

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Some considerations on the Story SO FAR:

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Peace :)

P.S.: Copied to a Review, minus the Story.
That's great feedback, I'm really thankful you took the time to post this. Absolutely fair comment on the renders, my background is in IT, I started my career as a developer, I do not come from a artistic or photography background. I've frankly been learning on the job regarding Daz and how to render, it's been a fun process and hopefully I am getting a little better. Lighting is a huge development area to for me and even in Chapter 4 it trips me up on occasion.

Like I said I really appreciate this and glad you seemed to have enjoyed it. The story was always the focus and although things will get more adult oriented as the plot unfolds, it is not my intent to have those lewd scene detract from the story however, they are there to augment it.
 

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That's great feedback, I'm really thankful you took the time to post this. Absolutely fair comment on the renders, my background is in IT, I started my career as a developer, I do not come from a artistic or photography background. I've frankly been learning on the job regarding Daz and how to render, it's been a fun process and hopefully I am getting a little better. Lighting is a huge development area to for me and even in Chapter 4 it trips me up on occasion.

Like I said I really appreciate this and glad you seemed to have enjoyed it. The story was always the focus and although things will get more adult oriented as the plot unfolds, it is not my intent to have those lewd scene detract from the story however, they are there to augment it.
I have no objections to adult scenes. But, I m sure you know, how easy it is to cross the line into the kink. Look, I am no prude, I think there's plenty of room to show and enjoy, without devolving into another obsession on the physical expressions. Sure, they are fun. Obviously. But, there's a LOT more to this theme, it's struggles, it's joys, it's difficulties, it's injustices, it's heartbreaking incomprehension, it's loving, it's romancing, it's confusions.... than just a sexual exposition of genitalia...

I'm here to all of that.

As I said... So far, so good.

About the Photography. It is not a quick n' easy thing to learn. For now some rather generic tips could be:
- Lower the center point of your camera shots. (This will make you use more of the TOP of the field, leaving the bottom freer for the text background) Experiment.
- There's no rule that makes you keep the scene centered on the actor. Try playing with that. Just no extremes and not always.
- Posing is improved by observation. Observe people. How they talk, how they move, how they pause for effect, etc... A good source is video, it removes the possible problem of being judged a creep.

Anyway, none of this is instantaneous, ease into it, what you have right now isn't bad. Oh, and don't be afraid to try new things...

Peace :)
 

Faenon

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I have no objections to adult scenes. But, I m sure you know, how easy it is to cross the line into the kink. Look, I am no prude, I think there's plenty of room to show and enjoy, without devolving into another obsession on the physical expressions. Sure, they are fun. Obviously. But, there's a LOT more to this theme, it's struggles, it's joys, it's difficulties, it's injustices, it's heartbreaking incomprehension, it's loving, it's romancing, it's confusions.... than just a sexual exposition of genitalia...

I'm here to all of that.

As I said... So far, so good.

About the Photography. It is not a quick n' easy thing to learn. For now some rather generic tips could be:
- Lower the center point of your camera shots. (This will make you use more of the TOP of the field, leaving the bottom freer for the text background) Experiment.
- There's no rule that makes you keep the scene centered on the actor. Try playing with that. Just no extremes and not always.
- Posing is improved by observation. Observe people. How they talk, how they move, how they pause for effect, etc... A good source is video, it removes the possible problem of being judged a creep.

Anyway, none of this is instantaneous, ease into it, what you have right now isn't bad. Oh, and don't be afraid to try new things...

Peace :)
Happy to take all that advice on board, thanks.

In terms of the story, I've already completed the full story arch, I may deviate slightly from the path on occasion as I add the detailed level of scripting. But you are right to guard against turning it in to merely a fap to fap journey. The plan is for a total of 9 chapters, with a few ups and downs along the way that will hit on those areas you bring up, one thing we have to bear in mind with the story is these are two young adults, they have not got it all figured out yet.
 

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are the two playable characters going to get together? and would that be a choice or something forced? because the sister of the trans playable characters keeps bringing up how their friend has eyes for them and likes them etc. and a different character does the same thing as the sister.
 
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Danv

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dev, colour in character defines doesn't really work, game maybe take place in England, but ren'py - not so much
 

meliv

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No sexual content or choices.
Also didnt notice any animations so maybe fix the tags?
 

Faenon

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are the two playable characters going to get together? and would that be a choice or something forced? because the sister of the trans playable characters keeps bringing up how their friend has eyes for them and likes them etc. and a different character does the same thing as the sister.
I think you will understand that I can not give away any potential storyline here.
 

Faenon

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dev, colour in character defines doesn't really work, game maybe take place in England, but ren'py - not so much
I'm not sure I fully understand the issue here. I use colour very sparingly and I don't think it distracts from anything.
 

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No sexual content or choices.
Also didnt notice any animations so maybe fix the tags?
There is sexual content in the game, as well as an animation (only one so far, I think, and it's unfortunately pretty grainy). But only on the guy POV route. Tags are fine as is, at the moment.
Choices are indeed absent so far, or at least very few.
 

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I'm not sure I fully understand the issue here. I use colour very sparingly and I don't think it distracts from anything.
ren'py uses "color", not "colour"
for example Molly defaults to gui.accent_color, cuz her define doesn't work
 
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There is sexual content in the game, as well as an animation (only one so far, I think, and it's unfortunately pretty grainy). But only on the guy POV route. Tags are fine as is, at the moment.
Choices are indeed absent so far, or at least very few.
Thanks PickleSteve. Yeah, frankly I'm not too happy with that animation it will be redone at some point, just a little low on my priority list at the moment. There are a lot more animations in chapter 4. I tackle them in a slightly different way too, they are not grainy but more simple in the way they work, I think the output is a little better.

One thing I think folks need to remember, is a statement I make pretty early on as you enter the game, "This is a slow burn". The fapping content will not be immediately presented, it's not a game that revolves around that, it's centred very much on the story, that may not be to everyone's tastes.
 
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Faenon

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ren'py uses "color", not "colour"
for example Molly defaults to gui.accent_color, cuz her define doesn't work
OK I will look into that. Good spot, fortunately it's only Molly that I have used the CORRECT spelling of the word, I have fixed it, will package it into a future release.
 
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Danv

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OK I will look into that.
just go through your defines and fix stuff like this -
define molly = Character("Molly", colour = "#920909", image="sideMolly")
you can also fix poor Recptionist along the way -
define salonRecpt = Character("Recptionist", colour = "#920909", image="sideSalonRecpt")
 
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Faenon

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just go through your defines and fix stuff like this -
define molly = Character("Molly", colour = "#920909", image="sideMolly")
you can also fix poor Recptionist along the way -
define salonRecpt = Character("Recptionist", colour = "#920909", image="sideSalonRecpt")
Damn I missed that one too, why can't America spell things correctly, even here in Canada we don't forget about the U's :)

Trudy, Tia and Claire were also in that same camp, fixed them all but again will wait for a future release to update.
 

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Thanks PickleSteve. Yeah, frankly I'm not too happy with that animation it will be redone at some point, just a little low on my priority list at the moment. There are a lot more animations in chapter 4. I tackle them in a slightly different way too, they are not grainy but more simple in the way they work, I think the output is a little better.

One thing I think folks need to remember, is a statement I make pretty early on as you enter the game, "This is a slow burn". The fapping content will not be immediately presented, it's not a game that revolves around that, it's centred very much on the story, that may not be to everyone's tastes.
It's all good, it wasn't my intention to sound negative so sorry if that was the case. To be honest the animation itself was a pleasant surprise, as I wasn't expecting to see an animation at all. As for how it looked, it was maybe not of the best visual quality, but I get that you're learning as you go along so it's totally fine. I would have been fine if there had been a few static renders and no animation yet, it's not necessary IMO, but kudos to you for getting it done. And reading that you aim to improve the animations is great.

This could also be because as you say, at this point I'm more intrigued by the story than anything else. Sure I'm interested to see spicy scenes in the future, but the unfolding story is what will keep me coming back at this point. In my opinion you are doing a great job so far, and I'm eager to see where this will lead to. And a very positive thing, I think, is that you said you have the story completed, or at least the broad strokes, as I find that leads to very little chance of the game meandering aimlessly toward the end.

Keep up the good work and best of luck with the ongoing development, cheers!
 
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