Snugglepuff

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largely by virtue of not being the milf featured in many other games with huge ass, hips, and breasts.
I agree that a lot of the time the proportions are a bit "exaggerated", but Ann's body is more of an "idealised" milf, as opposed to a "hyper-sexualised" milf. Well, all the women's bodies in Big Brother are "idealised", which isn't a bad thing, but sometimes it's immersion breaking as hell. Except for the porn movie filming parts, since they all look like idealised porn bodies for an incest fetish... Which is pretty much the whole point.

Funnily enough, there's a character that's a potential cherry popper for the Player Character at the beginning in that's using a more mature version of Ann's model, who's a less "idealised" milf, but because of the similarity between the two completely different characters, her face kind of freaks me out... Kind of what I'd imagine her to end up after Eric had finished with her. Can't remember which mod, but the renders for Ann use a similar face to the older woman from My Sister, My Roommate, and it's just... "No. God no, kill it with fire", because it's not the same face as Ann.
Faces aside, that character has a more "milfy" body, but goes too much toward the older end of milf... Almost at <eurgh!> gilf kind of appearance, but something in between would have been more fitting for Ann imo.

Then again, when some devs are using the same base models and faces as other devs for their games, with "tweaks" to the faces, I sometimes find myself looking at them and thinking "You should sue the plastic surgeon".

I didn't really want a romance with Lisa, although that option would have been okay. But I didn't want the pseudo-romance or the entire buying her affections thing as the sole routes. I'd have loved a straight seduction where her resistance is slowly worn down by Max, combined with her own curiosity about sex.
Pretty certain that when the update came out with her masturbating next to Max at night came out, the whole "seduction of Lisa" went out the window faster than Kira's underwear.
From that point on, she absolutely was just like Alice, in that she wanted Max's dick inside her. The only endearing quality she had left by the end, was that she still considered herself a virgin because her hymen was still intact.
When the doctor and regular clinic visits for Lisa's hymen checks was put in, all I could think of was that Ann was checking to see if Lisa and Max had started fucking each other already.XD
 

Asclepiosus

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gusy if we all send massege to DS, you think mabye he agree to continue to wark on BB?
i doubt it. it's been a while since he abandoned this game. Since then lot's fans sent email/massages but no use. DS also replied few times before to made clear that he stopped this project.
He said this is because patreon, at first i believed too. However, lots of game developers share the same fate and they continue their game with some solutions. If DS truly committed with this game and want to continue BB he already continue BB with some solutions like other developers did. That's why some fans thought he already bored with BB and do not want to continue this project.
 
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Personally I would have liked it if the game could continue.

There are very few games in which we can compete to get the girls rather than "hey I'm the only man in the world, time to get harem". Don't take me wrong I like harems but... they have to be deserved.

I just don't like the feeling of "I'm the center of the world", the feeling that I like the most is the progression from "weak to strong", losing things but being able to take them back in the future is one of my likes and this game had it, the mom started lost and I would have liked a good fight to get her in this game.

Having a bad starting situation is kind of interesting for me, because later on I can take revenge and it would be so sweet. An example would be Seeds of chaos, in this game we are forced to take many bad options because at the start we are weaker, ironically that same line that defined the game didn't follow the sex scenes, no one could force you or rape you, you were in absolute control over it and that kind of killed things for me.

Ah well, here I go again with what I would like to see in an adult game XD.
 

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That's why some fans thought he already bored with BB and do not want to continue this project.
More than bored, I think the history of BB has taken a narrative plot different from what he had initially thought (because of the donors) and no longer know how to move forward.
In short I believe that in this game was in narrative crisis.
 
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More than bored, I think the history of BB has taken a narrative plot different from what he had initially thought (because of the donors) and no longer know how to move forward.
In short I believe that in this game was in narrative crisis.
I think the same, while many people didn't like Eric I think that Darksilver had many plans for him but he got kicked too fast because of players demands so we entered into a "free mode" that was a bit boring.

Perhaps what Darksilver wanted to do is quite a fight to kick Eric out or perhaps even make a deal with him. But well we will never know the original plans.
 
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I think the same, while many people didn't like Eric I think that Darksilver had many plans for him but he got kicked too fast because of players demands so we entered into a "free mode" that was a bit boring.

Perhaps what Darksilver wanted to do is quite a fight to kick Eric out or perhaps even make a deal with him. But well we will never know the original plans.
I agree with you ... you delete erik brought, as you say, has a free mode .... and so the plot has suffered a lot.
I think many hate erik solely for the fact that Max couldn't have sex with mom ...

me erik didn't mind because it was a good antagonist, it would have been nicer to blackmail him or resize it rather than drive him out.
in fact, BDSM scenes with which erik (after be was blackmailed by Max) did attend Max were fun...
maybe later clutching a kind Alliance and had fun together with Ann.
 

Snugglepuff

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I agree with you ... you delete erik brought, as you say, has a free mode .... and so the plot has suffered a lot.
I think many hate erik solely for the fact that Max couldn't have sex with mom ...
In regards to Ann, it was more than just that.
She would (and did, if you confronted her about Eric jerking off outside Alice's window) take Eric's side in anything and everything, over that of her own son.
Even to the point, that Eric can very quickly convince her to let her own son watch her having sex with Eric.
All that within a few short weeks of even knowing the guy...
If it had stopped there, just as being Ann's boyfriend and a future rival for her vag, then he wouldn't have been as hated. It didn't, and got progressively worse.

Eric was a poorly written, poorly thought out "Gary Stu" antagonist for a long time over development.
It was so bad, that even when given the tools to turn the tables on him, (and actually showing glimpses of potential story relating to the opening of the game) Patrons wanted him gone and never revisited.

me erik didn't mind because it was a good antagonist,
XD

in fact, BDSM scenes with which erik (after be was blackmailed by Max) did attend Max were fun...
maybe later clutching a kind Alliance and had fun together with Ann.
Eric would never have an "alliance" with Max. He wants Max gone, which is the entire point of him suggesting the military school, which then becomes Maxes fate if he doesn't capitulate to Eric's desires on all the women, or maintain his own influence on their feelings.
It's about power, and Max is a threat to that power for Eric.
 
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In regards to Ann, it was more than just that.
She would (and did, if you confronted her about Eric jerking off outside Alice's window) take Eric's side in anything and everything, over that of her own son.
Even to the point, that Eric can very quickly convince her to let her own son watch her having sex with Eric.
All that within a few short weeks of even knowing the guy...
If it had stopped there, just as being Ann's boyfriend and a future rival for her vag, then he wouldn't have been as hated. It didn't, and got progressively worse.

Eric was a poorly written, poorly thought out "Gary Stu" antagonist for a long time over development.
It was so bad, that even when given the tools to turn the tables on him, (and actually showing glimpses of potential story relating to the opening of the game) Patrons wanted him gone and never revisited.



XD



Eric would never have an "alliance" with Max. He wants Max gone, which is the entire point of him suggesting the military school, which then becomes Maxes fate if he doesn't capitulate to Eric's desires on all the women, or maintain his own influence on their feelings.
It's about power, and Max is a threat to that power for Eric.
I think the same regarding how Eric ended up being. He could have been a good antagonist but the creator made it too forced, in fact as you say the word of Eric was the law for the mother.

For me it should have been divided in 3 levels:

-Submissive
-Obedient
-Slave

In the submissive level which would be the starting one, while on minor things she would obey Eric she would still have quite a bit of willpower and she wouldn't let Eric do whatever he wants, even less lusting after her daughters.

In the obedient level that should have been the point where Eric could let Max watch him have sex with the mother and he could take many actions against the girls if they don't step over the line.

In the slave level Eric would have full control over the mother and be quite active in making the house into his personal harem. The mother just doing whatever Eric wants.

If it was well done it could have been very interesting, as a player you could have been helpful for Eric in which it would advance faster from submissive to obedient to slave but earning much more money from him and being able to purchase more skills sooner or train your current ones.

Or you could have fought with him from moment one, reducing the speed at which he advances on your mother relationship but earning less money and having to find alternative ways.

At the same time this could have had quite a complex relationship with all the characters and of course blackmail opportunities or situations that may be in your favor or against it. For example one of your sisters wants money to buy multiple things, this could be an opportunity to have a better relationship but if you don't have enough money or you don't find the chance then Eric would have used it.

That's more or less how I would have liked the game to be, of course it would have been even better if your sisters weren't stupid or easy to conquer.
 

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In regards to Ann, it was more than just that.
She would (and did, if you confronted her about Eric jerking off outside Alice's window) take Eric's side in anything and everything, over that of her own son.
Even to the point, that Eric can very quickly convince her to let her own son watch her having sex with Eric.
All that within a few short weeks of even knowing the guy...
If it had stopped there, just as being Ann's boyfriend and a future rival for her vag, then he wouldn't have been as hated. It didn't, and got progressively worse.

Eric was a poorly written, poorly thought out "Gary Stu" antagonist for a long time over development.
It was so bad, that even when given the tools to turn the tables on him, (and actually showing glimpses of potential story relating to the opening of the game) Patrons wanted him gone and never revisited.

Eric would never have an "alliance" with Max. He wants Max gone, which is the entire point of him suggesting the military school, which then becomes Maxes fate if he doesn't capitulate to Eric's desires on all the women, or maintain his own influence on their feelings.
It's about power, and Max is a threat to that power for Eric.
I agree 100%. Eric was horribly implemented, and clearly DS had very different plans for him than what people wanted. Part of the issue was that Eric comes into the game after it seemed to have a tone established, and changes everything and everyone. He was on god mode. What people had thought was a regular incest game was watching Eric fuck your mom, aunt, and work on your sisters. As has been discussed before, DS seems to have a mental block with seeing incest as anything people would voluntarily enter into, so his idea of incest was a kind of proxy thing of spying on them as Eric screwed them, or getting handouts from Eric. I've played in incest or hentai games with male antagonists, but none of them have infuriated me on a meta level as much as Eric. I didn't want revenge on him. I didn't want to kill him. I wanted to erase him from ever happening in the game at all.

I think the same regarding how Eric ended up being. He could have been a good antagonist but the creator made it too forced, in fact as you say the word of Eric was the law for the mother.

For me it should have been divided in 3 levels:

-Submissive
-Obedient
-Slave

In the submissive level which would be the starting one, while on minor things she would obey Eric she would still have quite a bit of willpower and she wouldn't let Eric do whatever he wants, even less lusting after her daughters.

In the obedient level that should have been the point where Eric could let Max watch him have sex with the mother and he could take many actions against the girls if they don't step over the line.

In the slave level Eric would have full control over the mother and be quite active in making the house into his personal harem. The mother just doing whatever Eric wants.

If it was well done it could have been very interesting, as a player you could have been helpful for Eric in which it would advance faster from submissive to obedient to slave but earning much more money from him and being able to purchase more skills sooner or train your current ones.

Or you could have fought with him from moment one, reducing the speed at which he advances on your mother relationship but earning less money and having to find alternative ways.

At the same time this could have had quite a complex relationship with all the characters and of course blackmail opportunities or situations that may be in your favor or against it. For example one of your sisters wants money to buy multiple things, this could be an opportunity to have a better relationship but if you don't have enough money or you don't find the chance then Eric would have used it.

That's more or less how I would have liked the game to be, of course it would have been even better if your sisters weren't stupid or easy to conquer.
What you're describing isn't an incest game. Watching someone fuck your family isn't incest any more than watching football is exercising. There's nothing wrong with what you want, and there's a fair amount of people into it. But it's not what a lot of DS's patrons wanted or expected.
 

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I agree 100%. Eric was horribly implemented, and clearly DS had very different plans for him than what people wanted. Part of the issue was that Eric comes into the game after it seemed to have a tone established, and changes everything and everyone. He was on god mode. What people had thought was a regular incest game was watching Eric fuck your mom, aunt, and work on your sisters. As has been discussed before, DS seems to have a mental block with seeing incest as anything people would voluntarily enter into, so his idea of incest was a kind of proxy thing of spying on them as Eric screwed them, or getting handouts from Eric. I've played in incest or hentai games with male antagonists, but none of them have infuriated me on a meta level as much as Eric. I didn't want revenge on him. I didn't want to kill him. I wanted to erase him from ever happening in the game at all.



What you're describing isn't an incest game. Watching someone fuck your family isn't incest any more than watching football is exercising. There's nothing wrong with what you want, and there's a fair amount of people into it. But it's not what a lot of DS's patrons wanted or expected.
What I'm describing is an incest game, it's the same game that you have seen but with a well implemented antagonist. You would still lust after your family but you will have a rival that will gradually become stronger until you defeat him.

I don't truly understand your comment because it's just what we have but better implemented. If because the game has an antagonist and a better system that what we had then it isn't an incest game anymore... well I would recommend you to read again the tags.
 

Snugglepuff

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is there any good news from dev i miss a new updates for this game:FeelsBadMan::FeelsBadMan::FeelsBadMan:

If there was any good news regarding this game's future, it would be clearly visible.
For starters, the thread would no longer have the Abandoned part in the title, and people would be talking about that.

It's still abandoned, and nobody's talking about the game being continued by Dark Silver/Sandlust Games.
 
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If there was any good news regarding this game's future, it would be clearly visible.
For starters, the thread would no longer have the Abandoned part in the title, and people would be talking about that.

It's still abandoned, and nobody's talking about the game being continued by Dark Silver/Sandlust Games.
hey i was just asking u dont have to be rude :confused::confused:
 

Agent HK47

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hey i was just asking u dont have to be rude :confused::confused:
If I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up for anything. Dark Silver seems to be 100% focused on making his new game successful, and he is ignoring pleas from his fans to return to work on BB.

At this point it seems like an all-out war between Dark Silver and his (former) fanbase. Dark Silver insists on continuing his new game, and his fanbase aren't buying into it at all. If I were a betting man, I would say give it another 3-4 months, until Dark Silver's patreon count drops below 1000 and then see him finally give up on Glamour.
However, I don't see him returning to work on Big Brother at that point, seeing as how it is what his fans wants him to do and they will have ruined his new dream project, so he will be pissed. I think he will just close down shop and vanish.

Ofc this is purely speculation on my part.
 

Uwe Furtmustal

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I have just one question and I'm sorry i won't go through 1230 pages.

So, Can this game be considered as almost completed (or just somewhere near the completion) even when Abandoned? Or is on half way done and ending with cliffhanger?

I saw this game for long time in ON HOLD stage, so I was waiting if it will continue or will end, so that's why I'm asking now. Thanks in advance.
 

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i am surprised that he abandoned this game, he has lost a lot of income, at one point he had nearly 2900 patreons no he only has around 1600
 
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