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DS on discord just said that Patreon asked him to remove BB from their site. He can't modify it. He's most likely switching to Glamour to get his site back
 

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He said that next update will be released somewhere (I bet it's here) but I wouldn't be overly optimistic about future of BB. Looks like Glamour site will come in a days.
 
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He said that next update will be released somewhere (I bet it's here) but I wouldn't be overly optimistic about future of BB. Looks like Glamour site will come in a days.
Then he should expect losing a massive amounts of patrons.Most of them are not suporting him for Glamour.
 
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Then he should expect losing a massive amounts of patrons.Most of them are not suporting him for Glamour.
He will lose a lot. That's for sure. But it's still better than dissapearing. It all depends on Glamour's quality as it might be even better than BB. But loss of patrons is unavoidable. I would seriously just release BB here and close it in 1-2 updates as it's not a problem at all. DMD has it more difficult
 

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He will lose a lot. That's for sure. But it's still better than dissapearing. It all depends on Glamour's quality as it might be even better than BB. But loss of patrons is unavoidable. I would seriously just release BB here and close it in 1-2 updates as it's not a problem at all. DMD has it more difficult
I doubt it Glamour can be better than BB.First try wasn't realy that good to be optimist.He admit he don't get incest,but he prove that he don't undersand porn games either.Only good renders don't make the game.Surely they can help but this is porn after all and so far he do it way too softcore.Hell even some series on HBO showing much more.
 

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@dutchpete , it's their platform and they don't want to be represented by this type of content. I don't see what's so hard to understand.
It`s just like MacDonalds dropping hamburgers and deep fried products. You made a name, earned lots of money and suddenly they want to go clean and healthy. I can respect their decision but do not expect me to like it.
I will just frantically roam around to find burgers and fries
 
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As a former conservative myself, most of you fear that mindset without understanding it. Except for the more Jerry Falwell types, most conservatives I talk to understand the war against porn is lost, and tend to take a more libertarian view on it anyway. As long as you don’t try to use their tax money to pay for incest training or incest plays or something, most of them couldn’t care less what you spend your money on.
Most Conservatives I know (and I consider myself a Conservative/Libertarian) don't care much about the Moralistic issues as we are more about the Government doing too much of things it has no business being involved in. That includes who you can marry, what you do with your body and getting involved in issues that we deem not the responsibility of the Government. The problem is the religious right has tagged along onto the conservative ideals as a way to try and reverse the supreme court ruling on Abortion so they can go back to the draconian laws their states had in place before the ruling.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. They've added a "report content" button (...) that you can see even if you're not a patron. This button will be abused by asshats more than it will be used by people who actually are offended (and lets be real, you have to try VERY hard to find this stuff in the first place). This has to be the reason that BB got flagged, and it will continue to happen to other devs as well.
This is most likely what is happening...There are some agenda asshats going around Patreon and targeting games they don't like using the Report feature.
There are legal considerations Patreon needs to take into account. But the truth is only those who SUBSCRIBE to get the games have access to them on their infrastructure. So it should not be any more of a problem than a Porn channel on Cable.
The EU is the real worry here...They tend to be quick to file suits against any Internet company that doesn't follow the strict laws that may exist on any one EU member's books.
 
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I doubt it Glamour can be better than BB.First try wasn't realy that good to be optimist.He admit he don't get incest,but he prove that he don't undersand porn games either.Only good renders don't make the game.Surely they can help but this is porn after all and so far he do it way too softcore.Hell even some series on HBO showing much more.
We didn't see nothing except for a few decent renders. Only concept of old Glamour should remain. When it comes to unusual gameplay mechanics I think DS is really good. He's coding is also on point. His overall lack of design is terrible but this one might be good as it's being developed for months. Might be crap but I think it should be at least decent without any forced content so he can do it his way. Only time will tell
 

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well i hope there will be atleast somekind of ending in BigBrother if he stops the Project? otherwise maybe find a more long lasting soluation instead of patreon


btw jsut was looking around a bit never got this scene? even ive done anythign by now what was possible
 
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I don't think anyone can question that DS can code and render pretty damn well. Where he really lacks is in his story telling. I can't really shit too hard on BB now that he is going to rush an ending, but before this whole fiasco BB was bad for me because of the story, or lack of, a story. I just hope with his new game he can sit down with a story teller and come up with something interesting.
 

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We didn't see nothing except for a few decent renders. Only concept of old Glamour should remain. When it comes to unusual gameplay mechanics I think DS is really good. He's coding is also on point. His overall lack of design is terrible but this one might be good as it's being developed for months. Might be crap but I think it should be at least decent without any forced content so he can do it his way. Only time will tell
Well I hope he don't use the old Glamour ideas for the new game.It was like worst version of Something Unlimited+Glassix with around 30 characters and almost no content for them.Also the grind sometimes wasn't better than BB.
And still he better release somehow Anna and Lisa updates.
 

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For now it looks like he wasn't even sure if MC is going to stay female so it's an early concept for sure. Ann will get her update for sure.
 

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Well, i wonder where the most BB patreons are coming from. I guess the patreons are into incest games and this people knows where they get their stuff, so the most of them might be f95 users! So if DS is clever (and i guess he is) he will put glamour on patreon and will develop BB further. So he gets ne users for Glamour and keep the most old users from BB!

I might sound very optimistic, but well ... i hope the best:)
 

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Nyah, I've been his patron during 0.4. I didn't know shit about this site until someone posted that. Most people aren't really so into adult games to stay on some forums. Moreover tier rewards wouldn't work
 
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But can't DS just have a Patreon page without info about BB, while still post BB on another site? a blog or something. I've seen this idea in other threads, other NSFW developers on Patreon do this.

You just pledge to the author, and then in his own webpage he gives you the download links. the majority of patreons know what he's working on so I don't see why people would cancel their pledges. This way the Patreon only promotes the author, not the game.

Maybe there is a reason why they cannot do as I say, in which case fml
 

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It`s just like MacDonalds dropping hamburgers and deep fried products. You made a name, earned lots of money and suddenly they want to go clean and healthy. I can respect their decision but do not expect me to like it.
I will just frantically roam around to find burgers and fries
Getting rid of several porn game developers, who make incest and underage stuff, will barely make a dent in their plate. Not to mention that those developers will not abandon the platform, they'll just start making something less controversial. So they'll clean the platform at pretty much zero cost.
 
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Copied from discord as i speak ..

Dark Silver-Today at 10:31 PM
anyway, short term plan - to get my patreon page online by any cost. all other actions will follow depends on patreons terms
 
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