markmaso

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@DarkSilver If you are not considering love/romance in a dom/sub relationship, realize that IT IS RAPE !
Dominance / submission is all related to trust and love. If not, it is a crime.
Please, if you don't understand it, give up with the writing of the script of your game to someoneelse and focus on the renders (which are very good)
Considering anal is incompatible with love/romance WTF !
And visit the fan art thread, and what you will see : kisses, carress ...
Now I am really angry at you
You are visiting this thread to try to understand why you are losing patrons, that's all. The only post you have considered is the one telling you that most of men prefer dominance against submission. pfff...
I understand you want to make money and finance your other game, but what you are doing is against your own interest.
Even in this pile of nonsense that became the story of BB you can make the good choices and return the situation. You are now in a state (and it is your fault) that the sex with ann and lisa will automatically set an end to the game, as it can be the beginning. Give the script to someone who understand love,romance,domination,jealousy.
(For info I was one of your patrons, a long time ago)
PREACH!
so you think we live in a world full of rapists.
if I meet a woman who is willing to have sex with me, only sex, nothing cuddles and sweet words ... I am a rapist.
love / romance has almost completely disappeared, perhaps it existed at the time of my grandparents.
today you go to a bar, a disco, a concert, you meet a person for the first time and 2 hours later you're fucking her.
Then big brother is a story focused on incest, on sex not on love, romance. These last elements that I do not see in any porn game.
If you want romantic stories, love stories .... I recommend the Argentine soap operas.
out point is all the sex in this game is always WAY too forced apart from some small exceptions when the girls start to like it.
 

Ignazzio

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It's not like anyone wants a fucking wedding. But the character development after the spankstuff that happened should be more intimate.(for the path with lisa at least)
Its an easy excuse to say that things can't work bc they can't work. I think your biggest problem is, that you're insecure asf. (another problem is, that max is turning into a uncaring pos and lisa turns out to be a retard)
At least try to write a story that is coherently to it previous updates.
If you don't like incest it's really, really hard to find anything romantic in such relations. I understand that well cuz I wouldn't be able to write a romance path in incest game as it feels just extremally dumb for me. DS mentioned it's about setting and I understand that fully. He shouldn't pick it as a genre in that case but it works marketing-wise so it's hard to judge him
 
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Zamastro

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The only part where romance could be needed to bring this story forward is mom and max. Even she is doing that things she is doing so far, she will need a push to spread her legs for max. So she needs to admit to herself that she is adoring his cock and is willing to let him fuck her. But she cant do it just for fun or to do a movie. Max will have to conquer her heart soon and prove her he is worth to fuck her. This mom&max relation will be the most difficult part to realize for @DarkSilver.
This! Thank you dude.
 

bts

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Yeah, you need a version of wine patched with the WGL-Sharelist fix: Read

PlayonLinux.com has a precompiled patched binary for linux. Doesn't seem to have one for mac. You will need to compile from sources to get it to run:



# Clone the Wine GitHub repo with the source code
git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git
cd ~/wine-git

# Checkout to specific version
git checkout wine-1.7.48
# if wine-1.7.48 doesn't work, try 1.7.21 - that definitely works

# Download and apply the patch we are doing all this for
wget

cat ./WGL-ShareList-Hack.patch | patch -p1

# Congfigure the patched Wine
./configure
# And actually start the build
make
Tried this, but couldn't get wine up and running (encountered a lot of issues because my xcode version is the latest and 1.7.48 doesn't seem to be compatible with it). Anyways, I'm posting this to let others who are faced with the same problem know that with Wine-Staging (2.22 version), this game works perfectly with vanilla configuration (no -force-opengl needed).

Hope this is useful.
 

Burt Reynolds Mustache

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Actually, the numbers are somewhat different. Among women, 3 out of 4 prefer to be subs and only 1 in 6 likes to be dom. Among men, there is a higher preference for doms, but it's still slightly less then half.



But does it really matter how many men are doms or subs or something else? Where does it say this game is meant to be played by male doms only?
Great article BTW, the numbers in the article I read line up pretty well for men (it was that about 2/3 were solely, or primarily dom, it would make sense that the 'switches' might favor being doms) but that's getting pretty far into the wilderness.

My point wasn't that only dom men should play the game. Hell, most people aren't into BDSM, so that would be very limiting. My point was that it seems pretty clear that most men do not hold a preference to being submissive, which the numbers seem to bear out. And being blackmailed into a submissive role, with very little warning and being unable to control it in any meaningful way probably contributed to the general dislike for Alice and this update in general. It entered into some uncomfortable territory.

If you don't like incest it's really, really hard to find anything romantic in such relations. I understand that well cuz I wouldn't be able to write a romance path in incest game as it feels just extremally dumb for me. DS mentioned it's about setting and I understand that fully. He shouldn't pick it as a genre in that case but it works marketing-wise so it's hard to judge him
Yeah, I get that. When playing IC games, any sort of romantic relationship with the mother feels strange as hell to me. It's why I rpefer the sisters, as not having any sisters myself I guess I can just see them as another girl, and wish for things to progress as expected along those grounds.
 
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yurialimt

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guys i dont knw what am doing wrong but since i got the last ver 11 , and i still cant trigger any new event , just the clink what am i doing wrong i waited Thursday for aunt and ann to sleep together but they never did what am i missing guys i cant trigger anything new ?
 

Kara Zor-El

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I think we're on the same page, here. I'm not sure this game is worth playing, anymore.
Eric haters votes cause this. I am sure most Eric haters wont mind playing this game as Eric character at beginning.
 

wiomn

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You do understand what the word "prefer" means, don't you? I'm asking because you seem to somehow have confused the concept of something not being my favorite thing versus being something that it totally unacceptable to me. Perhaps if you would have bothered to read beyond my first sentence, it would have made more sense to you.
You do understand what the word "like" means, don't you? I'm asking because you seem to somehow have confused the concept of you not liking something versus being something that is totally unacceptable to you. Perhaps if you would have bothered to read carefully before reacting, it would have made more sense to you.

Anyway, you seem pretty worked up about this whole issue, considering it's just not your favorite thing ;)
 

Shiva0067

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Yeah, I get that. When playing IC games, any sort of romantic relationship with the mother feels strange as hell to me. It's why I rpefer the sisters, as not having any sisters myself I guess I can just see them as another girl, and wish for things to progress as expected along those grounds.
I agree with this. I do not have a sister, so for me the Romance/Play story is believable. Start with play/practice kissing, add that to the family love/affection, then things go a bit further. The dating (to me) could be similar, go to a movie/play/concert/whatever, hang out, play together, and feelings could grow to be something beyond friendship/family. The Mother side is more difficult for me (as I have a mother), but if think about it I could see a similar path (with a LOT more build-up/steps).

As to 'writing' a story with the big 'I', it seems like the best option for me would be to temporarily 'forget' that the characters are related and treat them as childhood friends and write the 'Romance' as if the friendships became more. A similar method could be done with Max and Ann/Mom, treat them as young guy and hot neighbor that end up attracted to each other.

Just some thoughts.
 
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RazorX

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why is every part of this game designed to stop you fucking Lisa even when shes supposed to be your girlfriend its starting to piss me off how little you can actually do in what is essentially a porn game.
 
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snogard

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Just saw this on another site

Not every event in 0.11 is obvious and sometimes you'll have a little to unlock them, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. Judging by the reactions of people who played it so far, 0.11 turned out to be pretty good.

Work on 0.12 already started and you probably want to know what's going on in it. As I already said in the past, it's going to have Olivia. I therefore want to combine Olivia route and Lisa on the development time. Olivia and start relationships with her in 0.12. It wants to be a new opportunity, not related to Alex or Olivia route. And do not worry, Lisa does not mind, I promise


I'm planning to continue Lisa's sex ed. 0.11 has a teaser of this story. I might be able to make a new movie too.

We're going to have a poll about future versions of the game. If majority prefers 0.11 format, all updates from 0.13 onward will be thematic.

PS: By the way, this month you'll get some interesting news, maybe even several. We'll talk about it more in the future.
 

yurialimt

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omg guys i cant figure any new event beside the clinic one thats all i cant do anything else anyone in 11 ver , am i that stupid or this game has getting pretty hard to figure >< any help ?
 

Ignazzio

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I agree with this. I do not have a sister, so for me the Romance/Play story is believable. Start with play/practice kissing, add that to the family love/affection, then things go a bit further. The dating (to me) could be similar, go to a movie/play/concert/whatever, hang out, play together, and feelings could grow to be something beyond friendship/family. The Mother side is more difficult for me (as I have a mother), but if think about it I could see a similar path (with a LOT more build-up/steps).

As to 'writing' a story with the big 'I', it seems like the best option for me would be to temporarily 'forget' that the characters are related and treat them as childhood friends and write the 'Romance' as if the friendships became more. A similar method could be done with Max and Ann/Mom, treat them as young guy and hot neighbor that end up attracted to each other.

Just some thoughts.
From different polls it seems to be true that most fans just ommit blood relations and focus on a cool setting with 1 dude, 1 innocent teen, 1 not so innocent teen and 1 milf. That's pretty standard and really easy to setup. But not everyone can do so and I can't switch to forget about that since realism is one of my kinks. I suspect it might be the case with DS and many other devs. It's much easier to ignore some facts when you're just a player, but if I had to write some story in which some teenager wants to bang his own family it's just physically impossible for me without some strong blackmail, mind control or rape. It's easy to write about about elves and magic as setting allows that but you can't create sensible incest setting as in comparison to fantasy it seems illogical in every point. That's why I prefer if dev is making games which he can actually feel.
 
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