I can´t believe... either Shardoom and i are having a strange flavor in porngames or maybe still you... and few others here around?! We have extremely discussed Erics place in the family on patreon hundredfold. Look! Mom got acquainted with a stranger from her work. His first impression is ... he is an asshole. He told Max he wants to fuck his entire family and he will send Max to a camp. Mom´s role in this game is total foolishness and ignorance over her own family. She did not believe her own son, that something is getting wrong with Eric, Alice Lingerie / Eric masturbate scene, Lisa SexId, ... and so on. And she wants Eric married after one week?! How dump! I´ve been written about it before. It sucks. And do you like this situation? You play Max and not Eric! Did you recogniced that? Max role before got rid Eric is an abject misery. He is only a poor spectator in a bad movie. I don´t want to offend you, but if anyone like this, so he needs an extravagant sexual imagination. Like SM, NTR or what else? I´m not in this genre. Yes, i find 100 similar games around, but not in this quality and with this story. And i think you will find your lovely games also.
Long post time again.. sorry
First of all i must say i got nothing against anti NTR, coz i realize NTR discussion is always met with a lot of hostility , though i do think NTR is wrongfully use in this context.
regardless what NTR is truely defined , We can all agree on "someone stole , someone get stolen". That basic idea.
IRL I not ashamed to admit that I am those who rather NTR others than to be NTRed. Which is what all the so called anti-NTR fanatics are really are. (Come on lets be honest..marcus's mom in Dreams of Desire? , Tom's Mom in icstor incest story? Everyone really have no NTR issue there even its your best friend's mom that your friend got sexual interest in before u)
So I totally understand you guys pt of view and hold this view IRL, just not sure why u all are bashing NTR instead of just admitting that we are those alpha male bull type that just wanna screw everyone(NTR or not) and not wanting to share.
BUT BUT , thats capital BUT for many of us , you have to realize our stance change in-game. While some ppl think they are really Max , and will do every thing in Max favour including protecting his women which I totally will do IRL , others like me don't associate ourselves with Max , or any in game characters. I am neither "twerp face" Max nor "cuntface" Eric . I am simply playing a game. Just like I use the example of playing terrorist in CS , i can head shot a CT without a single thread of guilt. I don't have a social responsibility to make sure Max get the girls or Eric don't get the girls or vice versa for that matters..seriously man come on
In one set of save game I stomp cuntface Eric , in another , I let Max get stomp. I seriously dun give a damn if Max get NTR or Eric got NTR or whoever got NTR , just as long as there is a good story line to it and I get myself entertained. I don't really lose anything just an entertaining story line. But like Blob say , what I am worried about is the game degenerating in a fuckbox queue with all the ladies waiting in line wanting to screw Max or Eric without rhyme or reason. (your cock is big, lets fuk) which is exactly suddenly happening in the Olivia route. The build up with all the drugs then suddenly a nonsensical twist to let do 3some coz yours is better? Totally disjointed. I don't even wanna start on how Ann's boss's boss is a fake ID criminal man. Thats is totally ridiculous. Unknown hacker contacted on internet can get rid of someone without trace? I wish I got that link..
AND to understand what we meant by what blob say about "I don't particularly care about NTR" , IF a developer creae a game and you play a guy , whose wife/gf keep fuking everyone in the game without reason(you got big cock , lets fuk , ...next ...rinse repeated) just to depict cucked NTR , i be pretty pissed and bored and turn off if i play this darn game too. Just becoz NTR happening doesn't mean the game great for ppl who don't mind in game NTR. So please stop that silly concept.
But we ARE concerned about the direction of the game , coz I think DS have a story(its was great in 0.2-0.3) in mind when he started this game. Now he is bowing to the so call NTR concerns , which is sapping the story entertainment value (lets not start on this NTR make things interesting or not shitz again okie) and he making things up as he goes , it seem more like a tool to extract $ ( see my conspiracy theory post =D ) than the dream he wanted to build in the first place. $40 polls determined the direction , more like "buy your route" game?. DS aint making a game he wanted anymore , he just making pictures that $40 donors wanna see (from a guy with ideas to just a greedy SOB) , and making some weird connections to link them together. I can imagine the loss of passion , maybe why now the loss of quality? No longer the artist but a guy raking in dough churning out pots and pans or whatever his customers wanna buy (not that that is wrong , just that I did liked what he envisioned , its was different from the others, but well everyone gotto make a living)