Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[polywog]

Max is definitely a villain if not THE villain. But Eric being the hero... Not sure I can behind that. Is Eric less evil than Max? from what we know so far, that is entirely possible to argue and has merits to the point but make no mistake Eric is also a 'bad' character. And not the rough-background evil-turned-good character in some media, just straight bad. It is impressive that Max is so fucked-up that he can make Eric look like a hero to some. Got to give DS credit for that.

I'd be interested in a poll to see who people viewed as the "hero" in this game. Kira maybe?

Our preconceptions can dramatically alter the way we perceive the world. There is a saying attributed to the prominent writer Anaïs Nin that reflects this idea:

We don’t see things as they are; we see them as we are.

Kira is beyond a doubt, the most treacherous character in the game. While the game offers you, the player, the opportunity, to struggle with your personal emotions, prior to executing your evil deeds.... Kira, ice in her veins, shows no remorse whatsoever.

If we are to believe in science, as an explanation of the world around us, and we take to heart, how the first law of thermodynamics attempts to redefine yin and yang. Energy, cannot be created or destroyed. It helps us to understand the "balance of power" forces of good and evil.

In the game, there is a scale used to show this balance.

Evil cannot exist without good, and vice versa. It can change hands.

Your influence = level of corruption, of your victim
Your evil deeds tip the balance of power, between good and evil.

 

[Shocker]

Our preconceptions can dramatically alter the way we perceive the world. There is a saying attributed to the prominent writer Anaïs Nin that reflects this idea:

We don’t see things as they are; we see them as we are.

Kira is beyond a doubt, the most treacherous character in the game. While the game offers you, the player, the opportunity, to struggle with your personal emotions, prior to executing your evil deeds.... Kira, ice in her veins, shows no remorse whatsoever.

If we are to believe in science, as an explanation of the world around us, and we take to heart, how the first law of thermodynamics attempts to redefine yin and yang. Energy, cannot be created or destroyed. It helps us to understand the "balance of power" forces of good and evil.

In the game, there is a scale used to show this balance.

Evil cannot exist without good, and vice versa. It can change hands.

Your influence = level of corruption, of your victim
Your evil deeds tip the balance of power, between good and evil.

Well... I'm not sure how you went from stating science as an explanation for our surroundings and the laws of thermodynamics to the philosophy of yin and yang; they do not correlate in any way, at least outside of pseudoscience babble. Ignoring that, it's more than just our preconceptions but also our perspectives. To me, Kira is the only one honest about her true self and motivations from the start (unless there's some plot twist in the future which is absolutely possible). She may be a twisted nympho who wants nothing more than to either corrupt or help Max corrupt the family but we know that. No other character can claim the same, including Eric who we eventually find out has some pretty big secrets.

 

[polywog]

Well... I'm not sure how you went from stating science as an explanation for our surroundings and the laws of thermodynamics to the philosophy of yin and yang; they do not correlate in any way, at least outside of pseudoscience babble. Ignoring that, it's more than just our preconceptions but also our perspectives. To me, Kira is the only one honest about her true self and motivations from the start (unless there's some plot twist in the future which is absolutely possible). She may be a twisted nympho who wants nothing more than to either corrupt or help Max corrupt the family but we know that. No other character can claim the same, including Eric who we eventually find out has some pretty big secrets.

When a country is deemed evil, allied forces come together to defeat them.
Evil cannot be defeated, only through the transfer of power, can you weaken your enemy.
Allied forces chose to commit the most heinous act, calling it "necessary" to absorb evil to weaken their foe, they nuked Japan, and became all powerful evil.

Likewise, police are asked to carryout necessary evil, in stopping criminals.

Fighting back, you take power from a bully. In Ann and Kira's case. Kira (survivor) did what was necessary, abandoning her sister, she escaped, but not without consequence. Ann (passive) was further, and fully victimized.
Kira does not regret, the evil she took on, seeing her sister's fate enforces her decision, and allows her to embrace the evil that saved her. Hence her immunity to good/evil.

You are correct that science has yet to understand or explain the mysteries of the world, don't rub it in their face, at least they are trying.

 

[wytchfyre]

I think the discussions about this game are more entertaining than the game itself...

 

[wytchfyre]

Hey, guys, I don't know if it is asked before but since there are 185 pages I just couldn't find it. So I am having problems with saving the game. It just not saves it. Also when I try to use savegames that I downloaded from this website, continue button is not active on the starting screen. By the way, yes there is a "Save" folder in the directory of the game. Thanks in advance.

I just realized that you actually have to create a save file...i had erased mine somehow

 

[gold]

You guys are discussing a porn game which developer didn't spend half of that time developing the characters nor thinking about the characters' depth. I highly doubt that DS took into consideration what you guys are discussing whilst he was creating the plot and characters as he can't even make the game coherent (referring to TCMS post).

Tbh one thing he needs to focus on and that will piss some people off because it takes time and doesn't give many scenes is the coherence. Sister let's you watch her topless, but doesn't let you in on her room in the weekend when she's just wearing panties... mom let's you massage her naked, but don't you dare try to see her naked in the shower at night... Older sister let's you watch her cam shows and her naked top in the pool but don't you dare walk in on her changing her top...

Small little events and small little aspects but it would really bright up the game to see all of these small little things added. So you really see a progress in the house at all times instead of just seeing the progress when you start a new step of an opportunity.

I agree, I did not understand how Lisa got mad when I walked into the room whilst she was changing even though she sleeps topless, and then later on when I walked into her whilst she was bathing even though we had anal sex (saw each other naked)
The thing is after the 0.5 update, everyone is topless at the pool, so why would they even get mad if you walk into them changing since you've seen all off them naked anyway, and they are comfortable with you seeing them naked.

I also would like to see more progress with the aunt bathroom scene at 3:00 AM and also the pool scene.

 

[riexor]

You guys are discussing a porn game which developer didn't spend half of that time developing the characters nor thinking about the characters' depth. I highly doubt that DS took into consideration what you guys are discussing whilst he was creating the plot and characters as he can't even make the game coherent (referring to TCMS post).

Look if the internet isn't for porn, ridiculous fan fiction/theories and arguing anonymously I don't know what it's for.

 

[mmmonsterkill]

Look if the internet isn't for porn, ridiculous fan fiction/theories and arguing anonymously I don't know what it's for.

im saving that quote!

 

[NightShadeX]

Wow ! People in here are taking this fantasy and argument to another new level ( Philosophy styles - asking eternal questions). Just chime cuz it is too funny...LMAO !

 

[NightShadeX]

I think the discussions about this game are more entertaining than the game itself...

I like you ! I'm coming back every day to check on the discussion now.

 

[BobBobbinston]

I've missed the last few updates, but have been reading through the posts - Is Eric gone now?
I was going NTR route, letting him fuck bitches(family), I only wanted the Aunt...is this possible anymore?

 

[Hlextor]

New Mom Image 0.6

 

[Deleted member 10214]

New Mom Image 0.6

))

 

[neodtst]

Tbh one thing he needs to focus on and that will piss some people off because it takes time and doesn't give many scenes is the coherence. Sister let's you watch her topless, but doesn't let you in on her room in the weekend when she's just wearing panties... mom let's you massage her naked, but don't you dare try to see her naked in the shower at night... Older sister let's you watch her cam shows and her naked top in the pool but don't you dare walk in on her changing her top...

Small little events and small little aspects but it would really bright up the game to see all of these small little things added. So you really see a progress in the house at all times instead of just seeing the progress when you start a new step of an opportunity.

Hey thats really good, I remember in 0.3 if Max give in to Eric , and on the 4th(i think) peep on them, Max got caught , but Eric actually managed to convince Ann thats good sex-ed for Max. And thats the end (with end of version msg), I thought . Usually Max get kick out of Ann room for watching her change , but on the next day , when Ann kicking him out , Max actually brought up the issue , and Ann relent and think maybe its a good idea for him to watch Ann change for sake of his "developement" . Its a small thing but not even a big sexual scene, but the efforts make to make the continuation really make me "whoa" , now that some great story flow and game continuity attention to minor details. In fact it actually pique my "naughty" interest what else can Eric convince Ann do for the sake of her son's "development" hehehe. Unfortunately that line story pretty much died-ed there... maybe too distracted or obstructed to continue I guess.

I've had this NTR discussion far too many times, so forgive my reluctance to start it again. I hope this will be the last time. NTR doesn't have a specific definition. You're making it very specific because Max doesn't have an established relationship with anyone in this game. That's not the point. NTR is labeled with any jealous feeling that makes one FEEL like their interest was taken from them. Whether it's their's to be stolen or not is irrelevant and that's the point. NTR is based strictly on a feeling, most of the time, an irrational feeling, not a specification. That's what makes it so controversial. Either way, the NTR definition topic was NOT the point I was making whatsoever in my previous discussion.

So what happen to "cuck the fuck outta you" , now its a transient jealous feeling??
Now your argument is NTR doesn't have specific definition , and you can change whatever u want and whenever you want to suit your argument?
Really then , I play to your (now) tune , and see what NTR change later to your "not specific definition".
So "NTR is labeled with any jealous feeling that makes one FEEL like their interest was taken from them" your quote now before you change to any new context base on the argument that NTR has no specific definition. Do you think Eric will feel jealous if u steal Ann away from him?
question to yourself - "Are you okie in taking Ann away from Eric"?
Frankly we all know the answer to that.. if you say OK , u are OK to NTR.. simple full stop fact. If you say yes and still wanna argue some silly pt to push into your definition of NTR , u either belong to
a) I am okie with NTR as long as I am the one doing it , and I don't like to be NTRed
b) I just wanna screw every girl myself (regardless they are sombody's else wives , gf , sweetheart , bitches) , NO other guys can show their dicks in MY game.
Given that grp A ppl just don't want to share what are theirs , and don't mind sharing what is not theirs (don't trigger jealousy). And judging by so call anti NTR responses , lets be honest , its (b) right?

Why on earth do guys keep using anti-NTR to mask your true fantasy , thats is to screw everyone without competition is beyond my understanding. Its not even a bad thing.

All I'm saying is that this very discussion is proving my point that I was making in my statement about Eric being a "great villain". The everlasting argument of NTR is the reason for Eric's relevance as someone said he was a great villain and I wanted to shut that BS down. It had nothing to do with definitions or specifics. I simply made a general statement to debunk Eric being called a "great villain" due to the hate he generates.

Sorry I am not being a troll or anything , but I really can't understand what you trying to convey .. and I apologize first in case you think I am trolling you and cannot give a comment on this.
I think it goes on the line of "He is successful at doing bad things , but he's not a great villain?" Again I am really not trolling , I really trying to figure that out tbh.

 

[balabasuu]

Kira is beyond a doubt, the most treacherous character in the game. While the game offers you, the player, the opportunity, to struggle with your personal emotions, prior to executing your evil deeds.... Kira, ice in her veins, shows no remorse whatsoever.

Kira is a nymphomaniac, and she has no reason to repent. I doubt that she has anything to do with the "commandments of the Bible"!

 

[crkaki]

can anybody share the new post?

 

[Skylaroo]

I've had this NTR discussion far too many times, so forgive my reluctance to start it again. I hope this will be the last time. NTR doesn't have a specific definition. You're making it very specific because Max doesn't have an established relationship with anyone in this game. That's not the point. NTR is labeled with any jealous feeling that makes one FEEL like their interest was taken from them.

Do you realize how contradictory you sounded? "NTR doesn't have a specific definition, but let me tell you what NTR means, folks!" You can't say something doesn't have a definition, then straight away turning around 180-degrees and define what it is.

One serious question though. Where do you get your definition of NTR is any jealous feeling that makes one feel like their interest was taken from them? @Vayleton showed a good source of what NTR is

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and it specifically mentioned two must-have condition for something to be considered as NTR, neither of which fit BB.

1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.) that jealousy is a factor.
Max is obviously a family member, but the one really important thing here is that he is not in a close relationship with any of the family members. Ann thought of him as a loser who just stayed at home doing nothing. Alice thought of him as a loser little bro pervert who is a nuisance twerp. Lisa thought of him as a loser big bro pervert who doesn't even know how to kiss. The moment Eric entered the storyline, he is already far ahead of Max in terms of how they were viewed by the family members. If you want to force it, it's Max who is trying to steal the women from Eric, and not the other way around.

2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail.
Eric-Ann sex scene is not explicitly shown to Max. If he stayed around in the living room, Ann got embarrassed and angry at him. Another way is Max peeping on them, which is again, not explicitly shown as it was Max who actively peeped instead of Eric showboating the sex to him. Same with Eric-Kira in a sense that Max who walked in on them and not them showing it to him. Eric-Alice scene is not even shown at all.

So just a thought, maybe it's you who completely misunderstand what NTR is? Still hoping for some sort of source of your definition of NTR though to better understand where you're coming from.

 

[TCMS]

can anybody share the new post?

No! >=(

Ok fine...


As always huge thanks to the anon who provided the pic. You're awesome <3

 

[crkaki]

thanks

 

[Hlextor]

Holy fuck! She's waiting for Max in this Lingerie!? She is so awesome hot!! I'm looking forward to play this scene! :heartcoveredeyes::kissingheart: