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I use cheat menu and now i am stuck at movie watch at Friday neigh 21:00 after shooting blind folded scean with mom, kindly help.
 

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He's what really made this game, and besides everyone in your family minus the youngest sister is a POS so they kinda deserve each other.

Not to mention that was the entire point of the game to be the ultimate vouyer.
I started in v.6 or so and when I started it said it was the "Incest Game of your Life" or something like that, not the ultimate voyeur.
 

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I started in v.6 or so and when I started it said it was the "Incest Game of your Life" or something like that, not the ultimate voyeur.
Way back on the devleopment it was just supposed to be you watching Eric fuck and corrupt all your family but then it got changed due to popular demand so that you can get rid of him and kepp them for yourself.
 

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Nope. It was advertised incest game of your life from the very beginning . Eric added game later on with 0.2 . And games was way better without him until DS lost his interest
There was literally no game before 0.2 it was just a broken demo with the worst english you could imagine, and he planned to be all about you watching Eric with incest scenes when he allows you to share but the main aim of it was to be a voyeur game.

Eric made this game unique instead of just another harem game, the sheer competition and hositility was present between the two. And the Dev pro lost interest the game wasnt going his way anymore.
 

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Eric made this game unique instead of just another harem game,
No, he didn't. That argument was as full of holes during development then, as it is now.

He was a badly implemented attempt at an antagonist that has been seen before in other porn games. So badly implemented, it caused pretty intense arguments between the pro-Eric and anti-Eric "brigades", and lead to incessant trolling to the point that it would become one of only two things that would cause a moderator to come in an lock the thread for a brief time.
The other was the ridiculous spamming on release days.
 

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That's what makes a great antagonist. I'm kind of impressed what DS achieved with this one as long as the game was still living and decent.
 
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He was a good antagonist.

I remember when I first saw him I had a very strong negative reaction toward the character.
 
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That's what makes a great antagonist. I'm kind of impressed what DS achieved with this one as long as the game was still living and decent.
He was a good antagonist.

I remember when I first saw him I had a very strong negative reaction toward the character.
Eric was not a great antagonist, not even a good one. What success he had in his goals was down to everyone else becoming dumb as fuck for plot reasons when he was in the house.
There were some barely laid foundations for his being a decent antagonist, connected to the opening premise of the story itself, but it never got to be built upon because DS fucked up with both introducing Eric and the effect Eric had on literally every woman in the house.

To make him a good antagonist, he needed to be more insidious and actually cunning. Instead, he was a lucky bastard who happened to be Ann's senior at her new work place, and that she's a fucking cretin. Not a submissive or open to suggestion in ways that Kira exploits, but a full blown cretin.
Eric finding out about Max & Kira is a blatant plot hole that shows Max is a moron and that Kira is briefly a different character (more like Ann) and doesn't question how Eric could have gotten visual evidence of what they did, since there were only two people in the house.

Hell, outside of her brief stupidity, Kira would've made for a more interesting antagonist than Eric. She at least was clearly intelligent, cunning and manipulative and pretty ruthless in getting what she wants without the plot turning everyone else into temporary retards.
 
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No, he didn't. That argument was as full of holes during development then, as it is now.

He was a badly implemented attempt at an antagonist that has been seen before in other porn games. So badly implemented, it caused pretty intense arguments between the pro-Eric and anti-Eric "brigades", and lead to incessant trolling to the point that it would become one of only two things that would cause a moderator to come in an lock the thread for a brief time.
The other was the ridiculous spamming on release days.
Thats what I love about him, the absolute seethe he created was amazing. The most memorable characters are the ones you hate the most, and the creator did a fine of job at that end plus it helps that Max is really annoying sometimes so it feels good seeing him get cucked.
 

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Thats what I love about him, the absolute seethe he created was amazing.
Which is completely different from him being a decent/good/great antagonist.

You like that he was a shitty character whose only capability as an antagonist was plot, because it triggered the knee-jerk reactionary idiots. That says more about you than anything else, and actually makes Eric even more of a waste of development time and effort.
 
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Which is completely different from him being a decent/good/great antagonist.

You like that he was a shitty character whose only capability as an antagonist was plot, because it triggered the knee-jerk reactionary idiots. That says more about you than anything else, and actually makes Eric even more of a waste of development time and effort.
You keep on saying that he's a bad antaganist but he is easily the most memorable opposition in any porn game. He taunts you, abuses your family any way he pleases but your character has zero moral highground so the only thing you got going for you is save your aunt from the blackmail. Without Eric this game would just be Max peeping tom simulator and the character might as well paid for an escort since all you need to win one of your sisters is a lot money.
 
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Snugglepuff

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You keep on saying that he's a bad antaganist but he is easily the most memorable opposition in any porn game.
By your own admission, you remember him because of the reactions to him. Reactions which were based around how badly implemented he was.

He taunts you,
He taunts Max.

abuses your family any way he pleases
Max's family, and he doesn't get more than Ann and occasionally Kira.

but your character has zero moral highground so the only thing you got going for you is save your aunt from the blackmail.
You really have a problem separating Max from yourself, don't you?

Where have I said anything about Max having anything approaching a glimmer of moral high ground?
Raising that point as though it's at all relevant makes it apparent that you're making grossly incorrect assumptions about both me, and the nature of what we've been discussing.

Without Eric this game would just be Max peeping tom simulator
Here's your award for graduating "The Captain Obvious School of No Shit Sherlock".
I have neither said or implied that Eric shouldn't be in the game. I have repeatedly and clearly stated what is wrong with him, and that he could have been far better than what we were left with. However, because DS was scared by the slightest hint of losing patron money, he capitulated to vocalised discontent and allowing patrons to direct the course of development.

and the character might as well paid for an escort since all you need to win one of your sisters is a lot money.
Alice needs more financial investment from Max long term, spread across several resources both direct and indirect, for which he gains substantially as far as he's concerned.

Lisa is the financially simplest of his two sisters to start having sexual relations with.
Yoga, and Kira. No need for buying her jewellery at all.
 
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By your own admission, you remember him because of the reactions to him. Reactions which were based around how badly implemented he was.



He taunts Max.



Max's family, and he doesn't get more than Ann and occasionally Kira.



You really have a problem separating Max from yourself, don't you?

Where have I said anything about Max having anything approaching a glimmer of moral high ground?
Raising that point as though it's at all relevant makes it apparent that you're making grossly incorrect assumptions about both me, and the nature of what we've been discussing.



Here's your award for graduating "The Captain Obvious School of No Shit Sherlock".
I have neither said or implied that Eric shouldn't be in the game. I have repeatedly and clearly stated what is wrong with him, and that he could have been far better than what we were left with. However, because DS was scared by the slightest hint of losing patron money, he capitulated to vocalised discontent and allowing patrons to direct the course of development.



Alice needs more financial investment from Max long term, spread across several resources both direct and indirect, for which he gains substantially as far as he's concerned.

Lisa is the financially simplest of his two sisters to start having sexual relations with.
Yoga, and Kira. No need for buying her jewellery at all.
Dude I literally just mean you the player as in Max you make the decisions so Max is the MC, therefore the player is the MC thats how every bloody game described where you make the descisions.

I remeber Eric because of how much a challenge he posted in the game, since if you don't act quickly or safely you lose all attempts to gain control.

And you keep calling him a waste of development so ofcourse I'd assume you mean he shouldnt be in the game, and instead of nitpicking to make yourself feel better, how about you actually read my posts with no hostility since it triggers you so much. Dev lost interst because he didnt get to dictate what he wanted without pissing a lot of people off and making something you dislike or have no interst really annoys mentally, Max is a piece of shit therefore you can have zero reason to hate Eric for treating Max like a piece of shit and so is every family member minus youngest.
 

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Dude I literally just mean you the player as in Max you make the decisions so Max is the MC, therefore the player is the MC thats how every bloody game described where you make the descisions.
There's a blatant difference between players making choices about how the MC in a game will act (literally pointless in this game though), and addressing characters as "your sister" etc.

I remeber Eric because of how much a challenge he posted in the game, since if you don't act quickly or safely you lose all attempts to gain control.
Before he was balanced out, the only challenge posed was that his magical influence over the other women was over-powered and literally out of control.
After it was reigned in, he posed little-to-no challenge at all. Especially when you understand the game's mechanics and the "Eric meta".

And you keep calling him a waste of development so ofcourse I'd assume you mean he shouldnt be in the game and instead of nitpicking to make yourself feel better, how about you actually read my posts with no hostility since it triggers you so much.
I'm not nit-picking. Nor am I responding with hostility.
Sarcasm and incredulity at the baseless assumptions you make because you seem to not be reading my posts or you need to re-read before replying due to lack of reading comprehension, yes. No hostility though.
Whichever it is, not understanding what you've read or not actually reading it, I've been consistent and clear in what I've written.
You however have changed from "I like how Eric made people react" to "I liked him because he posed a challenge", in a clear effort to counter my previous points about how badly implemented he was, and how he's a bad antagonist. It doesn't.

Dev lost interst because he didnt get to dictate what he wanted without pissing a lot of people off and making something you dislike or have no interst really annoys mentally, Max is a piece of shit therefore you can have zero reason to hate Eric for treating Max like a piece of shit and so is every family member minus youngest.
Again, you're seeing what isn't there in my posts. I have not said anything in favour of Max. At all.
If you'd even bother to go to the effort of looking through this thread, and even the thread for Glamour (and it's BB remake) you'd see that I have a crystal clear low opinion of Max, to the point that I have literally said the Max and Eric are basically the same character.
In this thread alone, I have pointed out how fucked up every single one of the family is, even Lisa, and done so in great detail and lesser detail in the Glamour thread.

Do us both a favour and calm yourself, read and understand the things I've been saying instead of turning into the same kind of silly people who have an irrational hatred of a Eric.
 
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