Keioshin

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May 4, 2017
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DarkSilver, if you make the changes and complete the game you're showing your fan base you're commited to finishing your games no matter what. That goes a long way. Also if you make Big Brother legal you can add it to your portfolio, which can be beneficial later.

I'm not saying you should do it, but it definitely has its benefits.
Why does he have to continue with BB no matter what? He's making a living off of Patreon, he wants to continue to make a living off of Patreon. The fact that you want him to do it and risk everything is incredibly fucked up.
 

Rising_Hell

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Jun 16, 2017
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Damn that's a lot to take in. While I do agree that people who have played and donated money to BB development should get closure. We must also think how this must be affecting DS, since he has to give up on a project that started his pateron. It must be hard . And I think everyone here needs a to calm down. He will figure something out.
 

bauchnabel

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Aug 27, 2017
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... funny to see how many people still try to give so called good advices to DS, instead of reading the last pages dealing with this topic ... are you too lazy to scroll back an read the posts, or do you ignore that DS and his team needs to earn money? "Money for nothing and chicks for free" is not real life!
Be happy with DS is publishing a modderfriendly version of BB 0.13 for free. That's more than a lot of other dev's else would do!
 

SirLoins

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Aug 20, 2017
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English is not my native language, but I will try to express my opinion, even if it is similar to what has already been said.
Estimating how many sponsors you had and that you have a team to develop the game, not just you alone, you could release updates for more. If you really appreciated your sponsors. But from the side it is clear that they deliberately delayed and this is understandable. Everyone wants a lot of money, for a minimum of work.
You have already offered a lot of option. You could just remake the beginning of the game, and in the remaining scenes only the text that Max is not the son of Anne. And instead of completing all the storylines, you decided to start a new game, more accurately transfer the old, also not completed. And there I am sure you will milk money too. And when the entire storyline goes too far, you will find a way to stop and start something new.
Digital game, this is not a real thing, not as a drug, it can be changed.
If you were alone, without a team, then you could be admired, now, you are throwing everything. I hope you do not do this with Glamor. Otherwise you will be the signs, but in a different direction.
It was clearly an analogy. He's not saying that it couldn't be changed. By the way, drugs can be changed. Cutting drugs is a real thing, it's done to increase the volume to get more money. I get his point, he likes making games. Why should and his team jeopardize what they enjoy doing? And concerning this whole milking thing. Sure, there are a lot of people doing it. I don't believe that is really the case here.

He was putting out a fair amount of updates pretty consistently with decent quality. I challenge you to put a team together, put out twice the content in half the time. It's not as easy as you think it is. To remake just the beginning and changing one character's relation to the other characters isn't good enough. The majority of the other characters are also related. Then they would have to go through all the script to make changes to fit the new relationships.

I'm personally on Dark Silvers' side. Especially this far in. Better to start fresh, then to risk being on Patreons radar. It was fun while it lasted, now it's time to move on. Yes change can be scary. I personally am not into the whole female protagonist in adult games. But then again, I didn't think I would like adult games based on incest.

I'm going to give it a chance. As a matter of fact I'm going the extra mile. As soon as I get some things sorted out, I will become a patron to Dark Silver.
 

Hmaster1

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Jan 29, 2018
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DarkSilver, I guess it's up to you when you're happy with the result. I personally am pretty much ok with anything in this case. I liked Big Brother just as an adult game, brother sister relations aren't even my thing. I'm looking forward to your future adult games.
 

coolboy88

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Jan 2, 2018
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Dark Silver, I think you should create your own website like Mr.Dots did to DMD. I will definitely donate you through the website cuz I'm a big fan of BB! I think it's better than relying on patreon. Idk just my thought! If there is a problem, there should be solution.
 

coolboy88

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Jan 2, 2018
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I want provide you some example from real life.

You are selling drugs on street, thinking that it was legal. Cops stops you and explain that it's illegal
Will you try to continue selling drugs saying that they are candies or you will stop actual drug selling and switch to something more legal?

Maybe this example will explain my motives for a bit.
Maybe sell in a country where it's legal? For example, Weed is illegal in other states but you could open a shop and sell legally in Colorado.

We can't compare drugs and adult games, Patreon is not a Federal government to impose laws over the internet, Maybe find something alternative! Idk, I'm a person who never give up things so fast!
 

SirLoins

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Aug 20, 2017
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Maybe sell in a country where it's legal? For example, Weed is illegal in other states but you could open a shop and sell legally in Colorado.

We can't compare drugs and adult games, Patreon is not a Federal government to impose laws over the internet, Maybe find something alternative! Idk, I'm a person who never give up things so fast!
Patreons rules are the same no matter what country you are in.
 

PinkHead

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Aug 21, 2017
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What if other developers would like to publish a new BB on patreon?
They take over illegal BB and adjust it to legal BB ,so patreon won't ban their page(maybe with secret incest patch).
Sure ,they would make some deals with DS's team first(or not:WutFace:).
Is that ok to share the copyright of BB ,make triple win?:p
 

FXM

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Oct 2, 2017
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@DarkSilver so basically thousands of people was giving you money to support one product and at the first problem your decision was screw this i will not search for options i'm just going to stop but don't worry i will offer you a totally different and completely unrelated product? that is just a big middle finger in the face of every supporter
 

DarkSilver

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Game Developer
Aug 25, 2017
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@DarkSilver so basically thousands of people was giving you money to support one product and at the first problem your decision was screw this i will not search for options i'm just going to stop but don't worry i will offer you a totally different and completely unrelated product? that is just a big middle finger in the face of every supporter
People were giving me money for released. And I did those releases like robot.
And Patreon is not a Kickstarted. I collected money monthly and promised for a monthly releases. Currenly my page says "Glamour" and I'm collecting money for Glamour.
 

Heinz Becker

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Jun 4, 2017
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Guys, you simply can't stop, can you?
Why don't you get the update DS is willing to provide FREE?
The only thing you could achieve by your constant whining is that you piss him off and he won't release it.
Then again you can lament about not getting sex with Ann...

About Glamour, let's see what is coming up, THEN talk about it.
Sometimes it's a kind of kindergarden here.
 

DarkSilver

Member
Game Developer
Aug 25, 2017
152
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Guys, you simply can't stop, can you?
Why don't you get the update DS is willing to provide FREE?
The only thing you could achieve by your constant whining is that you piss him off and he won't release it.
Then again you can lament about not getting sex with Ann...

About Glamour, let's see what is coming up, THEN talk about it.
Sometimes it's a kind of kindergarden here.
Because we are on site with 100500 pirate adult games. People here usually thinking that it how it supposed to be. And my and other gamedevs duty is to provide them new games.
 

FXM

Member
Oct 2, 2017
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Guys, you simply can't stop, can you?
Why don't you get the update DS is willing to provide FREE?
The only thing you could achieve by your constant whining is that you piss him off and he won't release it.
Then again you can lament about not getting sex with Ann...

About Glamour, let's see what is coming up, THEN talk about it.
Sometimes it's a kind of kindergarden here.
FREE? he did not stop the patreon he will charge like every month and release an unfinished product, who cares about Ann? the guy keep adding girls to prolong the milk and now a lot of them will never have a proper story
 
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megadork

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Dec 10, 2017
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People were giving me money for released. And I did those releases like robot.
And Patreon is not a Kickstarted. I collected money monthly and promised for a monthly releases. Currenly my page says "Glamour" and I'm collecting money for Glamour.
Maybe go work on it then.....people are calling you a milker because you took a year to deliver less than a quarter of a 1.0 porn game.

And honestly if you felt like a robot when you worked on it, then you should of called it quits on it a long time ago.
 
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PinkHead

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Aug 21, 2017
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Why are you still wasting your time here?
Don't you want to spend more time in developing Glamour?
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