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Kate's a domme, Lisa's a sub, Alice is a tsundere sub who wants to try being a domme, Max needs to learn a thing or two from Kate to keep his women in line - and turn Kate into one of his girl in the process. Stop being an apologetic sneaky boy who somehow nags himself to sex, and become an assertive man.

And more sexual training with Kira as a teacher and participant, as I've been saying for months. Example from Fan Art:
 
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Get it with Alice but not for Lisa, even more bullshit. @DarkSilver
Dude calm down just badgering him isn't gonna make him want to fulfil your wish in any way shape or form. Complaining isn't gonna help either - sure one can voice their opinion and disappointment with something but you're pretty much just ragging on him for no reason. Although I don't agree with this random storyline / opportunity I'm not gonna shit on the guy for taking the game direction which he wants to take. You don't have to like the direction he's taking but you're legitimately just shitting out for no reason.
 
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Dude calm down just badgering him isn't gonna make him want to fulfil your wish in any way shape or form. Complaining isn't gonna help either - sure one can voice their opinion and disappointment with something but you're pretty much just ragging on him for no reason. Although I don't agree with this random storyline / opportunity I'm not gonna shit on the guy for taking the game direction which he wants to take. You don't have to like the direction he's taking but you're legitimately just shitting out for no reason.
That was my last post on the subject anyway, will just wait and see what happens.
 

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Dude calm down just badgering him isn't gonna make him want to fulfil your wish in any way shape or form. Complaining isn't gonna help either - sure one can voice their opinion and disappointment with something but you're pretty much just ragging on him for no reason. Although I don't agree with this random storyline / opportunity I'm not gonna shit on the guy for taking the game direction which he wants to take. You don't have to like the direction he's taking but you're legitimately just shitting out for no reason.
No, his criticism is pretty much on target. I like Alice, but we don't really need more scenes of her at this point, although that seems to be likely what we're going to get. By the time we actually to have sex with Ann or Lisa, I'll be sick of Alice just from having seen her and had sex with her so much. DS has also made it clear that he's not going to do anything useful with any criticism he receives, be it constructive or otherwise. a1fox3 was the biggest supporter of this game for the longest time. The fact that he's pretty much given up is a sign of how bad things have gotten. A lot of people are frustrated at the game now. Maybe that frustration will finally get through to DS where words alone didn't.
 
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Dude calm down just badgering him isn't gonna make him want to fulfil your wish in any way shape or form.
It's not so much about fulfilling wishes and stuff but more about what was promised beforehand and what was delivered. He said there would be some romance with Lisa and Max and then we get Vicky and the "I wanna watch you fuck other women" dead-end arc. Sure, wouldn't be too bad to introduce her along the lines, but it completely blocked everything and as of now it doesn't seem like it'll get a lot of progress at the moment either.
We all know that it's not what you say, but how you say it, but we also know that although he seems pretty upset that he's mostly right about it.
As for the romance part it's not the end of the world if you can't imagine that it could be present in an incest game (they didn't stop being regular human beings/men/women with emotions, did they?), but if you promise something like this you should get someone who can. I bet there are probably lots of people who'd even do it for free or a little honorable mention or something like this.
 
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a1fox3 was the biggest supporter of this game for the longest time. The fact that he's pretty much given up is a sign of how bad things have gotten. A lot of people are frustrated at the game now
oh wow, maybe he should take it to the $40 discussions on his patreon? oh wait...

the game was intended to be a corruption themed game from the beginning, but some people like a1fox3 spammed DS with their "ideas" and "feelings" for the game and turned it in this shithole what it is right now. DS reacting to fans and taking turn after turn is what us brought this abomination of story.
 

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This game's plot is lost in the abyss anyway. I'm only here for the CGs now. I downloaded V10 on release day and didn't even extract it (eventually deleted it). If I get to look at Alice, which looks like it'll be a lot, I'll be happy. The more Alice the better. That sultry smile is everything. Fuck the "plot" at this point.
 

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oh wow, maybe he should take it to the $40 discussions on his patreon? oh wait...

the game was intended to be a corruption themed game from the beginning, but some people like a1fox3 spammed DS with their "ideas" and "feelings" for the game and turned it in this shithole what it is right now. DS reacting to fans and taking turn after turn is what us brought this abomination of story.
At the end of the day, it was DS's decision to change the tone of the story. a1fox3 voiced his concerns. I voiced mine. Everyone else voiced there's. DS chose to listen. He didn't have to, but he did. You wanna blame someone? Blame Dark Silver for being so fickle about his own creation. There are other creators who have made it very clear that they have a vision that they intend to follow through with. Dark Silver is not one of them.
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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Is it me or is DS losing patrons as we speak? I could swear he was near the 3k patrons mark and now its a bit above 2,8k?
 
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Is it me or is DS losing patrons as we speak? I could swear he was near the 3k patrons mark and now its below 2,8k?
I don't know about the Patreon numbers, but you may be correct. After the failed/ignored Romance, aboandonment of Coffee Girl (Vicky?), the move to 'Theme' updates, and other changes people may be pulling support.

The sad thing is that the game had and still has promise. The Alice/Lisa/Max focus could be good for advancing the story (though I worry how it will turn out). I have said before that focus on one story line/path could be beneficial (as it would allow updating past scenes to fit the new game situation and produce new content), a given update shouldn't be ONLY one thing.
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Small side additions would give more options for the total player base, while allowing a larger focused expansion on a single path. The Olivia path is in desperate need of focus, but shouldn't block ALL growth to the rest of the game.

Just some thoughts. :)
 
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Is it me or is DS losing patrons as we speak? I could swear he was near the 3k patrons mark and now its a bit above 2,8k?
no. according to Graphtreon last month the peak was 2825, now there are 2856 patrons.
 

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Is it me or is DS losing patrons as we speak? I could swear he was near the 3k patrons mark and now its a bit above 2,8k?
He was a little over 3k just after v8.3 came out and lost some after players realize that romance was crushed in v9.6 and now in v.10 lost another 100.
no. according to Graphtreon last month the peak was 2825, now there are 2856 patrons.
I saw it at 3021 just before I dropped it.
 
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oh wow, maybe he should take it to the $40 discussions on his patreon? oh wait...

the game was intended to be a corruption themed game from the beginning, but some people like a1fox3 spammed DS with their "ideas" and "feelings" for the game and turned it in this shithole what it is right now. DS reacting to fans and taking turn after turn is what us brought this abomination of story.
This statement is such a crock of bullshit that I can't believe you Erica's still try to perpetuate here in the discussion...
There isn't a SINGLE TAG for CORRUPTION or BLACKMAIL in the Game Description on Patreon!
Never has been one either...
The fact you WANTED it to be such doesn't make these statements that it was always intended to be one true!
You guys are just lying through your teeth every time you perpetrate this LIE about what this game was intended to be then changed due to User pressure...
Cause no one is buying your bull!
 

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He was a little over 3k just after v8.3 came out and lost some after players realize that romance was crushed in v9.6 and now in v.10 lost another 100.

I saw it at 3021 just before I dropped it.
So its not me he actually loses his support over his dumb decisions in the last 2 updates. Good to know as i stopped supporting a bit before that cause i thought he is milking his supporters and trying to stretch the money grab and blue balling everyone. Glad i pulled out (no pun intended) when i did :)
 
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It's not so much about fulfilling wishes and stuff but more about what was promised beforehand and what was delivered. He said there would be some romance with Lisa and Max and then we get Vicky and the "I wanna watch you fuck other women" dead-end arc. Sure, wouldn't be too bad to introduce her along the lines, but it completely blocked everything and as of now it doesn't seem like it'll get a lot of progress at the moment either.
We all know that it's not what you say, but how you say it, but we also know that although he seems pretty upset that he's mostly right about it.
As for the romance part it's not the end of the world if you can't imagine that it could be present in an incest game (they didn't stop being regular human beings/men/women with emotions, did they?), but if you promise something like this you should get someone who can. I bet there are probably lots of people who'd even do it for free or a little honorable mention or something like this.
Tbh although you make some good points I think you've missed one of the key marks of the game. Max, as a character wants to have sex with his whole family. As a player the majority of people want him to have sex with his whole family - been so since the game first got real traction. I don't understand how romance EVER works in a harem relation especially when incest between previously proclaimed 'sex addicted' characters is involved. Let's be honest here, Kira and Alice do not believe in 1-1 relationships, been evident since the start. Anne - although committed to a 1-1 relationship legitimately had sex with Eric an unholy amount of times a day for a couple that was about to marry with kids in the house - I mean you have no idea what she does when she left to Eric's place. Lisa is a teenage girl who had anal sex with her brother, is the majority of her attitude really THAT unbelievable?

Although romance has played an underlying feature in near every relationship bar Kira's it was most definitely not prevalent. Even in Alice's relationship with Kate the major reason for Alice's loyalty was because Kate saved Alice's life. The whole 'I'm into watching you have sex with other people' is totally believable if you take into account everything we've seen to date including her whole submissive fetish.

Does this game have dead arcs? Sure. Do the updates fall short of what's promised each month? Sure. Is Lisa acting so completely out of character? Not if you take into account what I've listed above.

Although the complaint that Alice is overused is semi-valid it isn't really true. In terms of content you have: Blog sex, Anal Movie, Spider, Punishment and Kate.
Lisa: Anal kitchen, Training, and Alice's bed.
Although she's behind two she's not exactly underused like Anne who hasn't even had a sex scene to date. In terms of repeatable blowjobs etc. I'm pretty sure they're even - infact Lisa may be ahead considering twice in the shower and once doing her homework + at night with the handcuffs and a potential event again where she handcuffs you AND the whole punishment system adding another one to the mix.

Although it seemed totally wack the direction he took when I really thought about it after reading all these comments wasn't totally unexpected. Haven't slept in a day so I hope it was legible.
 

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i honestly think he will lose more patrons over the next update and then finally starts to realize that he cant continue with this the way he does.
I dont say he needs to finish the game asap but if he doesnt make lisa lose her virginity and having finally sex with Ann soon people will see the game for what it is. Milking them and blue balling them.
 
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