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If it has not been made clear while playing this game that Lisa is secretly in love with her brother then this is the last clue to it.

1st clue was in the beginning of the story where it says she always went to Max when there was a problem.
2nd what teenage girl would give up a bedroom to sleep in the same room with her brother.
And there are more smaller clues up to these pic.
These pic's are the clincher that Lisa has been and still in love with Max.
 

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If it has not been made clear while playing this game that Lisa is secretly in love with her brother then this is the last clue to it.

1st clue was in the beginning of the story where it says she always went to Max when there was a problem.
2nd what teenage girl would give up a bedroom to sleep in the same room with her brother.
And there are more smaller clues up to these pic.
These pic's are the clincher that Lisa has been and still in love with Max.
true but max is the dumbest fuck alive.maybe if he gave his sisters a hug and a kiss once in a while we wouldnt have to drag it out to 0.8 or 0.9 for real sex.AND more importantly he wouldnt need kira and corrupt and get even a handjob from family members.maz owes everything to kira
 
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In essence what you are saying is his ONLY purpose is to get rid of him...Well why is he there at all?
What's the purpose of having Joker just to be beaten by Batman? Why is Joker there at all? Because a villain makes a hero. A good hero needs a good villain to create a good story.

I also disagree with Eric's only purpose is to get rid of him. As I posted in the one you quoted, I offered a branch where you become allies with Eric instead. Allying with Eric is actually a big bonus to Max because Eric started as someone who is far more powerful than Max (imagine if you're the class nerd that no girl looked at, then the popular handsome dude becomes your friend, and suddenly you have access to a lot of beautiful girls). Allying with Eric would allow Max get what he wanted easier and quicker. However, the problem with adult game is that a lot of the players are so easily offended by the thought of another male character than the main character, so they naturally don't want Eric regardless of what he could offer in the game.

Imagine if you have the following choices:
1. No sex because the other characters consider Max as a loser.
2. Yes sex, but with the help of Eric and because the other characters listen to Eric.

Which one will you choose? Despite the clear Yes/No sex, I guarantee you 100% there will be people who chose no sex just because they don't like Eric no matter what.

Lastly, I want to emphasize again that I have no problem with what DS is going to do with the future content. I'm not asking for more Eric content. I just personally think that Eric is a missed opportunity that could've been used much better had DS been given the chance to explore the storyline further.
 

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If it has not been made clear while playing this game that Lisa is secretly in love with her brother then this is the last clue to it.

1st clue was in the beginning of the story where it says she always went to Max when there was a problem.
2nd what teenage girl would give up a bedroom to sleep in the same room with her brother.
And there are more smaller clues up to these pic.
These pic's are the clincher that Lisa has been and still in love with Max.
I like the idea of Lisa being in love with her brother, and I agree there are definite hints of it. But this scene to me could just be her teasing her brother. I must have skipped over this part of the game when I used saves I downloaded to get around Eric. I'll need to try to find it now to get the proper context. Maybe when the next release comes out, I'll have to replay from the top, with a workaround in hand to deal with Eric as painlessly as possible, of course. Regardless of my interpretation, I would love to see Lisa be in love with Max, and have sex with him because of it versus training or being paid to be his girlfriend. I want both more love and lust in the game, versus trickery. But I love the trickery and blackmail too. I'd even enjoy darker paths where Max forces his family, just so I can go that route if I choose.
 

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What's the purpose of having Joker just to be beaten by Batman? Why is Joker there at all? Because a villain makes a hero. A good hero needs a good villain to create a good story.
Because the POINT of the game is to Fight Crime as Batman!!!!!!!
Joker is the CRIMINAL!

The point in this game is to fuck your family!!!
Is Eric your Family?
DO you want to fuck Eric?
Do you get off more on seeing dick than Family members?

Does Eric in any way shape or form help you get laid?
Do you even need him to do that considering after you get rid of him you get this HAREM you all cry about the game having once your boyfriend is gone?
 

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I like the idea of Lisa being in love with her brother, and I agree there are definite hints of it. But this scene to me could just be her teasing her brother. I must have skipped over this part of the game when I used saves I downloaded to get around Eric. I'll need to try to find it now to get the proper context. Maybe when the next release comes out, I'll have to replay from the top, with a workaround in hand to deal with Eric as painlessly as possible, of course. Regardless of my interpretation, I would love to see Lisa be in love with Max, and have sex with him because of it versus training or being paid to be his girlfriend. I want both more love and lust in the game, versus trickery. But I love the trickery and blackmail too. I'd even enjoy darker paths where Max forces his family, just so I can go that route if I choose.
I have a save uploaded here at day 111 that may be of a help if you want to try it out. Post 120 here
Just read about it for I have done very little of the quest for this save.
 
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The point in this game is to fuck your family!!!
Is Eric your Family?
DO you want to fuck Eric?
Do you get off more on seeing dick than Family members?
Honest question, why are you so triggered just by reading the name Eric? That's a lot of assumption being thrown around without no hint whatsoever. I never said Eric is my family. I never said I want to fuck Eric either.

My posts have always been about how Eric would help Max to get to the women of the house:
1. Going to war -> by turning all the women against him (difficult route)
2. Allies -> by using Eric's money/power/authority to get the women (easy route)

Does Eric in any way shape or form help you get laid?
So yes, Eric most definitely could help Max get laid if used properly in the game. You don't seem to understand how incapable Max is as a character. All the action he got was through help by others (Kira, Kate, Olivia), or without consent (giving "candy", installing hidden camera). The lone exception is Kira because she's a porn star with her own agenda who uses Max to further advance her goal. The difference between them is that they are woman while Eric is a man. As mentioned before, there are a lot of people who are so offended by the thought of having another male character regardless of what the purpose is. Your post clearly proves that. But OK. I'll apologize for bringing up Eric. I thought a conversation/discussion could be had. I am wrong.
 
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I don't think most guys are favorably disposed towards some strange guy coming into their lives and trying to screw their family members. Or strange guys trying to screw the women they're romantically interested in. In this game, Eric represents both. People mention stuff like "you can get it so Eric only sleeps with your mother and peeps on your sister" like that's no big deal. It's at best a partial victory, but to compare it to the Batman vs. Joker metaphor earlier, it's like Batman working out a deal with Joker where he only kills Robin or Batgirl instead of both, and you're supposed to call that a victory.

Max does need to be better at getting stuff accomplished in the game. But the difference between Kira, Kate, and Olivia helping Max versus Eric is that they're less annoying, and they don't have cocks. Plus you end up having sex with them all. The fact that they may or may not also get involved with the family members you want somehow makes it sexier, rather than diminishing it, as it does when most of us hear about Eric doing stuff with the characters, or actually seeing it. There could be a male rival in the game that made things interesting, but it isn't Eric. At this point, it could never be Eric. The constant arguments in this thread make that clear.
 

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Isn't anybody concern that after DS tell us at 9 aug that we will get more previews and polls,so far we actualy get less previews than any other version.And there is no time to change that,unless he upload like 2 per day and brake the rule no previews at 31 and 01.
 
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Honest question, why are you so triggered just by reading the name Eric? That's a lot of assumption being thrown around without no hint whatsoever. I never said Eric is my family. I never said I want to fuck Eric either.

My posts have always been about how Eric would help Max to get to the women of the house:
1. Going to war -> by turning all the women against him (difficult route)
2. Allies -> by using Eric's money/power/authority to get the women (easy route)
Does he help Max?
Can Max get laid while or after Eric turns everyone against him?
Can Max get laid if he stays his friend?
Please post the walkthrough for these tracks because I (and no one else) has ever heard about these paths you say make Eric a keeper....

IF perhaps the Friend route led to helping Max it would be one thing.... but the path AS IS is nothing more than Be My Friend, I will give you money for Cameras and to keep me impotent but the deal is You can't have any of the women because they are all mine!



So yes, Eric most definitely could help Max get laid if used properly in the game.
But too bad he wasn't and DS isn't about to go rewriting it now is he?
Does he help Max? NO! So this point you are making is just a pipe dream and lame excuse that the NTR continues to be developed since Max doesn't need his help fucking the family...All he has to do is get rid of Eric!
As long as Eric is your friend the HAREM is his...
As long as Eric is around you never get any shot at the Mother because you can't get the Movies until She loses her job. You can get him to give up the rest of the family but the mother is his and his alone!

Could he eventually be developed to help Max get his mother? Sure you already got blackmail on him...
But what is the point of adding more Grinding on Eric (pun intended) when all you need to do is get rid of him, Stop developing more content which at BEST means just getting a different path to Mom or more NTR/Peeping. And get everyone without having to deal with him at all.

What pray tell does having sex WITH Eric there, better than having the entire family without him and make the sex more exciting to you?

Sure he COULD help, but he doesn't. And if he was going to help he should have done it from the get go when you had a choice of being a friend and letting him help or being the enemy and defeating him.

What he is is just Wishy Washy choice of Lose, Lose less, Lose More, Or just take him out of the game (this DEFEATING of him you all seem to say is his role yet can't bring yourselves to let happen and need to see more of him because you haven't lost enough yet and can't stand winning without him only with keeping him...)

I chose DEFEAT as you say...And I see no point in wasting anymore time rendering scenes with a guy in it when DS could be rendering more scenes with the people I actually want to fuck in this game!
 
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How do i get the new scene with Alice in the lounge when i give her a foot massage? thought there was a new one for version 7 but not been able to get it. Is there a specific route i have to spam for it to happen?
 

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Isn't anybody concern that after DS tell us at 9 aug that we will get more previews and polls,so far we actualy get less previews than any other version.And there is no time to change that,unless he upload like 2 per day and brake the rule no previews at 31 and 01.
maybe he is scared to see his previews pirated here the moment he releases them since he scouts here.x'D​
 

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How do i get the new scene with Alice in the lounge when i give her a foot massage? thought there was a new one for version 7 but not been able to get it. Is there a specific route i have to spam for it to happen?
 

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I think you are completely missing my point here....
I am not arguing that Eric should be removed because he already can be removed...SO we can get all the content that is in this game that he stops us from getting as long as he is around...

What I am arguing against here is this notion that he is a CHALLENGE to be overcome...AND asking for more content for him or crying about how him being able to be removed RUINS this game which many of his fans seem to suggest.

You are correct, once he is gone the actual game starts! All the content becomes unlocked and you are free to have sex with your family!
BUT before he is gone the game is nothing more than a FRIEND HIM AND PEEP game or a ENEMY AND COCK BLOCK HIM. Game....The MC gets no sex (other than once with the Aunt and a repeatable BJ from her or Alice) for as long as Eric is around.

Yet folks keep saying Eric is the BEST PART of the game and he should be kept and more content created for HIM.
Which is the notion I find both ridiculous and a feeble excuse for trying to keep this game an NTR game and nothing else.
Ahh, guess I misread your post. To be honest, I wouldn't mind more Eric content, as long as it all happens during his normal stay time, as in it doesn't expand past the point of getting rid of him. I listed it elsewhere in this thread, but I think it would be awesome if Eric used Max as a surrogate after you give him impotent pills. He doesn't want Anne to know he has a problem, so max fills in, and you get some funky speech from Anne about why Eric suddenly got bigger, and watching Eric grimace from the statement. That would be worthwhile Eric content, stuff that makes you take him down a peg prior to getting rid of him. But I don't really care if they add more content for him, but if they did, that is what I would like to see. Empowering Max against Eric goes from an NTR slant to a beating up your bully viewpoint.
 

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I know and I will add Elena from DmD to make the ultiamte trio of tanned chicks.But sadly 40$ patrons who vote on that poll so far only choose mom and little sister.So far only the first month was for aunt and Alice get another one.
Pardon the curiosity, only been on this board for 2 weeks or so, but what is DmD?
 

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I don't think most guys are favorably disposed towards some strange guy coming into their lives and trying to screw their family members. Or strange guys trying to screw the women they're romantically interested in. In this game, Eric represents both. People mention stuff like "you can get it so Eric only sleeps with your mother and peeps on your sister" like that's no big deal. It's at best a partial victory, but to compare it to the Batman vs. Joker metaphor earlier, it's like Batman working out a deal with Joker where he only kills Robin or Batgirl instead of both, and you're supposed to call that a victory.
Good point about Eric representing both. However, I disagree with the partial victory conclusion because we never actually got to the finish line with Eric before he got pretty much abruptly removed from the game. This is why I think people wouldn't have problem with Eric had he been inserted into the game differently (i.e.: allow Max small victories here and there that would lead to an actual victory).

The metaphor of Batman vs Joker is not meant to portray BB as a game because Max is nowhere near like Batman other than both being the main character. It is simply to show how a good villain would make a good hero, and how a good hero needs a good villain. The biggest difference between Max and Batman is how incapable Max is. Thus, there is more sense for Max (weak) to work with Eric (strong), than Batman (strong) working with Joker (strong).

Like you said, Max needs to be better at getting stuff accomplished in the game. This is where Eric comes into the play:
1. As an ally, Eric would help Max accomplish stuff (by working with Eric) -> Weak working with Strong
2. An an enemy, Eric would allow Max to change from "incapable" into "capable" (by defeating Eric) -> Strong vs Strong (like Batman vs Joker)

What most pro-Eric people wanted is the second option, where Eric is given a lot of power, but for Max to finally overcome him and become powerful himself. This is a video game after all, and defeating the bad guy is part of the gameplay. At the moment, post-Eric, there is almost no gameplay (the porn script is as close as to a gameplay now) because now scenes just occur automatically as long as you're on the right time/day.

There could be a male rival in the game that made things interesting, but it isn't Eric. At this point, it could never be Eric. The constant arguments in this thread make that clear.
I agree. By now it's too late because to many people, Eric is already associated with a certain stereotype that DS cannot change anymore. The Eric plot line in the game is probably around 30% of what it could've been, but it is viewed by many as if it's already 100%. This is unfortunately part of the problem with periodic release style of game.
 

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DmD is Dating my Daughter and before you ask DoD is Dreams of Desire or in some rare case Dreaming of Dana.All these games deserves to be check at least.
Thats why I was asking =) didn't remember the sister in DmD, and I never played the Dana one, which I will check out now thanks to your recommendation.
 

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The impotency pills only last for that evening, so he's free to nail Ann in the morning, or later on in the week. And having sex with Ann by pretending to be Eric to me is a "meh" victory. I want Ann to know it's her son as he takes her. That's part of the fun of incest in my mind. She has to know it is her son, and be torn about it, or guilty a little bit, before her inhibitions fall away.

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The problem is that to many of us, the race is already lost once Eric starts screwing your family. After that, it's just trying to make the best of a bad situation. In other incest games, the bad guy screwing your sister would end the game. Instead, you're expected to keep going. I get that that is fun to some people. But people with that kink don't seem to get that others hate that.

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But he wasn't inserted properly. At least not in the context of an incest game, which many of us thought this was supposed to be. That can't be changed, barring a major rewrite. But I suspect people would still hate Eric.

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Max shouldn't be so weak though, just as Eric shouldn't be so strong. It's Eric's existence that's partially to blame for Max being so weak. In turn, it makes the player themselves feel weak, because they feel helpless against Eric and what he is doing. That's a turn-on to some, but again, it's agony to others. It would be more enjoyable to me if Max wasn't such a wuss, and if he were allowed to develop as a character. The game starts with Max becoming more capable via the online lessons and so on, but none of that really helps him against Eric, because it seems like you're just supposed to repeatedly fail against him.

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Why should we have to work with anyone at all though, let alone someone who is trying to have sex with the entire family? Working with Kira, Olivia, or Kate are one thing. Those are better thought out. Maybe it's old-fashioned thinking on my part, but I don't really see them as competition. There can be challenges added to the game that don't involve the MC being forced to accept being cucked to one degree or another. But for some reason when people say the game is too easy, they go immediately to "so we need Eric back", which is a huge leap.

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It's an incest game. As has been mentioned, the goal should be to have sex with certain people who are related to you. Sharing them could be part of that, but it should be optional, or at least more easily avoidable. Not partially avoidable, where he only screws some of them, or only gets blowjobs, or stuff like that. All the game needed was a way to get Eric out of there early, like maybe when he starts going after your sisters. Instead, when you try to use that or any other situation against him, it ends up blowing up in your face.

What pisses a lot of people off so much about Eric is that until he shows up, it's shaping up into a very nice incest game. Then it goes NTR, and seems designed to keep it that way. Without fan outcry, I think Eric would still be dominating the game, because I suspect that was the plan all along. To the extent that the backlash has reduced the difficulty of the game after Eric is gone is regretable. But bringing Eric back is not a solution. At least not if the problem is how to make an enjoyable incest game.
 
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