Dasati

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Sedatives or not, she gave them to her own sister without her knowlegde in order to have her do porn, and also sex her. That is drugging her no matter how "mild" those pills are.
Nowhere and at no point did i ever condone it nor did i use the word mild. You're missing my point I wasn't commenting on the fact that Kira is drugging Anne. I was saying that in my opinion, some people are over estimating how profoundly the drugs are effecting Anne e.g. referring to them as if they were mind control/make Anne do anything pills.
 

DarkSilver

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Aug 25, 2017
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dammit. @DarkSilver finally you added a sex scene with alice that isnt doggy.i gave you lots and lots of shit here for this.for 1.0(complete) i guess you know you gotta finally have sex with ann and make it repeatable through gameplay or else the incest goal will not be truly reached imo.i also suggest a final kira only storyline as the epilogue to her character arc.she shouldnt only be a character that helps max all the time to progress the story.have lisa lose her virginity on a romantic way too and 1.0 will be a glorious 10/10.i know this is a lot of stuffto develop in a month but i find then essential.i think i you delayed the ipdate a week or two people would appreciate the effort for a truly finished game
Um, 1.0 is not a final version anymore.
 

DarkSilver

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If DarkSilver is looking for a way to slow progress with Ann and Lisa, I honestly think he should go back and rework Eric.

Find a way to incentivize keeping him around and holding the friendship together for a little while longer - maybe more voyeuristic opportunities for Eric / Lisa, Alice, Ann, Kira. Olivia? Kate!?! (I've been wanting to see Eric x Alice behind closed doors I admit) Or Max could blackmail him instead?

I think Eric's role would be a good place to stretch the story and create a couple more plot branches, or "opportunities" I guess you'd call them in-game.

I'm not that creative, but just a thought for @DarkSilver
I'm not a big fan of reworking stuff. I guess it's more like a tv series, when players get a fresh piece of content every month.

Redoing may help to solve some problems, ofc, but I guess it's better just to go forward.

(Only my current thoughts, may be subject to change)
 
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DarkSilver

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So instead of getting a romance with Lisa we've got a new girl and more wasted content for her in the future updates. That was the biggest disappointment for me out of all updates. Right now I'm not interested in Vicky at all. I really hope it's gonna change.
Also there're already two girls that have nothing to do with incest theme.
I can say that you are not alone who don't want to have content with a new girl :)
 

firevoodoo

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I rarely post things, I’m more of reading type but that’s it

At this point NTR-crowd became really annoying. BB apparently is the most successful game of its genre by all meaningful metrics. Guess what: it’s impossible to achieve by pushing really weird and unpopular ideas. Like NTR for example.

Now its really funny because Eric is NTR only for folks who are seriously into incest stuff, which DS clearly isn’t. Obviously, DS is talented “game”-developer, not porn VN-writer obsessed with incest. BB is a “game” and thus must have at least some mechanics like challenges and obstacles. That’s all what Eric is. Now the fact he is fucking your family members is no big deal because obviously early version of Max saw them as the object of sexual interest just because he was sitting home all day. He would surely like to have some fun with them but the moment Olivia showed up he was immediately attracted to her. The mere fact he humiliated his entire family with BigBrother-style show on Internet for money shows his true attitude towards them. No deep feelings just business maybe some fun.

And that was kind of direction game was headed from the very start: Eric is a threat to keep at bay, Olivia and maybe other girls for romance and “true-love” stuff and the rest of the family as some occasional “fooling around” stuff.

And btw let me tell you incest in form of romance (meaning kids at the end) is absolutely the turn off for vast majority of Russians. I clearly see it’s the repeating theme in the Western literature and accepted practice among elite since classical antiquity while in Russia it was always an absolute taboo. You will find no recorded examples of such behavior among Russian elite and no mentioning in our literature. For obvious reasons. Even some indigenous non-Slavic illiterate tribes in the Russian North like Chukchee, Koryaks and other realize it to the point you HAVE to impregnate their women in exchange for their hospitality. Because they live on huge areas in very small isolated communities they are desperate to avoid incest by all means possible.

Whatever.

In a way, DS reminds me of Nabokov: he went to the West, saw the demand, created the desired product (Lolita) and Boom! Win!

Ok where was I? Oh, yes, NTR, Eric.

Yeah Eric. I would love DS to implement “Double Family”-style alternative-playtrough where you could assume Eric as MC to absolutely faceroll Max to the ground: expose his web-show shop, send him not to military school but to some juvenile mental ward for the next couple of years or so. Obviously, I would want to have an option not to be moron robbing single mom of her house.

Btw this idea Eric would want to rob Ann of her house was hastily implemented when the decision was made to get rid of Eric to please DS-donors who take incest dead-serious and thus see Eric as NTR. This whole idea that successful mid-level exec in large corp. is in fact petty con-artist living under false identity is absolutely ridiculous.

So. TLDR: NTR-crowd is absolutely annoying while anti-NTR is fairly ridiculous because there was no true NTR whatsoever
 

Buffalo Fred

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What do you mean by eventual romance?)
Not really in terms of going on dates like with Lisa - more that the whole thing moves from being about money/favours to something they both just feel like doing because they plain old care for each other? (Maybe this is already happening, I haven't played the latest update). Hope that makes sense!
 

Fadge

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Aug 10, 2017
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Hello all
(I apologize in advance for my poor "english" which is not my maternal language. I'm french, I hope you'll undestand what I'm saying)

As @DarkSilver is reading the posts here,,
I really want to thank you for your game that I really like a lot, but I have to tell you that for a "finished" game there are several improvements needed in the user interface, for the gameplay and the player experience, inspired with what is done in some popular visual novels :

1/ a specific menu, that you can call "achievments" with 2 goals: for each "route/girls" show how many scenes has to be discovered, and to "replay" the one already discovered. When "replayed", return to this menu at the end of the scene. It is done with "blank" images if not discovered, or thumbnails if discovered. Because some scenes are not repeatable ingame. in the top of this menu, show a general percentage of how many content been discovered (played ingame). So the player can see if he had missed a lot of content. It is a mean to show the beginner, that there is a lot to discover. You can "mix" this menu with the "opportunities" menu.
2/ have a way to ingame "skip already read" scenes to gain some time in repetitive actions, especially when there is no need of "luck" in the choices. The gameplay is suffering a lot of these repetitions.
3/ Use a graphic system (stars & hearts) to display mood and relationship of other persons always visible ingame, and keep the menu for the player (max) "fine tuning aspects" (max authority on each girl, max capabilities, inventory, eric authority ...)
4/ have an icon in the tree of online shop where an item is available to buy, to avoid to expand each leaf of the tree to search for new items. In the same "spirit" have icons the list of the titles of opportunities displayed when an opportunity is achieved, and an different icon for an new opportunity, or "not achieved" .
On the other hand, I like a lot the "opportunities" menu which evolves each time an opportunity moves on.
5/ (optional) separate in the software the "text content" in a single external file to enable translation in other languages. (it will bring to your game new "customers")
I hope you'll think about these improvements for your game. I love the game general idea, the graphics, the situations, and some humoristics aspects in it, and these improvements can lead to an extraordinary game.

For the content itself, if I can give you my thoughts, I think it will be interesting to have some kind of content "mom teach daughter or son how to ...". It's a popular theme in the porn videos websites.
For the "Pills gate" :) , I would like that Kira will teach Max, in the goal to finally fullfill ann needs (and other girls) from her porn experience on how to last long and please women (squirt, shaking orgasms, cum together...) in practice lessons like what was done with lisa sex-ed. Kira said that Ann can do everything if she is properly excited and stimulated, so ...
For the "ouside the house" content, have a new location, villa entrance (like the other locations) where you can choose to go by foot, bicycle, taxi, bus (oppotunities to meet girls) to your destinations (date, cofee shop, porn studio, ...)

Thank you for your awesome game, i hope you'll consider my advices
 
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Vodekur

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I can say that you are not alone who don't want to have content with a new girl :)
Have you ever considered Max to be able to entangle Kate's mom in the plot. Say Kate spends so much time at your house and her mother wants her back, so Max dominates her by keeping access to the house from Kate's mom, while slowly gaining the ability to influence her?
I believe other patrons have asked this but, is it possible to connect the Olivia and Lisa paths? Say there is a big scandal one day when Max goes on a date with Lisa and Olivia starts crying meanwhile Max appears as a night in shining armour and knocks Alex down and invites Olivia home? e.g.
 

Xzuku

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I'm not a big fan of reworking stuff. I guess it's more like a tv series, when players get a fresh piece of content every month.

Redoing may help to solve some problems, ofc, but I guess it's better just to go forward.

(Only my current thoughts, may be subject to change)
Ah, I understand. Thanks for clearing that up! I agree that getting fresh content is priority. Reworking may just cause more problems for you anyway. You and your team, keep up the great work!
 
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