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If he puts in everything he plans to then this game will take over 20 years to complete.
Right. DS is very ambitious, but he might have to big plans. Even if a game with this simply technology does take less effort than an AAA-Game from major companies it will take to much time to follow different paths for all the posibilities and npc's. This will end in so much work, we will to have cut content very soon and it might end like BB: Many open threats and a lot of anoyed players.
In BB DS should have not introduced most of the non-related npc's and develop the mainstory. But i am affraid similiar stuff will happen in Glamour. Glamour will surely have great images and an interesting gameplay but it never will be finished and story will develop very slowly. I guess its worth to watch it when it's released. After the first time watching it we can wait 1 year before watching it again :)
 

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The REAL Problem is that most patrons like me back in the day dont check the page for updates daily. Not even weekly but most ppl check in once in a MONTH. So the majority of ppl is likely to not even know yet of BB being exchanged for Glamour only the addicted ones who check every day in know so far.

I do understand that he wants to go a different route but most of his patrons are males and i do not know 1 male who is interested in playing a chick and her sexual desires from her point of view. I just cant wrap my head around this at all. Its like he is trying to ruin his own income base.
 

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Right. DS is very ambitious, but he might have to big plans. Even if a game with this simply technology does take less effort than an AAA-Game from major companies it will take to much time to follow different paths for all the posibilities and npc's. This will end in so much work, we will to have cut content very soon and it might end like BB: Many open threats and a lot of anoyed players.
In BB DS should have not introduced most of the non-related npc's and develop the mainstory. But i am affraid similiar stuff will happen in Glamour. Glamour will surely have great images and an interesting gameplay but it never will be finished and story will develop very slowly. I guess its worth to watch it when it's released. After the first time watching it we can wait 1 year before watching it again :)
The main problem of BB was exactly that.

He adds Eric, many people get pissed, he leaves Eric incomplete, those that weren't pissed now ARE pissed.

So options he had:

1. Do not add Eric
2. Add Eric until the end

What he did was the worst option, add him but make him half-assed and more focused on kicking him out rather than fleshing him and adding content, end result that pissed off everyone.

One thing that is quite interesting while toning off the hate is better than adding a male antagonist, add a female one, same objectives but him being a her (and if possible taking off the con-man part). People's hate would become fuel to a feeling of "I wanna make you a slave of my dick".
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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If he does, I don't think it will be before he's done with Glamour so...
Glamour will be done with him faster then he thinks. i recheck daily on his site just to see the patrons deplete more and more.
When the first release of the game is at hands i guarantee they fall even more.

The Female MC is such a mistake with an almost entire male customer base.
 
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Glamour will be done with him faster then he thinks. i recheck daily on his site just to see the patrons deplete more and more.
When the first release of the game is at hands i guarantee they fall even more.

The Female MC is such a mistake with an almost entire male customer base.
It's not a problem having a female MC with a male customer base, the problem is that those that were supporting him prefer to have a male MC over a female one.

Personally I don't truly get why did he decide to do such a big change, there are many more games with a female MC over a male one and males can be taken advantage too like females, that's why femdom exists I would say, so if he wanted the character to be taken advantage of then he only needed dominant females.
 

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It's not a problem having a female MC with a male customer base, the problem is that those that were supporting him prefer to have a male MC over a female one.

Personally I don't truly get why did he decide to do such a big change, there are many more games with a female MC over a male one and males can be taken advantage too like females, that's why femdom exists I would say, so if he wanted the character to be taken advantage of then he only needed dominant females.
well i think most male player want male MC because you know, it feels like we are the MC. It just doesn't feel right when we play as female, at least that is what i feel. And if DS decided to make a game with female MC they should know the consequences that many players won't like it.
 

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well i think most male player want male MC because you know, it feels like we are the MC. It just doesn't feel right when we play as female, at least that is what i feel. And if DS decided to make a game with female MC they should know the consequences that many players won't like it.
It's kind of ironic but... exactly because many are males prefer a female MC, in most surveys I have seen in forum sites it's always the same, 60 to 80% of the people that vote prefer a female MC and that's kind of sad for me because I prefer male MC...

Another interesting point is that in non sexual games it's usually viceversa, people prefer a male MC even if now it's changing a bit.
 

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It's kind of ironic but... exactly because many are males prefer a female MC, in most surveys I have seen in forum sites it's always the same, 60 to 80% of the people that vote prefer a female MC and that's kind of sad for me because I prefer male MC...

Another interesting point is that in non sexual games it's usually viceversa, people prefer a male MC even if now it's changing a bit.
I call bullshit.
 

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It's kind of ironic but... exactly because many are males prefer a female MC, in most surveys I have seen in forum sites it's always the same, 60 to 80% of the people that vote prefer a female MC and that's kind of sad for me because I prefer male MC...
Another interesting point is that in non sexual games it's usually viceversa, people prefer a male MC even if now it's changing a bit.
No way in hell would you see 60-80% male voters pick female MC for an adult game where the MC is the protagonist trying to score sex with girls. Sure 90% of all female characters in most mmo games are actually male but come on..
You can't seriosly be saying that men want to be the girl trying to score a blowjob on other men.. unless you swing that way. But thats a diffrent topic.
 

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No way in hell would you see 60-80% male voters pick female MC for an adult game where the MC is the protagonist trying to score sex with girls. Sure 90% of all female characters in most mmo games are actually male but come on..
You can't seriosly be saying that men want to be the girl trying to score a blowjob on other men.. unless you swing that way. But thats a diffrent topic.
In order for that to be true those 60-80% of males would either to be gay or bi sexual.

It would go like this.

"Oh yeah you can play as hot chick and influence NPCs to suck their dicks. 80% of males would love that im sure...... "

Back to reality. No Hetero Male plays such shit.
 
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No way in hell would you see 60-80% male voters pick female MC for an adult game where the MC is the protagonist trying to score sex with girls. Sure 90% of all female characters in most mmo games are actually male but come on..
You can't seriosly be saying that men want to be the girl trying to score a blowjob on other men.. unless you swing that way. But thats a diffrent topic.
I call bullshit.
First of all to Yggalf, you call bullshit and I'm gonna try to find the surveys, I remember that one of the ones that people participated the most was made on the ulfm forum and it was a clear majority for the female MC.

Back to John, your argument is very flawed. Are you saying that every single person that plays a hentai game with a female MC swing that way?, wow then Japan is fucked up.

First of all there are many things that female MC have in japanese hentai games that can't be had in male MC, one of those that is quite liked is cloth destruction, would you prefer a naked male or female?.

People don't use a female MC to identify with the MC but it's very different, most of the games in which you are a male MC in japan you are just a shadow, that's because those are made so that the audience can feel like they are the MC, however in the case of the female she is fully drawn and the focus is on the many situations and corrupted acts that the player can make her do during the game.

The majority of hentai games made in Japan are with a female MC, another big point that people like is the costumes, having the female MC be clothed on many different costumes that may be more or less corrupted and with quite a bit of exposure.

On the western side of hentai the creators at least are a bit more balanced (from what I have seen), I would say that it is a bit inclined towards female MC overall but it isn't a big difference, however most of the creators here don't follow the same practises as in Japan related to many female specific mechanics like some that I have said.
 
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Back to John, your argument is very flawed.
You concider it a flawed argument that men don't wanna seduce other men..? Ok.
I think i understand why you miss Eric.

I will never in my life seduce other men or even interact with them in a sexual manner. The female MC in a hentai does not go out of her way to have sex with every other man. It's about undressing for the player. Almost all of them are played as POV. A very diffrent gamestyle from BB and future Glamour. Here we are the MC in the role of seducing the other characters. Very difrent pov, so to speak.
It's ok for me if you wanna see yourself as a the chick who seduces men into sex.. But i can't have a man sticking his pecker inside ME.. Thats a no nO NO!
And btw, it's not an argument. It's how i feel and i'm sure by reading the forums a lot of people agree with me.
 
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