r0x0r

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BB is failed project. DS knows that. He may earn a lot of $$$ on this game, but he is not idiot. Game is crap and need to be trashed.
Well done said, and I'm pretty sure DS knows that - abandoning project easier than dive into the story complexity

he want to do this but it takes time
Oh man and you actually believe this :)

I can assure you setting up a host with maximum security will take me like 5 -6 minutes, but as CobraPL said its a shitty project and DS (deep inside of him knows that).

@DS let me offer you this as a courtesy from my side:
- VPS - for life :)
- Unlimited traffic and we can help you with website development

if you have like zero interest in completing this project we will support you.
 
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JasonJemodah

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I can assure you setting up a host with maximum security will take me like 5 -6 minutes
That's not the problem, DS has said that himself. The problem is finding a payment processor that allows adult content and DS is still looking for one that's good.
 

Alfius

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So what’s happening? Is big brother cancelled? Will it be continued sometime in the future? Will he do what Mr.Dots did and make his own website? Will he release one last update?
Not Cancelled, but suspended until alternative means of funding found.
DS said it will be continued in the future. (Meaning he will not slap Finnish on the next release)
He will release the next update in 2? days time.
 

lol889

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"Big Brother is going to be frozen and 0.13 is going to be considered a final version of the game for now. We may continue BB development if we find an alternative to Patreon." he said this on discord
 

xWhiteNinjax

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hey guys, stick to the facts... not to "wellwishing" or "imagination what could be"... DS is NOT going to a NEW project, but to an old abandonned project he was working at years before... and if you see the new/old project you see what he is able to to do... the game is not playable, has no concept, is a bad copy of others, has no gui to play at a decent resolution... (and he is claiming, it was his favourite game he loves to work for... the result speaks for itself)

the new website on patreon is like a modern fairy-story... promises, that something will be done.. .nice looking pics of some girls... and then... hey... the claim between the lines...give us time to proof, that we can do it...

all will be better in the (sex-)gaming universe... new game is coming... this will be fact...(and yes, without "Glamour" this will be true, too)

without beating on the bush or someone... there will be always different minds/ways/believes what could be done, played and payed for.. .such is life... the best products I know are not done with running behind every opinions, but stick to a theme and try to deliver the best one can do for it (look at someone like Tolkien who worked decades to give us "lord of the rings"... to remain in the sexual universe... hugh hepner... an idea will not become money over night... it has to put work into it)... so it is not our part to write the story of BB (but you are welcome if you will write a book, parody or other stuff about it), we are consumers... and yes... the game is playing inside OUR heads, imagination (the proof is the ongoing emotion, here)... so DS has become wellknown for a short time and maybe something good will come out of this whole affair... this will be the future (and not known to anyone)...

even if I sound bitter... the experience with the game was a welcome one... the "handling" about it is it, what is not my liking... and that is not only on part of DS or patreon.. it involves this forum, too... it is always black or white... (ok, there are intentions to provide help, fix bugs and so on... this is very welcomed and therfore I love this forum) I am looking at the "discussion-part" what would best described as a flame-war... "wellinformed-people" proclaiming they know the way to the holy grail... again.. stick to facts... believings are common in religions.. . this is a (sex-)game... not life
 
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Storm4n

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So the game is dead? that's just sad. Every game that becomes popular makes every single dev a lazy ass twat.

Truth is if you're making 4 to 5 figures EACH month you MUST put some extra effort and deliver an even better product, as it is now the game plain sucks and this guy got thousands of dollars out of everyone for some mediocre stuff that won't be even finished.

As a side note I always support these games with small quantites up to the value of a normal game (€20 to €40) I ain't supporting €10 bucks each month for 2 years for an unfinished game, that's €200 bucks! that's how these guys make $25k each month and deliver sad results.
 
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JIT

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Some pages back DS told us that he was finishing the game just right and then. Can we expect an earlier release date (before 2 feb)? I'm not following him on discord so I don't know if he said something about that.
 

Ignazzio

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hey guys, stick to the facts... not to "wellwishing" or "imagination what could be"... DS is NOT going to a NEW project, but to an old abandonned project he was working at years before... and if you see the new/old project you see what he is able to to do... the game is not playable, has no concept, is a bad copy of others, has no gui to play at a decent resolution... (and he is claiming, it was his favourite game he loves to work for... the result speaks for itself)
New Glamour is a completely redone version of previous one so I wouldn't really judge on a basis of game he made years ago. When it comes to UI and playability he has proven to be on point with BB. It's hard to say anything for now about Glamour. It might be extremally good or bad. Better for us if it's good
 
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xWhiteNinjax

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@Ignazzio if you are right, then I will apologize for it... everyone is learning and if the game is rewritten with new concept, skills then maybe it will be worth looking at... I am not saying it can not be done, I am looking at what was delivered ... the future is not known to me, too..
 

Ignazzio

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@Ignazzio if you are right, then I will apologize for it... everyone is learning and if the game is rewritten with new concept, skills then maybe it will be worth looking at... I am not saying it can not be done, I am looking at what was delivered ... the future is not known to me, too..
Only DS knows the truth. We can wait and judge when future will come
 

SuA

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Summary for the uninformed:
Big Brother is going to be "suspended" after version 0.13 because Patreon changed their policy and incest contents aren't allowed anymore. DS and his team say they will work on the "new" game (which actually an old game that was dropped long ago) called Glamour.

My take on this: DS basically doesn't like the game and use this as an excuse to trash the game completely. Anyone who has some kind of brain will see this.

Why? Just look at this at the top of f95:



Other games' devs are still making their games with incest-free and release a patch to restore the incest content, which is really really easy and simple task to do. DS somehow doesn't do this, instead, he is dropping the game completely?

To say he is "forced" to suspend the game is plain ignorance. He knows he hates the game and he just takes the opportunity Patreon gave him to drop the game for good without looking bad in front of thousands of his subscribers.

Edit: My point is, there are many other alternative solutions for this. Other devs are still making their games either on Patreon on other sites. Only DS drops his.
 

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Other games' devs are still making their games with incest-free on Patreon and release a patch to restore the incest content, which is really really easy and simple task to do. DS somehow doesn't do this, instead, he is dropping the game completely?
DMD was doing that, and then it got the hammer, too. I think it's going to depend on how high-profile the dev is and how many people want to go looking for stuff to report to Patreon's Trust and Safety team.
 

Meduzko

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Other games' devs are still making their games with incest-free on Patreon and release a patch to restore the incest content, which is really really easy and simple task to do. DS somehow doesn't do this, instead, he is dropping the game completely?
Dating my daughter dev left Patreon because of his policy, you're the one who is not willing to see. Why would DS throw Big Brother, game that gives him a lot of profit? He will only lose his patrons because of that.
Reading your comment is giving me a headache.
 

fr34ky

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I wonder how much of that monthly patreon money actually arrives to the devs, I mean, in my country with 10k a month you are considered highly paid, and things here are more expensive than in USA, food, clothing, etc. I'd never stop doing this stuff if I was getting the money they do, so this devs get rich or what ?
 

SuA

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Dating my daughter dev left Patreon because of his policy, you're the one who is not willing to see. Why would DS throw Big Brother, game that gives him a lot of profit? He will only lose his patrons because of that.
Reading your comment is giving me a headache.
I am not saying it is the best way to handle things, my point is that other devs are still making their game, either on Patreon with patches or some other sites. Only DS drops his game.
 
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Meduzko

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I am not saying it is the best way to handle things, my point is that other devs are still making their game, either on Patreon with patches or some other sites. Only DS drops his game.
Also irredeemable had to remake his game with no incest and pils because of the patreon policy.
 

bacchusplateau

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Summary for the uninformed:
Big Brother is going to be "suspended" after version 0.13 because Patreon changed their policy and incest contents aren't allowed anymore. DS and his team say they will work on the "new" game (which actually an old game that was dropped long ago) called Glamour.

My take on this: DS basically doesn't like the game and use this as an excuse to trash the game completely. Anyone who has some kind of brain will see this.

Why? Just look at this at the top of f95:



Other games' devs are still making their games with incest-free on Patreon and release a patch to restore the incest content, which is really really easy and simple task to do. DS somehow doesn't do this, instead, he is dropping the game completely?

To say he is "forced" to suspend the game is plain ignorance. He knows he hates the game and he just takes the opportunity Patreon gave him to drop the game for good without looking bad in front of thousands of his subscribers.
Fake News!

This is what fake news truly means. You put up a banner claiming to be a 'Summary for the uniformed' when in all reality, you need more information for yourself.

To get you up to speed, yes, for now, BB will be put on the back burner because of a crackdown on DS about incest - DS words, not mine. This isn't a new crackdown but DS has gotten swept up in this current wave. It appears these hits on developers come on the heels of dissatisfied patrons or other 'warriors' that hide behind their computer screens because they feel empowered to be the cyber 'vigilante'.

As for your 'Lewd Patcher' point, Sherlock, yes we know this has been a route that developers are taking, but it appears that Patreon knows, or probably more acturately, the cowardly cyber vigilantes point out how developers are circumventing Patreon rules. As for earlier comments about just adding the word 'step' to the relation, that all would be all good, but my gods, this has been discussed to death earlier. As far as Patreon sees it, still no good - I know LightAngels, you didn't suggest this but it amazes me that others still think that this is a viable option. Mr Dots was told by Patreon that all reference to DmD and associated art had to be taken down. I can understand if DS sees that the current statis quo is no longer viable and honestly fears for his revenue steam.

In case you aren't aware, others have been adding to the conversation by pointing to other platforms to host these developers that is similar to the Patreon model. One that has been argued about over is Hatreon and another one called MakerSupport. While Hatreon is obvious, both are outlets appear to be created to help 'right' wing commentaries to be available to those who want access to them - apparently Youtube and other platforms are cutting off their access. Is this the day when developers need to lay down with the nazis because they, the developers, are rounded up by the morality police? Maybe...that would be an excellent discussion in my opinion.

As for your informed opinion that, 'DS is lazy, hates his game, was looking for any excuse to drop because he lost interest,' well that's your opinion, and welcome to the flock, sheep. Go back the past 30 pages or so, and I would guesstimate that about 1 in 3 posts before your's said roughly the same thing.

I apologize to everyone, including the mods watching this thread who are probably just itching to tell everyone to shut-up already. My piece is done. I'll just go back to lurking in the background...
 

SuA

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Fake News!

This is what fake news truly means. You put up a banner claiming to be a 'Summary for the uniformed' when in all reality, you need more information for yourself.

To get you up to speed, yes, for now, BB will be put on the back burner because of a crackdown on DS about incest - DS words, not mine. This isn't a new crackdown but DS has gotten swept up in this current wave. It appears these hits on developers come on the heels of dissatisfied patrons or other 'warriors' that hide behind their computer screens because they feel empowered to be the cyber 'vigilante'.

As for your 'Lewd Patcher' point, Sherlock, yes we know this has been a route that developers are taking, but it appears that Patreon knows, or probably more acturately, the cowardly cyber vigilantes point out how developers are circumventing Patreon rules. As for earlier comments about just adding the word 'step' to the relation, that all would be all good, but my gods, this has been discussed to death earlier. As far as Patreon sees it, still no good - I know LightAngels, you didn't suggest this but it amazes me that others still think that this is a viable option. Mr Dots was told by Patreon that all reference to DmD and associated art had to be taken down. I can understand if DS sees that the current statis quo is no longer viable and honestly fears for his revenue steam.

In case you aren't aware, others have been adding to the conversation by pointing to other platforms to host these developers that is similar to the Patreon model. One that has been argued about over is Hatreon and another one called MakerSupport. While Hatreon is obvious, both are outlets appear to be created to help 'right' wing commentaries to be available to those who want access to them - apparently Youtube and other platforms are cutting off their access. Is this the day when developers need to lay down with the nazis because they, the developers, are rounded up by the morality police? Maybe...that would be an excellent discussion in my opinion.

As for your informed opinion that, 'DS is lazy, hates his game, was looking for any excuse to drop because he lost interest,' well that's your opinion, and welcome to the flock, sheep. Go back the past 30 pages or so, and I would guesstimate that about 1 in 3 posts before your's said roughly the same thing.

I apologize to everyone, including the mods watching this thread who are probably just itching to tell everyone to shut-up already. My piece is done. I'll just go back to lurking in the background...
LOL people like you are the one who is "cyber vigilantes"....

I literally said in my post "My take on this", which is a 100% personal opinion based view. And when something is personal opinion, it can be translated by readers based on their views of the situation. It was never meant to be facts, hence "personal opinion". Then you start writing an essay with words like "fake news", "sherlock", "uninformed", "informed" to mock me? And phrase your post to make my post sounds like I am writing it as facts so you have to chime in and write the real truth? You are the one who is acting like the cyber people who sits behind computer and mock people just like you state in your post.

Cheer.
 
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