Miðgarðsormr

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If he does, I don't think it will be before he's done with Glamour so...
Glamour will be done with him faster then he thinks. i recheck daily on his site just to see the patrons deplete more and more.
When the first release of the game is at hands i guarantee they fall even more.

The Female MC is such a mistake with an almost entire male customer base.
 
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DawnCry

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Glamour will be done with him faster then he thinks. i recheck daily on his site just to see the patrons deplete more and more.
When the first release of the game is at hands i guarantee they fall even more.

The Female MC is such a mistake with an almost entire male customer base.
It's not a problem having a female MC with a male customer base, the problem is that those that were supporting him prefer to have a male MC over a female one.

Personally I don't truly get why did he decide to do such a big change, there are many more games with a female MC over a male one and males can be taken advantage too like females, that's why femdom exists I would say, so if he wanted the character to be taken advantage of then he only needed dominant females.
 

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It's not a problem having a female MC with a male customer base, the problem is that those that were supporting him prefer to have a male MC over a female one.

Personally I don't truly get why did he decide to do such a big change, there are many more games with a female MC over a male one and males can be taken advantage too like females, that's why femdom exists I would say, so if he wanted the character to be taken advantage of then he only needed dominant females.
well i think most male player want male MC because you know, it feels like we are the MC. It just doesn't feel right when we play as female, at least that is what i feel. And if DS decided to make a game with female MC they should know the consequences that many players won't like it.
 

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well i think most male player want male MC because you know, it feels like we are the MC. It just doesn't feel right when we play as female, at least that is what i feel. And if DS decided to make a game with female MC they should know the consequences that many players won't like it.
It's kind of ironic but... exactly because many are males prefer a female MC, in most surveys I have seen in forum sites it's always the same, 60 to 80% of the people that vote prefer a female MC and that's kind of sad for me because I prefer male MC...

Another interesting point is that in non sexual games it's usually viceversa, people prefer a male MC even if now it's changing a bit.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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It's kind of ironic but... exactly because many are males prefer a female MC, in most surveys I have seen in forum sites it's always the same, 60 to 80% of the people that vote prefer a female MC and that's kind of sad for me because I prefer male MC...

Another interesting point is that in non sexual games it's usually viceversa, people prefer a male MC even if now it's changing a bit.
I call bullshit.
 

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It's kind of ironic but... exactly because many are males prefer a female MC, in most surveys I have seen in forum sites it's always the same, 60 to 80% of the people that vote prefer a female MC and that's kind of sad for me because I prefer male MC...
Another interesting point is that in non sexual games it's usually viceversa, people prefer a male MC even if now it's changing a bit.
No way in hell would you see 60-80% male voters pick female MC for an adult game where the MC is the protagonist trying to score sex with girls. Sure 90% of all female characters in most mmo games are actually male but come on..
You can't seriosly be saying that men want to be the girl trying to score a blowjob on other men.. unless you swing that way. But thats a diffrent topic.
 

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No way in hell would you see 60-80% male voters pick female MC for an adult game where the MC is the protagonist trying to score sex with girls. Sure 90% of all female characters in most mmo games are actually male but come on..
You can't seriosly be saying that men want to be the girl trying to score a blowjob on other men.. unless you swing that way. But thats a diffrent topic.
In order for that to be true those 60-80% of males would either to be gay or bi sexual.

It would go like this.

"Oh yeah you can play as hot chick and influence NPCs to suck their dicks. 80% of males would love that im sure...... "

Back to reality. No Hetero Male plays such shit.
 
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DawnCry

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No way in hell would you see 60-80% male voters pick female MC for an adult game where the MC is the protagonist trying to score sex with girls. Sure 90% of all female characters in most mmo games are actually male but come on..
You can't seriosly be saying that men want to be the girl trying to score a blowjob on other men.. unless you swing that way. But thats a diffrent topic.
I call bullshit.
First of all to Yggalf, you call bullshit and I'm gonna try to find the surveys, I remember that one of the ones that people participated the most was made on the ulfm forum and it was a clear majority for the female MC.

Back to John, your argument is very flawed. Are you saying that every single person that plays a hentai game with a female MC swing that way?, wow then Japan is fucked up.

First of all there are many things that female MC have in japanese hentai games that can't be had in male MC, one of those that is quite liked is cloth destruction, would you prefer a naked male or female?.

People don't use a female MC to identify with the MC but it's very different, most of the games in which you are a male MC in japan you are just a shadow, that's because those are made so that the audience can feel like they are the MC, however in the case of the female she is fully drawn and the focus is on the many situations and corrupted acts that the player can make her do during the game.

The majority of hentai games made in Japan are with a female MC, another big point that people like is the costumes, having the female MC be clothed on many different costumes that may be more or less corrupted and with quite a bit of exposure.

On the western side of hentai the creators at least are a bit more balanced (from what I have seen), I would say that it is a bit inclined towards female MC overall but it isn't a big difference, however most of the creators here don't follow the same practises as in Japan related to many female specific mechanics like some that I have said.
 
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JohnPonn

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Back to John, your argument is very flawed.
You concider it a flawed argument that men don't wanna seduce other men..? Ok.
I think i understand why you miss Eric.

I will never in my life seduce other men or even interact with them in a sexual manner. The female MC in a hentai does not go out of her way to have sex with every other man. It's about undressing for the player. Almost all of them are played as POV. A very diffrent gamestyle from BB and future Glamour. Here we are the MC in the role of seducing the other characters. Very difrent pov, so to speak.
It's ok for me if you wanna see yourself as a the chick who seduces men into sex.. But i can't have a man sticking his pecker inside ME.. Thats a no nO NO!
And btw, it's not an argument. It's how i feel and i'm sure by reading the forums a lot of people agree with me.
 

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I just played this v 0.13 and i think it's greattt, i can fuck mom finaly hahaha, but on the otherside i feel sad this game have to stop now and dont know when it will return. but anyway now darksilver focus on "GLAMOUR", and i think it about turn a good girl become a slut haha, like Anne (mom's max) but we decide become slut or not. ok hope the project "Glamour" will success like BB, and i hope this site will give us that game so we can discuss it again.
 
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The REAL Problem is that most patrons like me back in the day dont check the page for updates daily. Not even weekly but most ppl check in once in a MONTH. So the majority of ppl is likely to not even know yet of BB being exchanged for Glamour only the addicted ones who check every day in know so far.

I do understand that he wants to go a different route but most of his patrons are males and i do not know 1 male who is interested in playing a chick and her sexual desires from her point of view. I just cant wrap my head around this at all. Its like he is trying to ruin his own income base.
He sent us emails by the dozen. Someone that is not aware of that yet, is in the small minority.

Glamour will be done with him faster then he thinks. i recheck daily on his site just to see the patrons deplete more and more.
He hasn't lost more than 20 patrons (less than 1%) since the release of 0.13 though.


When the first release of the game is at hands i guarantee they fall even more.

The Female MC is such a mistake with an almost entire male customer base.
Most of the male customers have no problem with female MC. What will hurt his numbers is that obviously Glamour will take months to really get off the ground. The first releases would probably be world-building, slow-grind ~> patrons would tune out.
That would be the case even with a male MC.
 
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Benn Swagger

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popular games is filled with 100% male MC. Where that survey came from ?

Sure, in quality, many female MC games are far more better, but in matter of users, female MC lack of players.
I'm limiting in VN games of course. Who care of action porn games anyway.
 
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neodtst

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Funny , I wonder if he make the same mistake like @DawnCry said , make a female protagonist and crumbling to pressure midgame down the road have a ingame sex change for heshe because of ppl constant whining for a male protagonist... That would be another serious mistake like "Eric" in BB.

Anyway its generally knowledge that DS "listen" to $40 patreon , if you really want a male protagonist , "buy" him now. Too late hehehe , you just be paying for heshe sex change later. Then the story get real messy again

and urm.. Why is everyone posting their opinions on glamour on BB? There is a

DS has already done with BB at the moment and moving on to glamour right? Go that thread and hound him for a male protagonist.
 

bornsinner

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Well I don't know if he will do good with glamour but one thing that I know is that he has done a hell of a start (not in a good sense), first of all because he changed from a male MC to a female MC, many people care about it. The second thing is that he tried to sell male MC as overly simple and boring compared to female MC, which tells that he doesn't have a lot of imagination.
OR that DS is actually a woman.
 

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I don't understand why it's so unfathomable to have a female MC or to be a guy playing a female MC. Not everyone self inserts with the female like you guys would. It's hard not to for you guys. Doesn't mean it's the same struggle for others.

The comments I'm seeing act as if playing a female MC as a heterosexual man will result in the dick popping out of their computer screen on some Bloody Mary bathroom mirror type shit and throat fuck them til they vomit.

A man playing a female MC doesn't imply homosexuality. That's a one sided, immature judgement. Making a female MC suck a dick doesn't mean YOU are sucking a dick. Just like it's not really YOU fucking all the girls in the game. I understand self inserting. But don't imply something that can't be farther from the truth just because you can't shake off that tendency.

It's like when vanilla fans call NTR fans "cuckfags" because they assume their love for NTR means they like to be cucked in real life. All because the vanilla fans can't shake self inserting with the MC and automatically assume everyone is just like them. That's a one sided judgement and even farther from the truth.

There's more than one side to every story. Your story is that it's hard to play a female MC without feeling like a dick is going into your mouth or up your ass. Others will play as a female MC not because they like dick in their mouth, but because they have the ability to not self insert with the female. Such as myself.

I self insert to. I get it. But more times than not I self insert to male characters I feel are more like me as a person. It's not by choice. That's just what happens naturally. That's why I don't like NTR. Cause the NTR victim is generally a person I can relate to in personality. I can't help it, that's why I avoid NTR. (Unless it's idiotic, unrealistic, mind break bullshit. At that point it's just funny. If it's unrealistic with the girl being taken screaming "cock!! Cock!!! Coooock!!!! It's reshaping my insides!!! I'm sorry MC-kun!!! His cock is perfectly shaped and messing up my insides!!!!! I love you, but your cock can never satisfy me again!!!" While sticking her tongue out with heart shaped pupils, then I can't self insert. It's idiotic and funny.)

When I play a female MC, I never self insert. A dick isn't going inside me fellas. YOU cant shake that feeling. Doesnt mean others are the same way. At that point, it's either voyuer or just straight porn pictures to jerk off to. And if it has a good story, then I'll enjoy the story as I jerk off.
 

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I am sure it's wrong place to ask but f@ck it i'll ask anyway... Anyone know if the house they live in is a DAZ3d preset model or something DS would have created themselves?
 

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Surprise!!!
from DS Discord channel:

Dark Silver - Today at 12:23 PM
I guess we'll create a poll about glamour mc gender..
 
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