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You can do all 3 paths but Olivia path has the least amount of content, Lisa Yoga path has less eye-candy.
(3 different games are needed though.)

Both Lisa GF path's have the same amount of sex.
thanks for the advice, in fact it is more important for me to have more scenes with Ann, just the presence of yoga does not imply more contact with her? Or is it not particularly played out in this route?
Somebody save me a few hours work what's the name on Erics driving license and do we know the name of the woman he talks to on the phone that Max overhears when Ann is in the back
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thanks for the advice, in fact it is more important for me to have more scenes with Ann, just the presence of yoga does not imply more contact with her? Or is it not particularly played out in this route?

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On Olivia you don't get any more with any of the girls.

Only on Lisa's GF path's will you get sex with Ann during yoga and other places around the house.

Just remember starting in v.10 triggers were put in all quest for all quest, meaning that you must progress all quests at the same time.
You no longer and work on just 1 or 2 at a time but you must work on all of them at the same time that you can.
 

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Somebody save me a few hours work what's the name on Erics driving license and do we know the name of the woman he talks to on the phone that Max overhears when Ann is in the back
You still have to do the work and get the name in game before you can move to the next part so having the name will not help you.
 

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Eric never fucks Alice or Lisa and you can block him from Kira by not doing anything with her at 3am until after you kick his ass out.
So this leaves only his girlfriend Ann.
Ann only becomes a love interest after eric is gone.
Here I disagree with you in the Game, Eric can sleep with Alice, and judging by the guides, he can also seduce Lisa.

In order for him to seduce Alice, you do not need to block Kira from him, and then to isolate Kira from him, you can give him Alice's alcohol-related secret. However, he will deceive you and, as a result, will alternate Kira, Alice and Ann.

As for Lisa, I can show you a screenshot from the manual.
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However, I agree that the game is not about NTR, it's just a detail of the overall design, and not the idea of the whole game.
 

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Here I disagree with you in the Game, Eric can sleep with Alice, and judging by the guides, he can also seduce Lisa.

In order for him to seduce Alice, you do not need to block Kira from him, and then to isolate Kira from him, you can give him Alice's alcohol-related secret. However, he will deceive you and, as a result, will alternate Kira, Alice and Ann.

As for Lisa, I can show you a screenshot from the manual.
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However, I agree that the game is not about NTR, it's just a detail of the overall design, and not the idea of the whole game.
Does it show him fucking Alice?
If it does then I am thankful I never saw it.

As for Lisa's sex ed he does not fuck Lisa because Ann will not allow it, Ann knows Lisa is a virgin and wants to keep it that way.
They just show Lisa sex between eric and Ann.
 

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Does it show him fucking Alice?
If it does then I am thankful I never saw it.

As for Lisa's sex ed he does not fuck Lisa because Ann will not allow it, Ann knows Lisa is a virgin and wants to keep it that way.
They just show Lisa sex between eric and Ann.
Fortunately, the sex itself is not shown, everything happens behind a closed door, it is only mentioned that the sounds of sex are heard, and that Eric comes off to the fullest.

I think the author did not finish the branches of seduction by Eric of Lisa and Alice, however they were clearly planned.
 

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thanks for the advice, in fact it is more important for me to have more scenes with Ann, just the presence of yoga does not imply more contact with her? Or is it not particularly played out in this route?

Victor Moro

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thank you
 

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Here I disagree with you in the Game, Eric can sleep with Alice, and judging by the guides, he can also seduce Lisa.
The only ones Eric has sex with at all, are Ann and Kira. That's it.

It's not a case of "Oh we just didn't see it", it didn't happen.
 

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The only ones Eric has sex with at all, are Ann and Kira. That's it.

It's not a case of "Oh we just didn't see it", it didn't happen.
in the game it says in plain text that Eric is sleeping with Alice, when you give him her alcohol secret, he comes to her at 2 a.m. and locks herself in her room and the sounds of sex come from there, this is in the game.
 

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in the game it says in plain text that Eric is sleeping with Alice, when you give him her alcohol secret, he comes to her at 2 a.m. and locks herself in her room and the sounds of sex come from there, this is in the game.
Post a screenshot.
 

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You're missing one that actually backs up your statement. Take a screenshot of "sex noises at 2am".
What do you think Eric is doing in Alice’s room at 2-3 in the morning? And Max says in direct text, what is happening there, but he cannot see, because he is afraid of punishment.

If you wanted to listen to "real sounds", then alas, the game works without sounds)

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What do you think Eric is doing in Alice’s room at 2-3 in the morning?
Failing miserably at getting anything sexual with her.

And Max says in direct text, what is happening there, but he cannot see, because he is afraid of punishment.
He says "Looks like". He made an assumption, that turns out to be wrong when later asking Alice about it after Eric's out of the picture.
He cannot see, or hear what is going on.

You're jumping to the same conclusion that Max did, just like so many other idiots did at the time.

If you wanted to listen to "real sounds", then alas, the game works without sounds)
I never said anything about us hearing sounds, only for you to show where the game says anything at all about sex sounds (I said post a screenshot of it for a reason). Which you cannot do because it's never mentioned at all. You made it up.
 

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Failing miserably at getting anything sexual with her.



He says "Looks like". He made an assumption, that turns out to be wrong when later asking Alice about it after Eric's out of the picture.
He cannot see, or hear what is going on.

You're jumping to the same conclusion that Max did, just like so many other idiots did at the time.



I never said anything about us hearing sounds, only for you to show where the game says anything at all about sex sounds (I said post a screenshot of it for a reason). Which you cannot do because it's never mentioned at all. You made it up.
He failed miserably and therefore visits her 2 times a week?

Alice can’t say anything, because the game has already said 20 times that after drinking, she doesn’t remember anything in the morning, Eric uses this, and Max uses it by slipping sweets on her.

"Looks like" this is a figure of speech, not an assumption, in the Russian language this text does not look so two -digit.
 
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He failed miserably and therefore visits her 2 times a week?
Of course. Just like Max's failures at most things, he keeps trying until he succeeds.

Alice can’t say anything, because the game has already said 20 times that after drinking, she doesn’t remember anything in the morning, Eric uses this, and Max uses it by slipping sweets on her.
Her saying that she doesn't remember things after having alcohol is good enough for you, but her saying nothing happened isn't?
So you're saying she's telling the truth when trying to excuse giving her own brother oral sex, but lying about sexual relations with Eric... How convenient for you.

The entire point of when she says nothing happened, is DS telling the audience that nothing happened, when originally something was supposed to happen. All the pushback on the things Eric did/would do lead DS to capitulate to the demands of idiots who don't understand when something is and isn't ntr.

"Looks like" this is a figure of speech, not an assumption,
It's a figure of speech that's employed when making an assumption based on available evidence.
The only evidence Max has at that point is that Eric's in her room at that time. Your evidence is Max's assumption, which is baseless.

in the Russian language this text does not look so two -digit.
And in English that just looks like gibberish.
Seriously, that last line makes no sense. Either on its own or as part of a sentence.

Also, the only guide that's of any value for this game is the second post in the walkthrough & questions thread, made by a1fox3.
It was made as the game was being released.
 
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Of course. Just like Max's failures at most things, he keeps trying until he succeeds.



Her saying that she doesn't remember things after having alcohol is good enough for you, but her saying nothing happened isn't?
So you're saying she's telling the truth when trying to excuse giving her own brother oral sex, but lying about sexual relations with Eric... How convenient for you.

The entire point of when she says nothing happened, is DS telling the audience that nothing happened, when originally something was supposed to happen. All the pushback on the things Eric did/would do lead DS to capitulate to the demands of idiots who don't understand when something is and isn't ntr.



It's a figure of speech that's employed when making an assumption based on available evidence.
The only evidence Max has at that point is that Eric's in her room at that time. Your evidence is Max's assumption, which is baseless.



And in English that just looks like gibberish.
Seriously, that last line makes no sense. Either on its own or as part of a sentence.

Also, the only guide that's of any value for this game is the second post in the walkthrough & questions thread, made by a1fox3.
It was made as the game was being released.

Continues to close with her alone in her bedroom at 2-3 am, then don't you think it's strange that Alice doesn't even mention this fact? Oh yeah, she doesn't remember anything.

It is quite logical that since she does not remember the H event, then it did not exist with respect to her gaze. So she can't lie about it

She also says that nothing happened, even when nothing really happened, which is basically a handy gag for both directions of the plot since I repeat she doesn't remember anything! She does not lie or tell the truth, this secret of her relationship with Eric remains only between Eric, Max and the Player. As well as the secret of Eric himself remains between Max, Kira and the Player.

I'm watching you NTR connoisseur? Because for me this game has only elements of NTR, but is not NTR at its core, just like the game has elements of femdom and BDSM, but the game is not about that.

This figure of speech is used not only on the basis of an assumption, but also to assert that you apparently did not learn Russian well at school, if you had it, of course.

And yes, my English is far from the best, so sorry.
 

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Continues to close with her alone in her bedroom at 2-3 am, then don't you think it's strange that Alice doesn't even mention this fact? Oh yeah, she doesn't remember anything.
This is the point at which the bad writing is rubbing off on you.
You seriously think that Eric would stop after only one failure, and never try again. You're an idiot.

She doesn't mention it, because she has no reason to.
She doesn't care that her mother's boyfriend is a scumbag trying to seduce her.

It is quite logical that since she does not remember the H event, then it did not exist with respect to her gaze. Because she can't lie about it.
You're assuming (still) that she's not lying about not remembering, when it's more logical that saying she couldn't remember was a lie to convince Max.

She also says that nothing happened when nothing really happened, which is basically a handy gag for both directions of the plot since I repeat she doesn't remember anything! She does not lie or tell the truth, this secret of her relationship with Eric remains only between Eric, Max and the Player. As well as the secret of Eric himself remains between Max, Kira and the Player.
You do realise the state someone would be in to have consumed enough alcohol for it affect their memory, right?
At no point have we seen Alice that drunk. At all.

There's more evidence that she lied about that, than there is for your assertion that she lies about nothing happening with Eric.

I'm watching you NTR connoisseur?
What the fuck are you even saying here?

Because for me this game has only elements of NTR, but is not NTR at its core
It doesn't have any ntr.
There are no love interests for Max, only "fuck interests". The closest thing to a love interest, is Lisa, purely down to them becoming (unofficial) boyfriend & girlfriend.

This figure of speech is used not only on the basis of an assumption, but also to assert that you apparently did not learn Russian well at school, if you had it, of course.
You're still writing gibberish. That figure of speech has absolutely nothing to do with what languages someone does or does not speak.

Given that I'm clearly not Russian, and don't speak (nor any interest in learning) Russian, then I'm obviously not from any country where it's a language that's taught in school. Which narrows it down to most likely be an English speaking country.
 

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This is the point at which the bad writing is rubbing off on you.
You seriously think that Eric would stop after only one failure, and never try again. You're an idiot.

She doesn't mention it, because she has no reason to.
She doesn't care that her mother's boyfriend is a scumbag trying to seduce her.



You're assuming (still) that she's not lying about not remembering, when it's more logical that saying she couldn't remember was a lie to convince Max.



You do realise the state someone would be in to have consumed enough alcohol for it affect their memory, right?
At no point have we seen Alice that drunk. At all.

There's more evidence that she lied about that, than there is for your assertion that she lies about nothing happening with Eric.



What the fuck are you even saying here?



It doesn't have any ntr.
There are no love interests for Max, only "fuck interests". The closest thing to a love interest, is Lisa, purely down to them becoming (unofficial) boyfriend & girlfriend.



You're still writing gibberish. That figure of speech has absolutely nothing to do with what languages someone does or does not speak.

Given that I'm clearly not Russian, and don't speak (nor any interest in learning) Russian, then I'm obviously not from any country where it's a language that's taught in school. Which narrows it down to most likely be an English speaking country.
It's funny to watch how the mani world of a person collapses and he goes into complete denial, moving on to an insult to the individual.

I would believe you if he tries to seduce her during the day, but he comes at 2-3 in the morning, when she usually sleeps, if they have nothing, then he must give her great discomfort with these visits.

The whole situation was smoothly brought by the author initially to this moment, there are no revelations that Alice can be used while she is intoxicated.

This is not about the average person in real life, but about a specific game character, to whom the author prescribed the condition that she loses her head even from a drop of alcohol and acts as an aphrodisiac with a convenient memory shutdown (this is another trigger for a fetish)

Do you think there is a lot of alcohol in 1 chocolate candy? However, it is enough for her to give her own brother a footjob during a massage.

You yourself began to stutter about NTR, apparently you have some kind of fad on this score.

And for the record, NTR does not imply that the characters must be a couple, this genre is somewhat deeper than just cheating. First of all, there is pressure on the feeling of jealousy, and on the feelings of jealousy of the player, and not the protagonist, since the protagonist himself is often not at all aware of any events taking place behind closed doors. And if incest is also attached to this case, then probably half of Japanese NTR games are based on the fact that your mother / sister is being fucked by a newly arrived stepfather / uncle or someone else.

About the figure of speech, this is not nonsense, the author of the game is Russian and originally wrote the text of the game in Russian, therefore it is not surprising that part of the text in another language may sound more vague when translated.
 
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It's funny to watch how the mani world of a person collapses and he goes into complete denial
Mani world????
Whatever auto-translate you're using is terrible. If you're not using one, then maybe you should, because that's definitely not an English language term.

If I'm in denial, then you're at the bottom of the amazon. ;)

And for the record, NTR does not imply that the characters must be a couple
Where did I say that it did?

Also, NTR is a catch-all term for three genres... For the record.

The whole situation was smoothly brought by the author initially to this moment, there are no revelations that Alice can be used while she is intoxicated.
There's nothing in this VN's writing that's done smoothly.
The only thing less smooth is your insistence, based upon no credible evidence whatsoever, that anything happened between Alice and Eric.

If you're taking Alice at her word regarding alcohol and her memory, then you have to take her at her word that nothing happens between her and Eric.
 
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