Someone clever could have predicted this outcome, as he (intentionally?) did not make any attempt to "hide" incestous parts of his game liike other developers of similar games on Patreon.
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If DS was bored of the game, why turn it into a grindfest and trickle the progress? The games I've enjoyed the most ramped up the action fairly quickly like Research into Corruption, Summertime Saga and Daughter for Dessert. I think contributors shouldn't shy away from moving the pace along at a reasonable pace with the goal of finishing out a game. If they build a loyal base, it'll be about the developer, not a particular game. And since it's a bummer waiting through 3 - 6 months of a new game getting fleshed out, if you're making 25K a month, hire some people and start the new game before the old is done. I had mostly lost interest in BB before this announcement anyway because it seemed clear it had been turned into a cash cow.
- Aug 25, 2017
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- Aug 25, 2017
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I want provide you some example from real life.
You are selling drugs on street, thinking that it was legal. Cops stops you and explain that it's illegal
Will you try to continue selling drugs saying that they are candies or you will stop actual drug selling and switch to something more legal?
Maybe this example will explain my motives for a bit.
You are selling drugs on street, thinking that it was legal. Cops stops you and explain that it's illegal
Will you try to continue selling drugs saying that they are candies or you will stop actual drug selling and switch to something more legal?
Maybe this example will explain my motives for a bit.
They dont get that you are trying to make money for your team. They just want their own needs to be fulfilled. Cant blame that either, but in the end, you are going to have to do whats right for you and thats going to leave some people butthurt in the process. Welcome to life!
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English is not my native language, but I will try to express my opinion, even if it is similar to what has already been said.
Estimating how many sponsors you had and that you have a team to develop the game, not just you alone, you could release updates for more. If you really appreciated your sponsors. But from the side it is clear that they deliberately delayed and this is understandable. Everyone wants a lot of money, for a minimum of work.
You have already offered a lot of option. You could just remake the beginning of the game, and in the remaining scenes only the text that Max is not the son of Anne. And instead of completing all the storylines, you decided to start a new game, more accurately transfer the old, also not completed. And there I am sure you will milk money too. And when the entire storyline goes too far, you will find a way to stop and start something new.
Digital game, this is not a real thing, not as a drug, it can be changed.
If you were alone, without a team, then you could be admired, now, you are throwing everything. I hope you do not do this with Glamor. Otherwise you will be the signs, but in a different direction.
Estimating how many sponsors you had and that you have a team to develop the game, not just you alone, you could release updates for more. If you really appreciated your sponsors. But from the side it is clear that they deliberately delayed and this is understandable. Everyone wants a lot of money, for a minimum of work.
You have already offered a lot of option. You could just remake the beginning of the game, and in the remaining scenes only the text that Max is not the son of Anne. And instead of completing all the storylines, you decided to start a new game, more accurately transfer the old, also not completed. And there I am sure you will milk money too. And when the entire storyline goes too far, you will find a way to stop and start something new.
Digital game, this is not a real thing, not as a drug, it can be changed.
If you were alone, without a team, then you could be admired, now, you are throwing everything. I hope you do not do this with Glamor. Otherwise you will be the signs, but in a different direction.
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And again... I should do this, I should do that...
Milking money? Do you think making money on something is bad or what? Do you expect that people should work for free on adult games? I don't see your point.
And why the hell you demand me to change the whole game? For what? What the point of that? And what the difference with making new game?
Who said that I'm throwing anything at all? We are taking risk as team to make something better that we did before, thats it.
Milking money? Do you think making money on something is bad or what? Do you expect that people should work for free on adult games? I don't see your point.
And why the hell you demand me to change the whole game? For what? What the point of that? And what the difference with making new game?
Who said that I'm throwing anything at all? We are taking risk as team to make something better that we did before, thats it.
DarkSilver, if you make the changes and complete the game you're showing your fan base you're commited to finishing your games no matter what. That goes a long way. Also if you make Big Brother legal you can add it to your portfolio, which can be beneficial later.
I'm not saying you should do it, but it definitely has its benefits.
I'm not saying you should do it, but it definitely has its benefits.
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Why does he have to continue with BB no matter what? He's making a living off of Patreon, he wants to continue to make a living off of Patreon. The fact that you want him to do it and risk everything is incredibly fucked up.
- Aug 25, 2017
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I agree that it will, but can you tell me what do you mean by "finishing"?
I can put "And this is the end" message right now, but I don't believe it makes anyone happy.
I can put "And this is the end" message right now, but I don't believe it makes anyone happy.
- Jun 16, 2017
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Damn that's a lot to take in. While I do agree that people who have played and donated money to BB development should get closure. We must also think how this must be affecting DS, since he has to give up on a project that started his pateron. It must be hard . And I think everyone here needs a to calm down. He will figure something out.
- Aug 27, 2017
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... funny to see how many people still try to give so called good advices to DS, instead of reading the last pages dealing with this topic ... are you too lazy to scroll back an read the posts, or do you ignore that DS and his team needs to earn money? "Money for nothing and chicks for free" is not real life!
Be happy with DS is publishing a modderfriendly version of BB 0.13 for free. That's more than a lot of other dev's else would do!
Be happy with DS is publishing a modderfriendly version of BB 0.13 for free. That's more than a lot of other dev's else would do!
- Aug 20, 2017
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It was clearly an analogy. He's not saying that it couldn't be changed. By the way, drugs can be changed. Cutting drugs is a real thing, it's done to increase the volume to get more money. I get his point, he likes making games. Why should and his team jeopardize what they enjoy doing? And concerning this whole milking thing. Sure, there are a lot of people doing it. I don't believe that is really the case here.
He was putting out a fair amount of updates pretty consistently with decent quality. I challenge you to put a team together, put out twice the content in half the time. It's not as easy as you think it is. To remake just the beginning and changing one character's relation to the other characters isn't good enough. The majority of the other characters are also related. Then they would have to go through all the script to make changes to fit the new relationships.
I'm personally on Dark Silvers' side. Especially this far in. Better to start fresh, then to risk being on Patreons radar. It was fun while it lasted, now it's time to move on. Yes change can be scary. I personally am not into the whole female protagonist in adult games. But then again, I didn't think I would like adult games based on incest.
I'm going to give it a chance. As a matter of fact I'm going the extra mile. As soon as I get some things sorted out, I will become a patron to Dark Silver.
- Nov 1, 2017
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DarkSilver, I guess it's up to you when you're happy with the result. I personally am pretty much ok with anything in this case. I liked Big Brother just as an adult game, brother sister relations aren't even my thing. I'm looking forward to your future adult games.
- Jan 2, 2018
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Dark Silver, I think you should create your own website like Mr.Dots did to DMD. I will definitely donate you through the website cuz I'm a big fan of BB! I think it's better than relying on patreon. Idk just my thought! If there is a problem, there should be solution.
- Jan 2, 2018
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Maybe sell in a country where it's legal? For example, Weed is illegal in other states but you could open a shop and sell legally in Colorado.
We can't compare drugs and adult games, Patreon is not a Federal government to impose laws over the internet, Maybe find something alternative! Idk, I'm a person who never give up things so fast!
- Aug 25, 2017
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It's not a problem. It'll take some time and thats it