DawnCry

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Well it's kind of interesting the argument however I think we should end it because it degenerated too much XD (and I don't think it would be useful from now on).

Mostly the main issue that people don't like female mc have is about "seducing males", to tell you the truth the problem is that they are basically thinking about an otome game, in which one we have a female MC and a group of boys trying to seduce her (or viceversa she seducing boys). Those games aren't targeted to male audiences.

The games that target males usually you are just having an adventure as a female however many people want to take advantage of the MC, you will find bandits and if you lose you get raped for example. It's not about seduction but about the sexy situations that the female MC finds herself into, the males playing the game just enjoy the multiple situations without taking the pov of the female MC.

Another important thing is that while having a female MC you can have lesbian relationships. I don't think anyone here would find that a problem.

I respect that there are people that don't like having a female MC, however people like @JohnPonn shouldn't call everyone homosexual because of that, it's very childish.
 

AkitoH

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Well it's kind of interesting the argument however I think we should end it because it degenerated too much XD (and I don't think it would be useful from now on).
Bro, I don't know how much clearer I can be to them. They're playing the game how it would normally be targeted. They don't want to seduce men. I'm not disputing that, cause I understand it.

But they keep going around my point. I'm not playing the game how it would normally be targeted. I'm not playing with the intention to seduce men nor am I inserting myself as the female in the situation. I'm playing to fap to the girl in sexy situations. But I'm missing the point. Yeesh.
 
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DawnCry

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Bro, I don't know how much clearer I can be to them. They're playing the game how it would normally be targeted. They don't want to seduce men. I'm not disputing that, cause I understand it.

But they keep going around my point. I'm not playing the game how it would normally be targeted. I'm not playing with the intention to seduce men nor am I inserting myself as the female in the situation. I'm playing to fap to the girl in sexy situations. But I'm missing the point. Yeesh.
Well don't take it too hard on you, it's just that there are things that aren't easy to understand for others, for example think about fetishes for a second, one person may have a foot fetish and another one will call it gross, the one that doesn't have the fetish will never understand the one who has it. The most that you can do is just to respect other people opinnions and that's it.

I have played games with both female and male MC's, personally I prefer having a male MC however I can understand that others like to be the female MC, but someone who only plays games that he is a male MC would find it hard to understand. The optimal thing in those situations is just respect each other and don't try to continue the argument.
 

Ignazzio

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What's to argue about? Some people just can't play a game without immersive themselves with MC so they don't understand female MC. Other who don't immerse so much can play it as an observers. All female MC's games are aimed for normal heterosexual guys and they are quite popular. Just different perspective.
 

AkitoH

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Well don't take it too hard on you, it's just that there are things that aren't easy to understand for others, for example think about fetishes for a second, one person may have a foot fetish and another one will call it gross, the one that doesn't have the fetish will never understand the one who has it. The most that you can do is just to respect other people opinnions and that's it.

I have played games with both female and male MC's, personally I prefer having a male MC however I can understand that others like to be the female MC, but someone who only plays games that he is a male MC would find it hard to understand. The optimal thing in those situations is just respect each other and don't try to continue the argument.
I prefer male MCs too. I'd agree with the example if it was a fetish situation. But it's not. It's as simple as fapping to regular porn. It ain't a "2 + 2 = 5 sometimes" kind of scenario. It's one that we all understand.

That's the easiest way to describe it, is that it's the equivalent to watching porn. I'm fapping to the sexy pic. Not the fact that she's seducing the man. That's what I want them to understand. It's a concept we all understand. I'm not playing the game traditionally.
 

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neodtst

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What's to argue about? Some people just can't play a game without immersive themselves with MC so they don't understand female MC. Other who don't immerse so much can play it as an observers. All female MC's games are aimed for normal heterosexual guys and they are quite popular. Just different perspective.
The problem is some ppl who immersed themselves too much in the game get too agitated and doesn't know when to detach themselves when they are out of the game and get keyboard rage , in many cases calling others names.

This argument is not about NOT understanding other ppl pt of view ... its about NOT respecting other ppl.

If playing a female protagonist make you feel like a gay , thats the way u roll , I understand , I think everyone does too , thats your issue , nobody say you can't feel like a gay when u play a female protagonist. Absolutely nobody.

BUT That doesn't make give you the right to call everyone who CAN play female protagonist a homosexual gay. See the diff?
 

DawnCry

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"We firmly believe Glamour's protagonist should be female, but we can't ignore player'$$$$ desire$$$$."
Here we go again... x'D
Wow really? XDDD.

The best option when you have a patreon is just ask your supporters, it's not hard. If his supporters prefer that he continues with a male MC what's so hard about it?, if he wants to have the MC being taken advantage of so much then he should just add perverted females to the game.

Wait, the poll isn't it kind of strange the options?:

1) The protagonist should stay female

2) I have no strong feelings one way or the other

3) I want to be able to choose between genders at the start of the game

Where is the "I prefer a male protagonist" option?.
 

thanatos69

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I want to clarify here that option 3 doesn't mean "just magically add twice as much content into the game in the same amount of development time". While the map, the characters and most gameplay mechanics like crafting will stay the same regardless of main character's gender, the events will obviously be unique. Which means half of the time we could've spent on Kate's story and events will be spent on another character instead. So while the number of ALL events will stay the same, this number WILL be divided between two main characters. Are you sure you want this?
In other words, he wants you to choose option 3 so he can milk the game twice as much.
 
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Even if it becomes a "choose between genders" start, it will be a loss of players as the updates will need more time.
So this is only lose or less lose imo.
 

bosp

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He hasn't lost more than 20 patrons (less than 1%) since the release of 0.13 though.
I call bullshit. He lost 513 patrons since the release of 0.13 and the number of still active patrons keep plummeting on a daily basis.
 

badass

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well, if the anti female MC stop their support for DS, he will eventually stop or at least change glamour to male MC. The harder the drop, the fastest it will happen :p
 
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I don't think that a female mc game is bad or something, but these ero games are usually played by hetero-males that want to play an alpha-male mc that owns every woman/girl he sees. So this FMC is only going to narrow the player pool.

Well, DS also should know this as he/she is a veteran game developer. Thus DS must have something in mind like maybe this was DS's dreamwork ? Or maybe there are some juicy patrons that pay nice for a FMC ???
 
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