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Yes each update is the full game only but you can use your save games for V.13 if you want to.
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- Nov 25, 2017
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Personally I think it was the right choice to have the game on hold rather than remake it. Only thing that I don't share is that in his next game he changed to a female MC, I think it would have been better to continue being a boy...
I'm just hoping that an alternative appears soon, I have heard of
The game itself at this point is quite good, perhaps it would have been better to explore more the character of the aunt and Eric is an undeveloped character and the game is a bit grindy/luck based, but it can be enjoyed and I will still hope that someday he takes this project back.
I'm just hoping that an alternative appears soon, I have heard of
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but it isn't done yet.The game itself at this point is quite good, perhaps it would have been better to explore more the character of the aunt and Eric is an undeveloped character and the game is a bit grindy/luck based, but it can be enjoyed and I will still hope that someday he takes this project back.
- Mar 28, 2017
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We understand that.But he make something like 350K $ so far from BB.Do you seriously believe that is not enought to finish the game even if he don't get anymore money for BB?
A few thoughts about that money thing:
- Making money is not a bad thing
- DS doesn't make people pay him, they do it without any force and only as long as they want
- Patreon makes DS stopping Big Brother NOW
- If he wants to continue it, he will need TIME to figure out how to do that without Patreon on his trail
- He assembled a team and has to pay them NOW
- So he has to make money NOW before they are scattered
- So he needs some way of Patreon-compatibility to continue his work at all NOW
- If he finds a way to provide BB in the future, he can do it THEN
- But to go on he needs an at least temporary solution NOW
I'm sure there will be a solution for this "instead of Patreon" problem for all ass-kicked developers, but it will take time. So we should act like adults and give DS and the others the opportunity to sort it out while having their teams operational.
And if someone still wants to go the "Mommy, the bad uncle took my toy away" path, anyone could still stop pledging. No (more) harm done.
In the meantime, literally everyone could do stories in the BB-verse, so do them if you can't wait!
Why not? Go the Farscape or Firefly path! Let's have "Big Brother - The Movie" or "Big Brother - The Virginkeeper wars". Sorry, got carried away.
Folks, no one is dying, no one is hurt, it's a game, let's have fun not anger.
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- Nov 10, 2017
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You need to realise that that 350k you're naming is divided over 4 people. Then the living costs and other costs for a year get deducted. Then you have what's left of what DS has made in a year. It isn't 350k pure profit for DS.
- Jun 2, 2017
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Now that ann got sexed up big brother can truly end. @DarkSilver just has to make one final update where lisa loses her virginity and maybe has a small quest with kira.theit will only take a month to develop and it will be a farewell from the family
Sex with Ann/Mother. Lots of it, all over the house, several times a day.
Even Alice gets to partake.
For a more comprehensive listing... download and play!
- Jul 23, 2017
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Hey
Oh boy, this whole money conversation and "I'm entitled to" standpoint is becoming ridiculous. The bashing and counter bashing is not needed at all. It's all about understanding, what Patreon is all about and what Patreon is not about.
Patreon is not about: Raising money to make a full product available to the backers. At any point, really, and that is important to understand.
Patreon is all about: Tipping the developer monthly and get tiered "perks" (or whatever) in return for that particular month's pledge. No more and no less.
The reason behind pledging should always be: I like what you're doing and I'll like to throw you some monetary support, this month, and maybe also the next - who knows.
No one is "entitled" to anything beyond what they get for that particular month, that they pledge their money. How much you decide to pledge is on you, the pledger. No one is forcing anyone to give more, than they are comfortable with.
I supported DS in the past, several times, but when I saw were BB was going I stopped. No need to throw money at something that you're not happy with.
And quite frankly: What's it to anyone, what a developer on Patreon makes? That's just envy.
My road to being a developer has so far cost me around 5k$ just to get where I am now. So basically I'm in the red from the get go. It'll take quite a while, if ever, to get my investment back.
And then there are the expenses for electricity. Having a renderer producing images almost 24/7 is quite costly.
Long rant, I know. Anyways ... back to the drawing board.
Cheers, and chill dudes and dudettes - Kaffekop
Oh boy, this whole money conversation and "I'm entitled to" standpoint is becoming ridiculous. The bashing and counter bashing is not needed at all. It's all about understanding, what Patreon is all about and what Patreon is not about.
Patreon is not about: Raising money to make a full product available to the backers. At any point, really, and that is important to understand.
Patreon is all about: Tipping the developer monthly and get tiered "perks" (or whatever) in return for that particular month's pledge. No more and no less.
The reason behind pledging should always be: I like what you're doing and I'll like to throw you some monetary support, this month, and maybe also the next - who knows.
No one is "entitled" to anything beyond what they get for that particular month, that they pledge their money. How much you decide to pledge is on you, the pledger. No one is forcing anyone to give more, than they are comfortable with.
I supported DS in the past, several times, but when I saw were BB was going I stopped. No need to throw money at something that you're not happy with.
And quite frankly: What's it to anyone, what a developer on Patreon makes? That's just envy.
My road to being a developer has so far cost me around 5k$ just to get where I am now. So basically I'm in the red from the get go. It'll take quite a while, if ever, to get my investment back.
And then there are the expenses for electricity. Having a renderer producing images almost 24/7 is quite costly.
Long rant, I know. Anyways ... back to the drawing board.
Cheers, and chill dudes and dudettes - Kaffekop
- Nov 25, 2017
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There are many things that are left incomplete and many others that could have been explored more... there are two characters very undeveloped in comparison with the others and those are Eric and Kira, in fact Eric is the most undeveloped character in the whole game, having many paths in construction like letting him stay in the house and the change he offers with you, Alicia for your mother. In fact he is so undeveloped that you can ignore him all game until the moment you decide to get him out.
Another point are the relationship levels and effects, it could have been improved a lot and you could have had a feeling of having Eric in your house with the characters.
And many more things that could have been added... in fact I find it quite fair that it is version 0.13 because of that, helping your mother solve her trauma for example with unorthodox means (like letting her act like a dominatrix to reverse the trauma it could have been quite fun).
I hope that the game remains "on hold" until the issue is solved and not like "the game has ended", at most I would ask for a remake with things properly completed at a later date.
- Aug 8, 2017
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The Alice part is pure evil blackmail like she did with Lisa and Max.
I don't care if all parties like it now it is still pure evil what has happen.
- Mar 28, 2017
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Well I understand that but I doubt he split it equaly in 4.And there is no matter what you work you anyway don't get all money.Still it is at least 10K $ each month for him way more than you can make in almost every country in the world.
I don't know if it is the right place to ask but is there any other games with the same characters design ?
- Mar 28, 2017
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Right, I'm in a similar position, but without the money problem.
Trying to get out for weeks with the first demo, there is one problem after another once you enter reality and leave the dreamworld. I wanted to provide my demo in January and now, as I'm in hospital, I could only imagine what they would do to me if my Patreon would have already grown and expectations would have been that high.
This "I want it all and I want it now" is not very motivating for a dev or dev-to-be.
But it would make a very good title for a song...
- Aug 8, 2017
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She looks way older than BB Lisa, BB Lisa about 18 and IR Lisa looks 28 plus.
Yes, that's what i was thinking. I'm not looking for exactly the same character, just the same style.