bacchusplateau

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Summary for the uninformed:
Big Brother is going to be "suspended" after version 0.13 because Patreon changed their policy and incest contents aren't allowed anymore. DS and his team say they will work on the "new" game (which actually an old game that was dropped long ago) called Glamour.

My take on this: DS basically doesn't like the game and use this as an excuse to trash the game completely. Anyone who has some kind of brain will see this.

Why? Just look at this at the top of f95:



Other games' devs are still making their games with incest-free on Patreon and release a patch to restore the incest content, which is really really easy and simple task to do. DS somehow doesn't do this, instead, he is dropping the game completely?

To say he is "forced" to suspend the game is plain ignorance. He knows he hates the game and he just takes the opportunity Patreon gave him to drop the game for good without looking bad in front of thousands of his subscribers.
Fake News!

This is what fake news truly means. You put up a banner claiming to be a 'Summary for the uniformed' when in all reality, you need more information for yourself.

To get you up to speed, yes, for now, BB will be put on the back burner because of a crackdown on DS about incest - DS words, not mine. This isn't a new crackdown but DS has gotten swept up in this current wave. It appears these hits on developers come on the heels of dissatisfied patrons or other 'warriors' that hide behind their computer screens because they feel empowered to be the cyber 'vigilante'.

As for your 'Lewd Patcher' point, Sherlock, yes we know this has been a route that developers are taking, but it appears that Patreon knows, or probably more acturately, the cowardly cyber vigilantes point out how developers are circumventing Patreon rules. As for earlier comments about just adding the word 'step' to the relation, that all would be all good, but my gods, this has been discussed to death earlier. As far as Patreon sees it, still no good - I know LightAngels, you didn't suggest this but it amazes me that others still think that this is a viable option. Mr Dots was told by Patreon that all reference to DmD and associated art had to be taken down. I can understand if DS sees that the current statis quo is no longer viable and honestly fears for his revenue steam.

In case you aren't aware, others have been adding to the conversation by pointing to other platforms to host these developers that is similar to the Patreon model. One that has been argued about over is Hatreon and another one called MakerSupport. While Hatreon is obvious, both are outlets appear to be created to help 'right' wing commentaries to be available to those who want access to them - apparently Youtube and other platforms are cutting off their access. Is this the day when developers need to lay down with the nazis because they, the developers, are rounded up by the morality police? Maybe...that would be an excellent discussion in my opinion.

As for your informed opinion that, 'DS is lazy, hates his game, was looking for any excuse to drop because he lost interest,' well that's your opinion, and welcome to the flock, sheep. Go back the past 30 pages or so, and I would guesstimate that about 1 in 3 posts before your's said roughly the same thing.

I apologize to everyone, including the mods watching this thread who are probably just itching to tell everyone to shut-up already. My piece is done. I'll just go back to lurking in the background...
 

SuA

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Fake News!

This is what fake news truly means. You put up a banner claiming to be a 'Summary for the uniformed' when in all reality, you need more information for yourself.

To get you up to speed, yes, for now, BB will be put on the back burner because of a crackdown on DS about incest - DS words, not mine. This isn't a new crackdown but DS has gotten swept up in this current wave. It appears these hits on developers come on the heels of dissatisfied patrons or other 'warriors' that hide behind their computer screens because they feel empowered to be the cyber 'vigilante'.

As for your 'Lewd Patcher' point, Sherlock, yes we know this has been a route that developers are taking, but it appears that Patreon knows, or probably more acturately, the cowardly cyber vigilantes point out how developers are circumventing Patreon rules. As for earlier comments about just adding the word 'step' to the relation, that all would be all good, but my gods, this has been discussed to death earlier. As far as Patreon sees it, still no good - I know LightAngels, you didn't suggest this but it amazes me that others still think that this is a viable option. Mr Dots was told by Patreon that all reference to DmD and associated art had to be taken down. I can understand if DS sees that the current statis quo is no longer viable and honestly fears for his revenue steam.

In case you aren't aware, others have been adding to the conversation by pointing to other platforms to host these developers that is similar to the Patreon model. One that has been argued about over is Hatreon and another one called MakerSupport. While Hatreon is obvious, both are outlets appear to be created to help 'right' wing commentaries to be available to those who want access to them - apparently Youtube and other platforms are cutting off their access. Is this the day when developers need to lay down with the nazis because they, the developers, are rounded up by the morality police? Maybe...that would be an excellent discussion in my opinion.

As for your informed opinion that, 'DS is lazy, hates his game, was looking for any excuse to drop because he lost interest,' well that's your opinion, and welcome to the flock, sheep. Go back the past 30 pages or so, and I would guesstimate that about 1 in 3 posts before your's said roughly the same thing.

I apologize to everyone, including the mods watching this thread who are probably just itching to tell everyone to shut-up already. My piece is done. I'll just go back to lurking in the background...
LOL people like you are the one who is "cyber vigilantes"....

I literally said in my post "My take on this", which is a 100% personal opinion based view. And when something is personal opinion, it can be translated by readers based on their views of the situation. It was never meant to be facts, hence "personal opinion". Then you start writing an essay with words like "fake news", "sherlock", "uninformed", "informed" to mock me? And phrase your post to make my post sounds like I am writing it as facts so you have to chime in and write the real truth? You are the one who is acting like the cyber people who sits behind computer and mock people just like you state in your post.

Cheer.
 

JasonJemodah

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Nov 10, 2017
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Fake News!

This is what fake news truly means. You put up a banner claiming to be a 'Summary for the uniformed' when in all reality, you need more information for yourself.

To get you up to speed, yes, for now, BB will be put on the back burner because of a crackdown on DS about incest - DS words, not mine. This isn't a new crackdown but DS has gotten swept up in this current wave. It appears these hits on developers come on the heels of dissatisfied patrons or other 'warriors' that hide behind their computer screens because they feel empowered to be the cyber 'vigilante'.

As for your 'Lewd Patcher' point, Sherlock, yes we know this has been a route that developers are taking, but it appears that Patreon knows, or probably more acturately, the cowardly cyber vigilantes point out how developers are circumventing Patreon rules. As for earlier comments about just adding the word 'step' to the relation, that all would be all good, but my gods, this has been discussed to death earlier. As far as Patreon sees it, still no good - I know LightAngels, you didn't suggest this but it amazes me that others still think that this is a viable option. Mr Dots was told by Patreon that all reference to DmD and associated art had to be taken down. I can understand if DS sees that the current statis quo is no longer viable and honestly fears for his revenue steam.

In case you aren't aware, others have been adding to the conversation by pointing to other platforms to host these developers that is similar to the Patreon model. One that has been argued about over is Hatreon and another one called MakerSupport. While Hatreon is obvious, both are outlets appear to be created to help 'right' wing commentaries to be available to those who want access to them - apparently Youtube and other platforms are cutting off their access. Is this the day when developers need to lay down with the nazis because they, the developers, are rounded up by the morality police? Maybe...that would be an excellent discussion in my opinion.

As for your informed opinion that, 'DS is lazy, hates his game, was looking for any excuse to drop because he lost interest,' well that's your opinion, and welcome to the flock, sheep. Go back the past 30 pages or so, and I would guesstimate that about 1 in 3 posts before your's said roughly the same thing.

I apologize to everyone, including the mods watching this thread who are probably just itching to tell everyone to shut-up already. My piece is done. I'll just go back to lurking in the background...
Well said.
 

armion82

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Mar 28, 2017
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DMD was doing that, and then it got the hammer, too. I think it's going to depend on how high-profile the dev is and how many people want to go looking for stuff to report to Patreon's Trust and Safety team.
Actualy he didn't do that.He put the way to restore the incest in the game itself,not in another server.Not to mention he explain how to do it.
 

Asphyx

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Jun 11, 2017
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Well, for the first thing you quoted me on. I know he said himself in this thread we are getting 0.13 and we are sleeping with the mom.

As for the second thing you quoted me on. To be fair I did say SEEMS LIKE, implying I'm not 100% sure about that. But hey, now I know.

EDIT: I did not mean for the foot in mouth comment to come across as hostile as it did. So I believe a apology is in order. Sorry.
Then I too will apologize for coming at you the way I did!

Yes he is releasing the work he has for the most part completed. And I applaud him for that. My only criticism is that he did seem to give up rather easily. Most Authors of story I know are so committed to the story that they find other venues to finish their story even in the face of cancellation by a network. (Think of a show getting cancelled on NBC and moving to Netflix.)

He is now going back to a game he previously abandoned!
It tends to show a pattern that he doesn't always complete what he starts. That is a bad reputation for a developer to have as bad as a Contractor who starts but never finishes the remodeling job he started.
And people who might patronize will most likely take that into account.

If DS was bored of the game, why turn it into a grindfest and trickle the progress? The games I've enjoyed the most ramped up the action fairly quickly like Research into Corruption, Summertime Saga and Daughter for Dessert. I think contributors shouldn't shy away from moving the pace along at a reasonable pace with the goal of finishing out a game. If they build a loyal base, it'll be about the developer, not a particular game. And since it's a bummer waiting through 3 - 6 months of a new game getting fleshed out, if you're making 25K a month, hire some people and start the new game before the old is done. I had mostly lost interest in BB before this announcement anyway because it seemed clear it had been turned into a cash cow.
One word....MONEY!

I want provide you some example from real life.

You are selling drugs on street, thinking that it was legal. Cops stops you and explain that it's illegal
Will you try to continue selling drugs saying that they are candies or you will stop actual drug selling and switch to something more legal?

Maybe this example will explain my motives for a bit.
Bad Analogy I'm afraid....
Better would be:
Gambling is Illegal in New York State and they close your casino, so you need to move the Casino to Nevada where there are no rules against gambling!

Or if you want to stick with the drug motif, Selling Pot in New York is illegal, but if you move your operations to Colorado or Washington you can continue to sell your product.

What is really odd about your decision is it is easier to make your own site than it is to re-write the game to fit Patreon's guidelines. But you have only seemed to consider re-writing vs abandonment.

And it looks bad considering your fallback option is going back to re-write some other game you abandoned previously.
 
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The game is good, though I have to say, that I don't like two things:
-Time consuming grinding/awaiting time (I think that the second option is more annoying to me)
-I feel like the renders (even though their quality is really good) are lacking in some parts. Like there should be more focus on the characters and their body parts. For example, when character is fucking Alice in the ass, while shooting a porn scene, I would like to see the action closely, from different perspective. I could say, that in this matter, the renders from some mods are somewhat superior.
 

gestved

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Fake News!

This is what fake news truly means. You put up a banner claiming to be a 'Summary for the uniformed' when in all reality, you need more information for yourself.

To get you up to speed, yes, for now, BB will be put on the back burner because of a crackdown on DS about incest - DS words, not mine. This isn't a new crackdown but DS has gotten swept up in this current wave. It appears these hits on developers come on the heels of dissatisfied patrons or other 'warriors' that hide behind their computer screens because they feel empowered to be the cyber 'vigilante'.

As for your 'Lewd Patcher' point, Sherlock, yes we know this has been a route that developers are taking, but it appears that Patreon knows, or probably more acturately, the cowardly cyber vigilantes point out how developers are circumventing Patreon rules. As for earlier comments about just adding the word 'step' to the relation, that all would be all good, but my gods, this has been discussed to death earlier. As far as Patreon sees it, still no good - I know LightAngels, you didn't suggest this but it amazes me that others still think that this is a viable option. Mr Dots was told by Patreon that all reference to DmD and associated art had to be taken down. I can understand if DS sees that the current statis quo is no longer viable and honestly fears for his revenue steam.

In case you aren't aware, others have been adding to the conversation by pointing to other platforms to host these developers that is similar to the Patreon model. One that has been argued about over is Hatreon and another one called MakerSupport. While Hatreon is obvious, both are outlets appear to be created to help 'right' wing commentaries to be available to those who want access to them - apparently Youtube and other platforms are cutting off their access. Is this the day when developers need to lay down with the nazis because they, the developers, are rounded up by the morality police? Maybe...that would be an excellent discussion in my opinion.

As for your informed opinion that, 'DS is lazy, hates his game, was looking for any excuse to drop because he lost interest,' well that's your opinion, and welcome to the flock, sheep. Go back the past 30 pages or so, and I would guesstimate that about 1 in 3 posts before your's said roughly the same thing.

I apologize to everyone, including the mods watching this thread who are probably just itching to tell everyone to shut-up already. My piece is done. I'll just go back to lurking in the background...
it's not fake news since he put it as his opinion, what he said under "Summary for the uniformed" is actually accurate

after the summary, he literally say "my take on this:". So everything after he says that is his opinion and he is entitled to it
 

a1fox3

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guys after the first scene with the aunt when the family go shopping i did it but i can't talk to the aunt anymore after it
like they went shopping again and i couldn't talk to her to get the surprise she talked about
any fix or help ?
Wrong thread, for game play question go here:
 

FXM

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Oct 2, 2017
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BB is failed project. DS knows that. He may earn a lot of $$$ on this game, but he is not idiot. Game is crap and need to be trashed.
AGREE
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I seriously doubt @DarkSilver really understand why people did not like to see Ann fucked by Eric or why people wanted romance with Lisa or why we did not like Alice acting like a bitch. He promised "The best incest game ever" and delivered Cuck, Blackmail and Corruption with a little taste if incest.

But his new game will be about something he really likes and understand he will easily take the place of "Lilly of the valley" "A wife and Mother" "Good girl gone Bad" etc.. that is good news for people that like that kind of games.
 

booforyou

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BB is failed project. DS knows that. He may earn a lot of $$$ on this game, but he is not idiot. Game is crap and need to be trashed.
do you realize how much money they were making? you can say alot of things about it, but it was making some serious cash.


Go look at messages by popular game and see what game is absolutely destroying every other game. Love when people talk out of their ass.
 

NightShadeX

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It is just a porn game...good porn game..everyone is upset or mad on the incest/Patreon issues. I think it is better than to talk about it than talk about Trump policies. So rant (REEEEEEEEE!!!) on friends. Also, when is the next release? in a few days or years?
 

Shiva0067

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Sep 3, 2017
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So guess this means we'll never go balls deep into Ann
FeelsBadMan
There is going to be an update on Fri. the 2nd according to DS. That update is FOCUSED on Ann/Mom DS has said that YES we get sex with her AND there are repeatable scenes. So hold on till after that and then we will all go thru the pain of loss together. :)

Just a thought.
 

Dostojevski

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Something just came to me.. So DS is making another game? With the female protagonist and some lesbo action in the first plan? So that's where i remembered that hes just after the money. Just look up the most popular searches on porn sites. Just google the statistics. Lesbian is by far most popular tag in the US,Canada and Australia (all rich countries)! Anal is in Europe and Russia, Great Britain BBC lol, BBW (i don't even want to know why) in some African countries ect,so his preferred audience is NA continent and maybe Australia. And you know something else? Milf and taboo content was most popular around the time BB 0.1 was released. I remember it. It was in russian language i think, and you could only spy on girls in the shower. This kinda content is still popular, but most of regular porn sites don't allow it, and now patreon too as you know it already, so this content kinda gets showed under the carpet. But lesbo shit is okey. They don't wanna be homphobes, god forbid. So basically fuck the fans, fuck the professionalism, fuck everything! Lets just jump to the next best thing (or even better) and start from scratch. And read the comments on his new game. Nobody wants to play it! Well not his old BB followers at least. And there you can actually get that he doesn't actually care! He wants new ones! New, bigger community of lesbo loving people free to milk. This kind of jumping ships is just so transparent and ridiculous. I don't really blame him tho.. He cant even admit it, can he now? I just piss on some of his fanboys trying to explain to me and the rest of community how this is all fine and dandy one way or the other. Well its not! It all stinks of shit! This could be all avoided, but there is bigger money elsewhere for less work and bother. So excuse my french, but screw you guys for trying to sugarcoat it!
 
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