Baka_Energy_studios

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I'm not against your freedom of speech, your evaluation to the game. What I want to say, to vent your disagreement in F95 site are wrong placed. If you have critics, do it directly to that person in charge, which is the developer.

But since you need to became a patron and you won't do it, you love free charge and talk as you want ... then you can criticize his work in here, with cool head and say what's bad things and how to resolve it.

If you read many of negative comment, they just whining how lack of content and why in hell MC still not able bang her mother yet and say the developer is shit because of this & that. So if developer didn't made the game as your desire ... he's bad, milking liar, swindler, shit, and all bad words comes to Dark Silver.

The difference between whining and critic
Whining : "This game is shit."
Salty Player : "This game is shit, because not following what I want."
Critic : "This game is shit, because ...(logical reasoning)"
1. You do know that the dev is on this forum as well, right?
2. A forum is a good place to talk about, well, everything.
3. 2nd paragraph. why should i become a patreon, and then come back here, if, following your logic, this isn´t the right place for criticism???
4. I agree, some don´t criticise logically, ome are whining or complaining about things they want to see in the game, and i don´t defend them. Yes, there are things i would like to see in the game, i often joke about it, but i want to see things the devs are hinting at or promising it in changelog updates and other posts.
5. There is good stuff in BB, but at this moment it´s overshadowed by the bad decisions the dev is making.
6. The writing doesn´t need to reinvent the wheel, but at the lowest level, it needs to be at least a little coherent and consequent. The characters and the barely existing plot often contradict themselfs. And, as much as i love Ann, she´s just talking nonsense in this update. Want an example?
 
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berny

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What I mean is at this point it is so unbelievable that I can’t help myself I just laugh all the time. ATM I’m at the point where Lisa is fine to show anal cowgirl with Max to Alice. Facepalm. Hahahaha. I’m just.. .. I mean.. rofl. This is the funniest update DS made so far.

...but maybe it's just me XD
Actually, it's not just you, I started to see this irony like 3 or 4 updates ago, too, for the exact same reasons you described (the indifference of Ann and Lisa for example is actually pretty funny), I think I even wrote a comment here.
Found it, from Aug. 3
I must admit, the more the game advances, the more I can find a certain comedy in it.
The game never was in any way realistic, but some events are so ridiculous, that I can actually enjoy it as some kind of parody. First this whole "carpal tunnel" ridiculousness, then you're making porn with your mother etc. I think it's actually kind of funny how he tries to write a serious plot (or maybe I'm underestimating him, and he actually is aiming for this "over the topness").
I hope he increases the content per update in the future, the money he is making should become noticable by now, but other than that, I actually still like the game (it's remarkable how few posts actually say that considering how popular this game is on this site and in general). It would have been nice to see where he was originally going with Eric though, seems like he is assuming that everbody killed him by now.
And it would be great if he could decrease the grinding. That you can only do the Kate plot after doing the porn with Mom is a perfect example for how to not do it, especially since the porn plot only happens if you kick out Eric.
The thing is, the game just got worse since then. The updates didn't improve, neither in quality nor quantity, some stories like the waitress are just unnecessary and not funny at all, and the story is pretty much just a total mess by now with no clear goal. But yes, sometimes the game is still pretty funny.
 
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Baka_Energy_studios

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Actually, it's not just you, I started to see this irony like 3 or 4 updates ago, too, for the exact same reason you described (the indifference of Ann and Alice for example is actually pretty funny), I think I even wrote a comment here. But honestly, I actually think DS is serious, or maybe I'm just underestimating him. It may actually be his way of making the game more bearable for him, since he is no fan of incest, or at least loving incest.
Nevertheless, I still believe the waitress and doc stories are totally unnecessary and he should have used the time to concentrate on existing characters.
i have come to the conclusion that DS just found some "incest caption gifs" on the net and decided to squeeze a game out of them
 

MrXoWyl4

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Hi!
I need help for the installation of the game. When i extract the .zip and then i click on the .exe it crashes and i do not why.
What should i do after extracting the .zip?
 
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micmitja

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Hi!
I need help for the installation of the game. When i extract the .zip and then i click on the .exe it crashes and i do not why.
What should i do after extracting the .zip?
Exactly that, you run "BigBrother.exe" and thats it. Which platform are you using?
 
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i have come to the conclusion that DS just found some "incest caption gifs" on the net and decided to squeeze a game out of them
If he was going to do that, I wish he would have picked some of mine at least. The complaint I got was that I was putting too much story and too many words into my captions. But yeah, in general the genre is pretty bad.
 

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I'm using windows 7
Then there, shouldn't be problem with that am using same, try to update your drivers if you already have or when you will and its still not working, try to run as admin (tho that shouldn't matter). For the end could be some issue with source you have download, the one from mega works fine for me.
 
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If he was going to do that, I wish he would have picked some of mine at least. The complaint I got was that I was putting too much story and too many words into my captions. But yeah, in general the genre is pretty bad.
yup, most captions are bland like "Cum in mommy","When his fathers away, my son and i fuck" on some pretty MSM porn gifs. The best captions explain the juicy situation and the conclusion in roughly 5-7 sentences. And it´s about why they do this sinful act, not the actual description of the act itself.
 

MrXoWyl4

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Then there, shouldn't be problem with that am using same, try to update your drivers if you already have or when you will and its still not working, try to run as admin (tho that shouldn't matter). For the end could be some issue with source you have download, the one from mega works fine for me.
When i click the .exe and the game craches, appears a report folder next to the game executable with the error log
 

micmitja

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When i click the .exe and the game craches, appears a report folder next to the game executable with the error log
Well you can try to upload report here maybe someone knows something about that, but my suggestion is since that shouldn't be happening just to grab fresh version from here (mega link), update your rar or 7z what ever you are using (i guess that could also corrupt the data) and try again. Also update drivers just to be safe.
 
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1. You do know that the dev is on this forum as well, right?
2. A forum is a good place to talk about, well, everything.
3. 2nd paragraph. why should i become a patreon, and then come back here, if, following your logic, this isn´t the right place for criticism???
4. I agree, some don´t criticise logically, ome are whining or complaining about things they want to see in the game, and i don´t defend them. Yes, there are things i would like to see in the game, i often joke about it, but i want to see things the devs are hinting at or promising it in changelog updates and other posts.
5. There is good stuff in BB, but at this moment it´s overshadowed by the bad decisions the dev is making.
6. The writing doesn´t need to reinvent the wheel, but at the lowest level, it needs to be at least a little coherent and consequent. The characters and the barely existing plot often contradict themselfs. And, as much as i love Ann, she´s just talking nonsense in this update. Want an example?
1. Yes, DS in here, but their obligation is to the backers. To free players in here, is more like a fan service. But of course he should listen to us, as bad publicity is not good.

3. To be able posting in his patreon, one must became a patron. So for free player, the choice is limited to this thread only.

6.a. I called it consistency. Developer has to choose whether to fix the imperfection or progression. If choose the first, DS had high risk to incur the rage of people who want keep continuation of the storyline, backer or non backer. If he choose progression, it's complicated. Why?

6.b.1. Taken from my experience as professional animator, when you accept an assignment from client, you can't just making 1 module, but make several modules base on the order. After finishing all modules, we select 3 best modules to be presented to the client. Then the client choose from 3, which one that pass their examination. If rejected, then we presenting the modules that we feel reject. If surprisingly accepted, we finish the job. If not, back to drawing board and do brainstorm, back to square one.
6.b.2. DS have 1 or 2 months to complete his target build. But he can't make just 1 modules/scenario+dialog and finish the progression. He must have make several modules(Scenario+Picture) as options, to get the best quality of the games. I don't think anyone in this world able to create just 1 modules and get positive result. With a lot of quest/opportunity task in Big Brother, DS have to make several modules to each path. Then he decide which one to applied to each scenario/quest. This could already eat a 2~4 weeks of timeline. After that, he have to translate the English language, finish with upload the game in hope for positive review and clear from bugs.
6.b.3. Why a good developer has to make a lot of modules ? To control their QA pass check. That's what make it difference between popular games and fringe games. Also QA progress can eat timeline too, depend on how many tester they got.

You can find this inside the game help icon
DS_Statement.jpg
He didn't continue his service on gamedev company, mean he seriously working with this game. And if he really once work on big gamedev company, he have professional standard and system of work, which cannot be rushed to pursue the perfection.

I don't want to be DS's white knight, but having experience the tough/brutal world of animation and now making erotica novel and hope someday can turn it to game, also in learning how to scripting/coding of game engine ... 1 month is already quite surprising to deliver new build/version, which also not below the standard quality.
 
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NotMe00

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Hi guys i'm having a problem. I downloaded the game, it's started but when i play some scenes (like the one with Mom in bathroom, night) or another one with Alice, everythig seems ok but during the dialogue always shows up a line where i can't click nothing so i remain stucked with the same line and the same image and i'm unable to go on.
Now i'm trying to download the game again. I've tryed already with no mod but it's the same.
What can i do?
 

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Hi guys i'm having a problem. I downloaded the game, it's started but when i play some scenes (like the one with Mom in bathroom, night) or another one with Alice, everythig seems ok but during the dialogue always shows up a line where i can't click nothing so i remain stucked with the same line and the same image and i'm unable to go on.
Now i'm trying to download the game again. I've tryed already with no mod but it's the same.
What can i do?
How about take a screen shot of it and upload it here, make sure to change it to jpeg and not png. Use the thumb option when you add it please.
 

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10years in the industry of game making.. you'd think you could make an actual game with mechanics than glorified visual novel, which is fine, but you could do better with 10 years of experience.
 

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Ok my 2 Cents on this update....
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If he would put in just a quarter of the effort he puts into the movies into the repeatable scenes this game would be 1000 times better in story, eroticism and fell less grindy for those who are playing through to find the few new things he added only to get a 3 or 4 picture payoff that feels like a ripoff compared to the movies especially considering all the hoops and grind you need to jump through to get them compared to the movies.
 
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