SDaddy666

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as of scene replayability, it could easily be implemented by dreaming or watching a video (webcams). In fact, i think it's only a little code, choices and a dozen text lines. Could be implemented in the next version i guess...
 

Miðgarðsormr

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It's Daz3D + dedicated guy for post-processing. Helps a lot.
Man thank you for your response. I already thought you got lazy on writing by certain elements but after i tried to redo your screen quality alone i was kinda shocked how much you need to do so. Sry for that :)

For the not wanted new girl i'm also one of those dudes who didnt want her.
But i think you still can turn that one around if the new "Girl" gets a crucial role in the whole story.

A "Real" Girlfriend "for Max who doesnt know about his "family activities" and make alice,anna and lisa kinda "jealous"
You know like "oh ladies we need to step up our game" and the player decides on what to do next.
At first i didnt like the idea of a new girl but now i can see the chances you can create for the story.

It would be great to see how a girl from outside shakes up the whole story and have influence on max. For the best or the worst ^^
 

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I rarely post things, I’m more of reading type but that’s it

At this point NTR-crowd became really annoying. BB apparently is the most successful game of its genre by all meaningful metrics. Guess what: it’s impossible to achieve by pushing really weird and unpopular ideas. Like NTR for example.

Now its really funny because Eric is NTR only for folks who are seriously into incest stuff, which DS clearly isn’t. Obviously, DS is talented “game”-developer, not porn VN-writer obsessed with incest. BB is a “game” and thus must have at least some mechanics like challenges and obstacles. That’s all what Eric is. Now the fact he is fucking your family members is no big deal because obviously early version of Max saw them as the object of sexual interest just because he was sitting home all day. He would surely like to have some fun with them but the moment Olivia showed up he was immediately attracted to her. The mere fact he humiliated his entire family with BigBrother-style show on Internet for money shows his true attitude towards them. No deep feelings just business maybe some fun.

And that was kind of direction game was headed from the very start: Eric is a threat to keep at bay, Olivia and maybe other girls for romance and “true-love” stuff and the rest of the family as some occasional “fooling around” stuff.

And btw let me tell you incest in form of romance (meaning kids at the end) is absolutely the turn off for vast majority of Russians. I clearly see it’s the repeating theme in the Western literature and accepted practice among elite since classical antiquity while in Russia it was always an absolute taboo. You will find no recorded examples of such behavior among Russian elite and no mentioning in our literature. For obvious reasons. Even some indigenous non-Slavic illiterate tribes in the Russian North like Chukchee, Koryaks and other realize it to the point you HAVE to impregnate their women in exchange for their hospitality. Because they live on huge areas in very small isolated communities they are desperate to avoid incest by all means possible.

Whatever.

In a way, DS reminds me of Nabokov: he went to the West, saw the demand, created the desired product (Lolita) and Boom! Win!

Ok where was I? Oh, yes, NTR, Eric.

Yeah Eric. I would love DS to implement “Double Family”-style alternative-playtrough where you could assume Eric as MC to absolutely faceroll Max to the ground: expose his web-show shop, send him not to military school but to some juvenile mental ward for the next couple of years or so. Obviously, I would want to have an option not to be moron robbing single mom of her house.

Btw this idea Eric would want to rob Ann of her house was hastily implemented when the decision was made to get rid of Eric to please DS-donors who take incest dead-serious and thus see Eric as NTR. This whole idea that successful mid-level exec in large corp. is in fact petty con-artist living under false identity is absolutely ridiculous.

So. TLDR: NTR-crowd is absolutely annoying while anti-NTR is fairly ridiculous because there was no true NTR whatsoever
Well the game is about the sex and the story not about some villian you have to beat.
You misunderstand Sex Games/Ero Games/Hentai/Adult/Pornographic Material inside games/ with normal games for the mainstream.

Yes there you need a villian to beat a game mechanic to use and a story and certain elements to accomplish all that. But in Games with the main focus on sexual content you cant do that for to long or you lose your audience. Some ppl only wanna fap. Other ppl want to see the story unfold.
Others wanna do both.
The amount of ppl who want to beat a villian and win after grinding for weeks is so few if DS would please them he would not make a penny.

Im kinda on the NTR side on this one. On other games i agree with you but in a Sex Game like BB you cant do that for to long without a chance to get rid of the villian or antagonist or you lose most of your audience/customer.
 

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Thx for the game. I wish I could afford to pay more.
I really like the game but it could use a little balancing. It takes alittle to long to progress. But it should not be to fast also :). For one of the next updates you should think about some minor scenes for in between so not every day is the same. I suggest also to do a little bug fixing. There are some scenes that make no sence. During night time when I want to grope and hand cuff Lisa the first step is to take of here panties. But she isn't wearing any. On Saturday mornings she complains about me seeing her tits but she blows me naked all the time and I can fuck her ass every evening.Pay attention to little stuff like this and the quality of the game will improve a lot.

@All
What do you think about my suggestions?
 

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@ DarkSilver
Thx for the game. I wish I could afford to pay more.
I really like the game but it could use a little balancing. It takes alittle to long to progress. But it should not be to fast also :). For one of the next updates you should think about some minor scenes for in between so not every day is the same. I suggest also to do a little bug fixing. There are some scenes that make no sence. During night time when I want to grope and hand cuff Lisa the first step is to take of here panties. But she isn't wearing any. On Saturday mornings she complains about me seeing her tits but she blows me naked all the time and I can fuck her ass every evening.Pay attention to little stuff like this and the quality of the game will improve a lot.


What do you think about my suggestions?
"take of here panties" its not take off her panties it is take off your shorts.

"On Saturday mornings she complains about me seeing her tits " Its not about her tits she is complaining about, it's your interrupting her getting ready for (now wait for it) SHOPPING, never get in between a girl and her shopping.

Shopping shopping.jpg

Shorts not panties.jpg
 
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"take of here panties" its not take off her panties it is take off your shorts.

"On Saturday mornings she complains about me seeing her tits " Its not about her tits she is complaining about it your interrupting her getting ready for (now wait for it) SHOPPING, never get in between a girl and her shopping.
Well you can get between her and credit card ;):cool:
 
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Nowhere and at no point did i ever condone it nor did i use the word mild. You're missing my point I wasn't commenting on the fact that Kira is drugging Anne. I was saying that in my opinion, some people are over estimating how profoundly the drugs are effecting Anne e.g. referring to them as if they were mind control/make Anne do anything pills.
No, ofc. It was not my intention that you did either. I just stated the fact that what she did was wrong. And that even if those pills was of the lower tier stuff it still clearly altered her mind somehow. But how little or how much we don't know. I do believe she truly likes Max even from the start. And now have started to lust after. If that is also the pills helping I don't know since Kira don't say when she started to feed Ann I think. Either way, all is good :D
 
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Well the game is about the sex and the story not about some villian you have to beat.
You misunderstand Sex Games/Ero Games/Hentai/Adult/Pornographic Material inside games/ with normal games for the mainstream.

Yes there you need a villian to beat a game mechanic to use and a story and certain elements to accomplish all that. But in Games with the main focus on sexual content you cant do that for to long or you lose your audience. Some ppl only wanna fap. Other ppl want to see the story unfold.
Others wanna do both.
The amount of ppl who want to beat a villian and win after grinding for weeks is so few if DS would please them he would not make a penny.

Im kinda on the NTR side on this one. On other games i agree with you but in a Sex Game like BB you cant do that for to long without a chance to get rid of the villian or antagonist or you lose most of your audience/customer.
With all due respect but obvious success of BB shows DS knows what he does. IMO his idea with "villian" and somewhat complicated game mechanics, among other things, contributed to it.
 

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With all due respect but obvious success of BB shows DS knows what he does. IMO his idea with "villian" and somewhat complicated game mechanics, among other things, contributed to it.
The removal of said villian and the rest of the established game mechanic gave him his success. I write storys for a living and trust me.
If Eric would have stayed this game would have failed as the majority of ppl hate this dude from the moment he was introduced into the game.

It was a good villian however i admit that. And if the genre was different it could also benefit for the story. But in this particular story he was missplaced and with no means to get rid of him in the early stages it enraged ppl quite much.

Lets just say this. Its no good idea to build in a cock block in a already grind like sex game. Cause thats exactly what ppl are fleeing from if playing such games or reading romantic or sexual novels in the first place.
 
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As usual, with the first image comes the first preview post.
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Huge thanks to the anon who provided this and nobody else yet :p! You guys rock :D
Hopefully these two images and related theme bring in new repeatable events and are not just one off events (although those are good too). The game needs something new to incentivize people to keep playing the game between releases and not just be a one play-through and done
 

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The removal of said villian and the rest of the established game mechanic gave him his success. I write storys for a living and trust me.
If Eric would have stayed this game would have failed as the majority of ppl hate this dude from the moment he was introduced into the game.

It was a good villian however i admit that. And if the genre was different it could also benefit for the story. But in this particular story he was missplaced and with no means to get rid of him in the early stages it enraged ppl quite much.

Lets just say this. Its no good idea to build in a cock block in a already grind like sex game. Cause thats exactly what ppl are fleeing from if playing such games or reading romantic or sexual novels in the first place.
Look mister, I hate to sound like dickhead I am but will you show us examples of you writings for living? My point is you cannot argue with success. Eric and game mechanics were obvious part of said success. I'm not even some huge fun of BB btw, or this whole "genre" in general, but I think I was somewhat hooked by trying to beat him and was hugely satisfied when I did. Obviously beautiful graphics and user-friendly interface helped a lot, but IMO you need to do something extra to beat competition in crowded marketplace. Good story with nice pics are simply not enough at this point.
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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Look mister, I hate to sound like dickhead I am but will you show us examples of you writings for living? My point is you cannot argue with success. Eric and game mechanics were obvious part of said success. I'm not even some huge fun of BB btw, or this whole "genre" in general, but I think I was somewhat hooked by trying to beat him and was hugely satisfied when I did. Obviously beautiful graphics and user-friendly interface helped a lot, but IMO you need to do something extra to beat competition in crowded marketplace. Good story with nice pics are simply not enough at this point.
Lets see. 2 Red Hering and 1 Ad hominem. Why exactly are you in defence mode? We didnt talk about game mechanics we talked about Eric as a villian which in this particular genre is missplaced.

The Audience was enraged and DS reacted by giving the Audience the chance to get rid of him. So this sucess as you describe it is not made by the "Villian Eric" but by adjusting to the main group of audience who wanted him out the game.

As i said there is nothing wrong about you being "hooked" and enjoy beating Eric. But the fact that the majority wanted to get rid of him "no matter how" is simply showing you that you are in the minority with that.

The majority wanted him gone. DS adapted and did fulfill this request and the sucess came with it. Part of that is to listen to the majority while ignoring the minority.
I dont mean you disrespect or try to change your opinion in this but the sucess of this game was made by DS listening to his audience and what they like and dislike and providing a solution instead of going back and simply delete Eric out of the game.
But as you can see in this forum most ppl dont want him ingame whatsoever as the game itself is already a kind of a grind in itself.
 
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1. Where did I say that patreon is some investment site?
2. If patreon is a subscription game service, how much money have you spent on the subscription?
Well you do seem to think he can change the game to be totally different from the previous release on a whim.
Anyone who does that is a BAD DEVELOPER....POOR GAME MASTER....INCOMPETENT PRODUCER!
 
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