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goku1234

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Jun 12, 2017
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sigh..i love being a DOM its nice something new to me i was getting use to the idea.and alice out right you know. it be nice you know to be nice to them like buy them gifts and things if i cant have lisa then alice can have her. i take Olivia then for myself or least hope. so sorry if she not happy with me fine done and same for alice. i will not be back stab by someone who i thought care for MC.
 

random887766

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Mar 19, 2017
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@DarkSilver If your main problem with writing romance for max and lisa is that they are related, why not just take that out of the equation. At least while writing romance for their scenes don't think of them as being related. Instead come at those scenes with the understanding these are two characters who have known each other their whole lives and are just friends trying to move into a romantic relationship. Their are plenty of people in the world who have known their significant others their whole lives and moved on to romantic relationships.

Also keep in mind max and lisa are not actually brother and sister. They are not real people. They can not be blood related if they have no blood. I understand from a writing standpoint you need to understand the characters relationship with each other and their motivations for the things they do. But just in your own head couldn't you take the fact they are brother and sister out of the scenario and just write for the characters that way.

In fact you created the characters so if you wanted to you could even decide that max is secretly adopted and they are not related by blood at all. That would not be something that would have to come up in the story but it could be something you could think to yourself to get around the issue.

I suppose what it really comes down to is if your problem is that they are related by blood or that they have been raised together. So would you have a similar issue writing for characters that are related by blood who have never been around each other? What about characters who are not related by blood who have grown up together? For instance if you were writing for characters who's parents were best friends. Who are not related to each other but were raised together and had that sort of sibling bond then later in life decided to move on to a romantic relationship.
 
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enokard

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Hello @DarkSilver
While you're here, I wanted to thank you about your latest update. It is very good for me and I hope that you pursue this path according to your plan.

I don't understand why a few people want romance in a game with incest. I simply fail to understand... But well, like you said : "so many men, so many minds".

Very good work, Sir. Many thanks to you.

Because it's a game of my team, right?. I do appreciate feedback and I'm counting it, but I'm not trying to implement your ideas.
I agree with you entirely.
 
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Shiva0067

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@DarkSilver, I created a moderately detailed review that I am quoting here should you wish to see some thoughts on various issues in the most recent update.

Well, I made a post yesterday, and having sleep, thinking time, and reading the pro/con good/bad love/hate etc. posts since then I'm going to do another. Will put my thoughts in organized spoilers to avoid a massive wall of text. Read and take from this what you want.

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Well, there are my thoughts on the update. MUCH later I may throw out ideas for what I'd like to see going forward but not sure. For me this month had some nice, poor, and bad parts. hopefully moving forward DS will produce far more nice and good parts while getting rid of the bad and poor.

Just some FAR to longwinded thoughts. :)
As I commented in a later (and shorter) post one of the biggest issues was timing. The changes with Alice just seemed to happen far to quickly (and a bit inconsistently). Had the changes happened over several more scenes they may not have been strongly disliked by people. This was also a factor with Lisa.

Also wanted to make a suggestion that I have made here before dealing with the Romance issue. Just leave most of it off screen. :) Have Max set up a date, Have him meet with Lisa (or some other character), Then have them talk by the pool or coffee shop about how fun/weird/odd/interesting the date at the amusement park/theatre/movie/park/etc. was. basically make the 'Date' not be shown and just give a scene talking about it a couple game hours later.

With the relationship growth throughout the game you could also introduce a gifting option. Create gift 'Sets' (1) candy 2) toys/stuffed animals 3) clothes 4) other things) and them have each lady Hate/Neutral/Like/Love a particular gift in each set. This could be used to increase relationships throughout the game in addition to dating and romance.

I hope this wasn't to much and that you find something useful in my ideas/comments. Ty for listening/reading. :)
 

Ignazzio

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Hmm... If its below 28k$ than patrons tier dynamic had to change considerably. Still it's great you're still here. I appreciate that. I patiently wait for your new projects as this one isn't enjoyable for me anymore sadly. Hope you're doing well
 

Vodekur

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Because it's a game of my team, right?. I do appreciate feedback and I'm counting it, but I'm not trying to implement your ideas.
Mr. Silver, thanks for the continuous effort invested in the game. I saw that you intend to to join Olivia and Lisa's path again and I do welcome it. I have but one request. Is it possible to add the option where Ann sucks Max during the punishments before dinner, when Lisa's 'messes up'. It's one of my favorite scenes. If later on Max and Ann can have sex before dinner, would be even better! Thanks again for your time!
 
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JDreaper

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Oct 31, 2017
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@DarkSilver

hey can u help me out im already like kinda advance in the game now i can fk the sister n casting too but i dont know why the carpal tunned events are not popping up did i missed something important ,or is my game bugged, i dont want to restart the wholie cuz it took ages to have progress , kira alr like mentions the carpal tunnel disease but doesnt go futher than that

love ur game keep up the good work
 
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SDaddy666

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well, although it's a dom/sub relation ship, i don't buy it (bein into bdsm myself). It's stil VERY light, like a roleplay of a roleplay. I really feel that max could revert the situation or alice let go any time. I don't get why ppl get pissed off.

Now, this update didn't sucked. but there were no real new actions. The thing I expected was more content in the "mom comes up in the lobby when you're getting sucked" part. But ell, maybe in another update.

I think the issue is the "one char focus" system. it focuses on one opportunity and then we feel like there's less content maybe. And also the story doesn't seem to progress at a steady path. The ideal would be to progress everyone at each update but that would lead to less content also.

I think a better solution would be progresing two sidestories at the same time per update (yes that leads to a little more renders to do) so there's "two things to do" instead of one.

The good part i think is the tease implemented in every update now, like "we start this now, but it will continue in the next update" it's pretty good imo.

And finally yes, Ann. I really hope DS understands he cannot postpone the sex infinitely. This needs to happen soon. Or else patrons (and us) will get pissed off and bored etc etc but also the girl progression will become seriously unbalanced and i believe it could create more plotholes because you can do some things with some girls, and mom knows it and accepts it, but you still can't do some things with her etc etc, i hope you guys get me.

So yeah... already waiting for that next update, this path merge sounds promising, but less promising than sex with mom..
 

Braffereborn

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Dec 5, 2017
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Can I get a tiny bit of help with this. I have tried to download quite a few different versions of this file, and yet they all appear to just be image dumps with no .exe Is there any crack that we can confirm works or am I Sol?
 

Shiva0067

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Can I get a tiny bit of help with this. I have tried to download quite a few different versions of this file, and yet they all appear to just be image dumps with no .exe Is there any crack that we can confirm works or am I Sol?
Not sure if it helps, but check which link you are using in the first post. There IS an image dump (CG rip) at the bottom so you might be grabbing that by accident if you are downloading from somewhere else in the thread.

Hope that helps. :)
 
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deoclitian

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It's a good point, actually. Maybe you are right.
1) At this point everyone expected a relationship with Lisa and most still are still waiting for that ... take her out for a romantic dinner and all that good stuff
2) in this update you make Lisa seemed like she`s retarded , taking shit from Alice with every step
3) I used to like Alice before this update
4) how long are you still gonna delay sex between Max and Ann ? she doesn`t have any problems jerking him and giving him blow jobs all day, but she has a problem with sex with him ? she is single dude, she has needs as well , show her some love xd
5) in RL in every house or relationship fights sometimes happen, than you make up, add some nrg something...
P.S. good game, bad update
 

Braffereborn

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Not sure if it helps, but check which link you are using in the first post. There IS an image dump (CG rip) at the bottom so you might be grabbing that by accident if you are downloading from somewhere else in the thread.

Hope that helps. :)
Trying again now, lets see if it actually works this time. Went with transfer.sh from the top portion.

update: It worked thank you
 
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Corambis

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1) At this point everyone expected a relationship with Lisa and most still are still waiting for that ... take her out for a romantic dinner and all that good stuff
2) in this update you make Lisa seemed like she`s retarded , taking shit from Alice with every step
3) I used to like Alice before this update
4) how long are you still gonna delay sex between Max and Ann ? she doesn`t have any problems jerking him and giving him blow jobs all day, but she has a problem with sex with him ? she is single dude, she has needs as well , show her some love xd
5) in RL in every house or relationship fights sometimes happen, than you make up, add some nrg something...
P.S. good game, bad update
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Zamastro

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Would be interesting to read why last update sucks from your point of view.
if you gonna make romantic moments between max and lisa, please also consider Max - Ann or Alice , sorry but i don't like lisa. Or you can make a poll about which game char should u like more romantically with Max. I know it's your story and you're in charge of it but i would like to see romantically with any girls Ann, Lisa, Olivia and Alice.
 
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I thought the game was not fast enough .. I'm only at 30 days .. and then I see in the Save Game topic that has the most memory data over 200 days .. I'm a bit impersonal what such games to go.
 

RazorX

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@DarkSilver i am really loving the game so far but if i were to suggest something i would say the following:

1. its a bit too grindy and drawn out for an adult game in my opinion

2. i chose the Olivia route and im so sad its as limited as it is and was hoping it would be more in depth (kinda like kate, and come over more to spend time with me alone) i now wish i had gone down the lisa girlfriend path so it would be nice to be able to either have both as girlfriends since they seem to like that anyway or the ability to change my mind (i think i read in 0.12 there might be something like that)

3. the whole "Why so gloomy, Alice!" everyday is pissing me off so much, she earns money from her webcams stuff and now shes doing porn with us and still everyday she asks for money from me it needs to stop after she does the webcams stuff atleast (or like the rent she needs to require a certain amount to stop asking for a while) i give her $350 everyday and she still keeps asking im sorry but thats bullshit. for someone with no money she does seem to go out drinking and shopping alot and it really really bugs me now.

4. and so i dont go to crazy with the amount of text i will say this is the last thing i suggest, i know max is fairly young but hes not a complete idiot hes setup cams in the house to make money, he helped Alice make money, he manipulates everyone into doing what he wants and makes more money than everyone in the family and you are telling me he doesnt get pissed off and put his foot down after Kira keeps holding back info about the porn movies and expects him to walk into a studio shoot a porn movie in one take with only knowing his lines and no one elses or what other people will be doing or even the theme of the movie and if he makes a mistake he gets less money, give me a break if its pissing me off at this point it should be pissing him off. none of this would be possible without him so he should be atleast Kira's partner and have a say in what happens given this all started and is possible because of him.

well i dont like wall of texts so i will leave it there :D thats my opinion and suggestions moving forward i hope you find some of what i said useful and keep it in mind, for the most part i am enjoying the game but i found the first part very difficult given how time sensitive some of the stuff is so it would be nice if the game better guided you through the options that produced the better outcome given this is an adult game and you all know what we want out of it :D thanks.
 
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wiomn

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Oct 6, 2017
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The numbers if I remember correctly are about 2/3 dom to 1/3 sub with some mobility between roles for men. Women are almost exactly the opposite with 2/3 being exclusively or mainly sub, with a little under 1/3 being exclusively or mainly doms.
Actually, the numbers are somewhat different. Among women, 3 out of 4 prefer to be subs and only 1 in 6 likes to be dom. Among men, there is a higher preference for doms, but it's still slightly less then half.



But does it really matter how many men are doms or subs or something else? Where does it say this game is meant to be played by male doms only?
 
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