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Two questions about the new version:
This Vicky girl is in the Lisa GF paths or the Olivia GF paths, or both?
This new spider event (and the whole sleeping with Alice thing) is available after porn films and after the blog event?
Back from testing I just got the first convo on the spider quest at day 37, this is after meeting Kate for the 2nd time and after the 2nd photo shot with aunt Kira.

I will report back when the first time of trying to sleep with Alice because of spiders.
 

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yes, alice is not lisa sorry
and the walkthrough from the site I have already tried all
We can not answer game play question here then need to go to the other thread. Them's the rules there dude.:happyblush
 

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I'm sorry Silent but the old "It's not a complete game I can do whatever I want" is an excuse made by poor programmers who have coded themselves into a situation they aren't smart enough to code out of or had no clue what they were doing from the start anyway as they were just trying to get the money flowing into their pockets!
And any Dev that does such a thing to his users deserves to lose every supporter he has until such time as they learn the lesson that once the story has been released it can't be changed and if there is a problem they need to change what happens in the future of the game not what already happened in the past!
The excuse that it isn't complete applies to what comes next FAR BETTER than what has already transpired in the game.
I he can't figure out how to make the future events return to parts users may have not seen yet because they took a different path then this game is going to suck no matter what he tries to do because he isn't up to making a game at all.
Not exactly. Being flexible is a good sign for somebody who is being paid monthly to make what his payers want. It is why Eric isn't a thing anymore after you get rid of him. DS knew what he wanted to do at the start, and he chose a larger fanbase over making the game he wanted to make. I have no problem with Eric himself, as he is like a gateway boss to the best content, but I don't want anymore of him, and I am glad he isn't being used anymore. That was a flexible decision by DS. It isn't a sign of a bad dev, it is the sign of somebody who listens and adapts, both of which are really how you should live life outside of game making as well.

As for your last paragraph, the main issue I have with that is we are coming up on version 1.0. At any point after that, DS can pick a spot and call the game complete. It would be easier to retool Lisa's existing branches to merge them using existing art assets than to expect DS to make entirely new content to merge the two. It is both easier for DS, and gets rid of the only choice that forces you to replay if you want to see all the content the game has to offer.

And lastly, a game not being finished is the perfect time to say you are going to change something. I agree they shouldn't remake the entire game, or screw over patreon backers through milking, but redoing two branches so you aren't forced to pick between content does not seem like a bad change to me, especially due to the fact that it pops up on these very forums a lot, so it is a wanted feature. Think only DS would know if it was a majority wanted feature or not.
 

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Not exactly. Being flexible is a good sign for somebody who is being paid monthly to make what his payers want.
No it is a bad sign that shows the developer has no clue, plan or idea going into the project other than sapping money from people!
There is no reason on earth to rewrite the story in the middle of it!
It's like showing someone half the movie and then forcing them to start over to see what REALLY happened in the flick!

Truth is the fact DS has listened and waiting for polls to decide what his game was going to be is precisely the reason he has all these dead ends, lack of decent story and too many scenes that have nothing to do with the genre he advertised!
 

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Did he make these characters i have seen another game using the Ann model and another with Lisa and they are far in development
The characters are made out of .

What are those other games, if you don't mind my asking ?
 

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Not exactly. Being flexible is a good sign for somebody who is being paid monthly to make what his payers want. It is why Eric isn't a thing anymore after you get rid of him. DS knew what he wanted to do at the start, and he chose a larger fanbase over making the game he wanted to make. I have no problem with Eric himself, as he is like a gateway boss to the best content, but I don't want anymore of him, and I am glad he isn't being used anymore. That was a flexible decision by DS. It isn't a sign of a bad dev, it is the sign of somebody who listens and adapts, both of which are really how you should live life outside of game making as well.

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There I have to disagree. Patreon Backers ain't customer. They didn't buy any kind of content. People who belive that, are totally misunderstanding the concept of patreon. They donate in a tip jar of an artists. And they should do that, why they like what the artists does.
Sure, there artists, like DS, who also didn't understand this concept at all. And that is a problem, a big one. To dismiss your plans ain't flexibility. It only means that you didn't trust your plans. An adaption for Eric would have bin, to rewrite his role, to make at least some sense to the story. Same with nearly every other character right now. An adaption would be, to rewrite their roles and pack the plotholes up. But DS chooses instead the route of wish fullfillment. And that is, indeed, bad development.
 

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No it is a bad sign that shows the developer has no clue, plan or idea going into the project other than sapping money from people!
There is no reason on earth to rewrite the story in the middle of it!
It's like showing someone half the movie and then forcing them to start over to see what REALLY happened in the flick!
Rewriting the script is a actually very common practice in the movie industry. The difference is that they mostly don't shoot any scenes until they finalize the script due to budget restriction. This is something that unfortunately cannot be done for BB because of the monthly update format forcing BB into production without a complete script that is being made as they go.

Truth is the fact DS has listened and waiting for polls to decide what his game was going to be is precisely the reason he has all these dead ends, lack of decent story and too many scenes that have nothing to do with the genre he advertised!
Yet, you remain a loyal player of the game with all these dead ends, lack of decent story, and too many scenes that have nothing to do with the genre he advertised. And, DS is still racking in tons of money despite all that too. I'm sure his goal is to make money and not to make the best game he can. So it really is moot point at this point.
 

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I must confess the only thing I look at each update is the CG RIP, I gave up on this game around ver 6. The soul destroying grind allied with the closing off of certain story line by missing a certain dialouge at a certain time of a certain day really ruined it for me. Fair play to any of ye who stuck with it!
 

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I must confess the only thing I look at each update is the CG RIP, I gave up on this game around ver 6. The soul destroying grind allied with the closing off of certain story line by missing a certain dialouge at a certain time of a certain day really ruined it for me. Fair play to any of ye who stuck with it!
Grind can be bypassed if you use mod. Not sure which storyline is closed off by missing a certain dialogue at a certain time of a certain day. As far as I know, no such thing in the game. You could also bypass that by requesting a save file from someone else in the save file thread.
 
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I must confess the only thing I look at each update is the CG RIP, I gave up on this game around ver 6. The soul destroying grind allied with the closing off of certain story line by missing a certain dialouge at a certain time of a certain day really ruined it for me. Fair play to any of ye who stuck with it!
Not only stuck with it but I start a new game at least once a week.

As for this part "with the closing off of certain story line by missing a certain dialouge at a certain time of a certain day" I have never ran into it at all and it may have been a bug when you played.
I have well over 50 game play under my belt.
 
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I'm confused as to how I'm supposed to save the game.
Am I doing it wrong?
I'm saving it in-game, but once I exit out, it doesn't save the game and I can't load anything in and have to restart.
 

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I'm confused as to how I'm supposed to save the game.
Am I doing it wrong?
I'm saving it in-game, but once I exit out, it doesn't save the game and I can't load anything in and have to restart.
Look in the folder and make sure the is a folder called "Save" and if not you need to make one.
If there is one then you may have ran out of space because the game only allows 70 total save and you can either delete all the auto saves or change the config file to hold more files.
Check out this post #2 here and at the bottom is my config file for downloading or the instruction to do it yourself.
 

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There I have to disagree. Patreon Backers ain't customer. They didn't buy any kind of content. People who belive that, are totally misunderstanding the concept of patreon. They donate in a tip jar of an artists. And they should do that, why they like what the artists does.
Sure, there artists, like DS, who also didn't understand this concept at all. And that is a problem, a big one. To dismiss your plans ain't flexibility. It only means that you didn't trust your plans. An adaption for Eric would have bin, to rewrite his role, to make at least some sense to the story. Same with nearly every other character right now. An adaption would be, to rewrite their roles and pack the plotholes up. But DS chooses instead the route of wish fullfillment. And that is, indeed, bad development.
No, they don't buy content, never said they did. But money influences people, and people on patreon aren't on there with everything open to people who just like the site. If the developer wants to keep the money coming in, he has to make the largest group of people happy.

As for trusting your plans, no, this has nothing to do with that. This has to do with somebody wanting to earn money off of making a game and how they go about choosing how much they earn. DS chose a larger fanbase over a minority, and to keep the larger fanbase, he makes his game based on what they want, hence all the polls.

As for what you said at the end, I won't tell a developer what they should do, I only make recommendations. If DS wanted to do what you suggested, more power to em. As for wish fulfillment, that is how you run a business. You make a product that as many people as possible want. The patreon backers may not be buying a product, but their continued giving to DS is dependent on DS making them happy, and that requires compromises on his part.
 

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No it is a bad sign that shows the developer has no clue, plan or idea going into the project other than sapping money from people!
There is no reason on earth to rewrite the story in the middle of it!
It's like showing someone half the movie and then forcing them to start over to see what REALLY happened in the flick!

Truth is the fact DS has listened and waiting for polls to decide what his game was going to be is precisely the reason he has all these dead ends, lack of decent story and too many scenes that have nothing to do with the genre he advertised!
Plenty of reason, his patrons want it. If they don't, then I would agree there is no reason to do it. I am not a patron. I would pay $10 for the completed game, but I don't believe in patreon and unfinished products, which is why the only one I back now a days is Nintendo Force magazine. Hmm, I feel sorry for some kid who googles nintendo force and runs into this website now.....

Anyway, unless somebody is a patron, their opinion is basically moot. Mine is, it is just all chatting for me. I enjoy the game, and would love to see certain things done, but I have 0 power to make it happen. I sit back and just hypothesize and discuss.
 

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Look in the folder and make sure the is a folder called "Save" and if not you need to make one.
If there is one then you may have ran out of space because the game only allows 70 total save and you can either delete all the auto saves or change the config file to hold more files.
Check out this post #2 here and at the bottom is my config file for downloading or the instruction to do it yourself.
Just found the saves folder, thank you.
What should I do from there?
 

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Just found the saves folder, thank you.
What should I do from there?
Delete all the ones that have auto in front. then follow the instruction that are at that link.
 
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