Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[RazorX]

@DarkSilver i am really loving the game so far but if i were to suggest something i would say the following:

1. its a bit too grindy and drawn out for an adult game in my opinion

2. i chose the Olivia route and im so sad its as limited as it is and was hoping it would be more in depth (kinda like kate, and come over more to spend time with me alone) i now wish i had gone down the lisa girlfriend path so it would be nice to be able to either have both as girlfriends since they seem to like that anyway or the ability to change my mind (i think i read in 0.12 there might be something like that)

3. the whole "Why so gloomy, Alice!" everyday is pissing me off so much, she earns money from her webcams stuff and now shes doing porn with us and still everyday she asks for money from me it needs to stop after she does the webcams stuff atleast (or like the rent she needs to require a certain amount to stop asking for a while) i give her $350 everyday and she still keeps asking im sorry but thats bullshit. for someone with no money she does seem to go out drinking and shopping alot and it really really bugs me now.

4. and so i dont go to crazy with the amount of text i will say this is the last thing i suggest, i know max is fairly young but hes not a complete idiot hes setup cams in the house to make money, he helped Alice make money, he manipulates everyone into doing what he wants and makes more money than everyone in the family and you are telling me he doesnt get pissed off and put his foot down after Kira keeps holding back info about the porn movies and expects him to walk into a studio shoot a porn movie in one take with only knowing his lines and no one elses or what other people will be doing or even the theme of the movie and if he makes a mistake he gets less money, give me a break if its pissing me off at this point it should be pissing him off. none of this would be possible without him so he should be atleast Kira's partner and have a say in what happens given this all started and is possible because of him.

well i dont like wall of texts so i will leave it there thats my opinion and suggestions moving forward i hope you find some of what i said useful and keep it in mind, for the most part i am enjoying the game but i found the first part very difficult given how time sensitive some of the stuff is so it would be nice if the game better guided you through the options that produced the better outcome given this is an adult game and you all know what we want out of it thanks.

 

[wiomn]

The numbers if I remember correctly are about 2/3 dom to 1/3 sub with some mobility between roles for men. Women are almost exactly the opposite with 2/3 being exclusively or mainly sub, with a little under 1/3 being exclusively or mainly doms.

Actually, the numbers are somewhat different. Among women, 3 out of 4 prefer to be subs and only 1 in 6 likes to be dom. Among men, there is a higher preference for doms, but it's still slightly less then half.

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But does it really matter how many men are doms or subs or something else? Where does it say this game is meant to be played by male doms only?

 

[Corambis]

But does it really matter how many men are doms or subs or something else? Where does it say this game is meant to be played by male doms only?

Personally, I'd prefer the game to not focus on domination or submission at all, or at least not to make it a focus. If it's going to happen, I'd prefer to be the dominant one, although not a Dom, if that makes sense. But the game forces you into the role of submissive, without any choice, and without any warning that this was going to be "The Submissive Game of a Lifetime". Maybe that's why DS is only receiving positive feedback from his Patreons? All that are left are submissives who both love the way the game is headed, and also want to please DS.

 

[wiomn]

Personally, I'd prefer the game to not focus on domination or submission at all

So, you don't like Ann's submission to Eric during Control, Max being tied to a chair by Kate and Alice, using handcuffs on Lisa, the bondage photoshoot with Kira, the second movie with Ann, all the spanking... There won't be much left, is it? Maybe you should look for a game that matches your preferences, and leave this one as it is for people who do enjoy it.

 

[Corambis]

So, you don't like Ann's submission to Eric during Control, Max being tied to a chair by Kate and Alice, using handcuffs on Lisa, the bondage photoshoot with Kira, the second movie with Ann, all the spanking... There won't be much left, is it? Maybe you should look for a game that matches your preferences, and leave this one as it is for people who do enjoy it.

You do understand what the word "prefer" means, don't you? I'm asking because you seem to somehow have confused the concept of something not being my favorite thing versus being something that it totally unacceptable to me. Perhaps if you would have bothered to read beyond my first sentence, it would have made more sense to you.

I don't expect BB or any game to totally match my preferences. But the game seems to be matching fewer and fewer people's preferences the longer it goes on, largely because it keeps changing what it is. Right now, the submissive guys are happier than they have been since Eric was taken out of the game.

 

[RazorX]

is there a Lisa private punishment like there's an Alice private punishment or not?

 

[armion82]

Guys,
Out of curiousity, i found this while surfing, one source but seems legit:

A 2008 system comparison analysis by Ubisoft

Leading on from this, an Ubisoft executive gave a breakdown of the company's average development costs per game - with a DS title costing between 500,000 to 1,000,000 euros ($785,000-$1.57m), PS3/Xbox 360/PC titles averaging 12 million to 18 million euros ($18.8m-$28.2m) to create for all 3 SKUs, and a Wii game expected to cost 5 million to 6 million euros ($7.8-$9m) to develop.

So BB is out for almost a year now, according to the OP and it made what so far, almost 50K ? If yes, it will represent like 10% of the lowest budget on NDS 10 years ago?
Does it feels like 10% of the quality of it?
I'm not judging or trolling, i'm just interested by the financial system here.

It may feels like comparing carrots and tomatoes, but Patreon is a system which mainly design to finance a project and i was wondering if it feels like it here.

Honestly i do NOT have any references to judge anything which is why i'm asking your point of views. Do you think to your knowledge that the money in the bank is shown here so far? Or maybe it shows more than the tiny budget it gets..

Enlight me.

Seems you don't have the info.He makes more than 30K $ per month for 8-9 months.So far almost year after BB 0.1 he is somewhere around 300K $.Of course we should reduce that with all taxes.

 

[markmaso]

Well, it will come, eventually

i just think your game needs a wrap.a good finale that closes it with a bang.now i think its in the “more of the same state” and you may disagree but the ann sex has been DRAGGED wayyy to far.peole have waited almost a whole year.also kira story also needs a run because she doesnt have sex scenes through gameplay.
thats what ive been saying in a nutshell here

 

[El bacca Del Chew]

Seems you don't have the info.He makes more than 30K $ per month for 8-9 months.So far almost year after BB 0.1 he is somewhere around 300K $.Of course we should reduce that with all taxes.

Oh ok thanks for the info !
Then here my question again, does the result so far up to the level of financial resources?
Not aiming at you only ofc but will welcome your point of view.

 

[Fadge]

@DarkSilver If you are not considering love/romance in a dom/sub relationship, realize that IT IS RAPE !
Dominance / submission is all related to trust and love. If not, it is a crime.
Please, if you don't understand it, give up with the writing of the script of your game to someoneelse and focus on the renders (which are very good)
Considering anal is incompatible with love/romance WTF !
And visit the fan art thread, and what you will see : kisses, carress ...
Now I am really angry at you
You are visiting this thread to try to understand why you are losing patrons, that's all. The only post you have considered is the one telling you that most of men prefer dominance against submission. pfff...
I understand you want to make money and finance your other game, but what you are doing is against your own interest.
Even in this pile of nonsense that became the story of BB you can make the good choices and return the situation. You are now in a state (and it is your fault) that the sex with ann and lisa will automatically set an end to the game, as it can be the beginning. Give the script to someone who understand love,romance,domination,jealousy.
(For info I was one of your patrons, a long time ago)

 

[Jack73]

@DarkSilver If you are not considering love/romance in a dom/sub relationship, realize that IT IS RAPE !
Dominance / submission is all related to trust and love. If not, it is a crime.
Please, if you don't understand it, give up with the writing of the script of your game to someoneelse and focus on the renders (which are very good)
Considering anal is incompatible with love/romance WTF !
And visit the fan art thread, and what you will see : kisses, carress ...
Now I am really angry at you
You are visiting this thread to try to understand why you are losing patrons, that's all. The only post you have considered is the one telling you that most of men prefer dominance against submission. pfff...
I understand you want to make money and finance your other game, but what you are doing is against your own interest.
Even in this pile of nonsense that became the story of BB you can make the good choices and return the situation. You are now in a state (and it is your fault) that the sex with ann and lisa will automatically set an end to the game, as it can be the beginning. Give the script to someone who understand love,romance,domination,jealousy.
(For info I was one of your patrons, a long time ago)

so you think we live in a world full of rapists.
if I meet a woman who is willing to have sex with me, only sex, nothing cuddles and sweet words ... I am a rapist.
love / romance has almost completely disappeared, perhaps it existed at the time of my grandparents.
today you go to a bar, a disco, a concert, you meet a person for the first time and 2 hours later you're fucking her.
Then big brother is a story focused on incest, on sex not on love, romance. These last elements that I do not see in any porn game.
If you want romantic stories, love stories .... I recommend the Argentine soap operas.

 

[Fadge]

so you think we live in a world full of rapists.
if I meet a woman who is willing to have sex with me, only sex, nothing cuddles and sweet words ... I am a rapist.
love / romance has almost completely disappeared, perhaps it existed at the time of my grandparents.
today you go to a bar, a disco, a concert, you meet a person for the first time and 2 hours later you're fucking her.
Then big brother is a story focused on incest, on sex not on love, romance. These last elements that I do not see in any porn game.
If you want romantic stories, love stories .... I recommend the Argentine soap operas.

Just learn to read before answering !
I'am talking about a DOM/SUB relationship
Poor guy are you if you think there isn't love in this world.
BB is all about dominance and submission, and this kind of relation without consent is just rape.
You will finish in jail if you are alucky, and you will understand what is domination and submission in the showers

EDIT :

RAPE DEFINITION : Rape is the act by which a person is forced to a sexual act, by force, surprise, threat, trick or more widely, without his/her consent.

So, if @DarkSilver is not considering love/romance in BB, as all sexual act are done with trickery, IT IS A RAPE GAME ! Final point

And Darksilver READ ABOUT INCEST !! There are a lot of examples of incest relations with love.
So you named your game "incest story of your life" and don't know anything about incest. That's why my advice is : Give the script of the game to someone who understand these subjects. It is in your own interest.

 

[troll822]

Just learn to read before answering !
I'am talking about a DOM/SUB relationship
Poor guy are you if you think there isn't love in this world.
BB is all about dominance and submission, and this kind of relation without consent is just rape.
You will finish in jail if you are alucky, and you will understand what is domination and submission in the showers

EDIT :

RAPE DEFINITION : Rape is the act by which a person is forced to a sexual act, by force, surprise, threat, trick or more widely, without his/her consent.

So, if @DarkSilver is not considering love/romance in BB, IT IS A RAPE GAME !

And Darksilver READ ABOUT INCEST !! There are a lot of examples of incest relations with love.
So you named your game "incest story of your life" and don't know anything about incest. That's why my advice is : Give the script of the game to someone who understand these subjects. It is in your own interest.

Really dude? You're preaching morals on a forum that more or less pirates games that have to do with rape, incest and every kind of perversion? Really?

 

[coolshot]

thanx

 

[Vayleton]

@DarkSilver Seems like it all has been Lisa related, these past pages. But I would like to say that Ann and Kira needs more content as well. And sooner then later, it has been the same for a while now. I like how the interaction between Ann and Max are, they are changing by every update. I do hope that they get closer emotionally as well as physically. It's way past the time for Ann and Max to do something els then what they do now every day. Kira need something new, she is kinda not in the game atm. 0.11 update I found okay'ish. Was some nice sex scenes, but the whole Alice dom was kinda out of place. But it was good to see that she started to turn away from it kinda..

I personally don't really care that much about Lisa and Olivia content. But thats just me, I care more for the older characters in this game. So I hope that you can beef up the content regarding Ann and Kira. And sex, more sex with Ann and Kira, and do make the pill effect show up during the sex scene. I thought it would in this update, but it did not. At least not verbally, which it should.

 

[Snugglepuff]

@DarkSilver If you are not considering love/romance in a dom/sub relationship, realize that IT IS RAPE !)

Woah there, now just hold the fuck up!

In no way does a non-romantic relationship that includes bdsm to any degree, constitute rape.
You're talking about something you clearly have no understanding of, and I highly recommend you go spend a considerable amount of time actually researching things before you open your mouth.

Sex without romance happens all the time, and that includes a bdsm relationship.

@DarkSilver Seems like it all has been Lisa related, these past pages. But I would like to say that Ann and Kira needs more content as well.

Ann's been getting more updates than any other character for the past few releases, with Kira getting tangential plot related updates.
If anything, Kira needs her own update, to the extent that Ann/Lisa/Alice have gotten, or at the very least including updates for her in upcoming releases.

 

[bauchnabel]

Why so serious?
This is a funny game with a weird familiy!
Max: wants to screw them all
Aunt Kira: wants to help him
Alice: is a bitch who wants to earn money with webcams and porn and likes to have fun with her girlfriend and max and lisa
Lisa: is very curious and sub from the beginning, she is doing everything max and alice asks her for, and keeping virginity is just an idea to keep interesting.
Ann: is the first prize! She is allready sucking max's cock and enjoys swallowing his cum, is not shy anymore to show him her body nude, even gives him a show when changing clothes before shoping. So she likes to be her sons object of desire.
Have a look at the great ingame images, they are all enjoying it and are curious for more.
They have all fun with each other, and we are the viewers who can enjoy the show.

Arguing about sub/dom/romance is funny but offtopic somehow.
This game is about breaking the biggest taboo! They all are willing to do that and everyone is accepting it without beeing jealous.
Its pretty clear what is coming sooner or later:
Ann is still protectiv towards lisa, but soon she will give her lessons with may als prop and you can count on it that ann will suck him while lisa is watching and lisa will convince mom for sure to suck his cock pretending she wants to learn how to do it.
Finaly Lisa wants to loose her virginity to max while ann is watching and maybe alice takes part of this event.
Max will have to fuck ann first, to prove her he has good skills in fucking her, so he will need some training with ann.
Lisa is like Kira, manipulating and focused on having fun, so she soon will take part when mom is sucking max in lounge and this will start with blowing him and later alice will also take advantage of her mom somehow, first touching, than licking and later using sextoys. Alice's argument to convince mom will be training for doing movies.

The other girls that are not related with our heros are only attachment to bypass the time they all doing it with each other. The female family-members will be agains the idea max fucking any other girls and only wants to share him with the family... so they will find a way to get rid of them, like max got rid of eric. So we dont need to wait for romance with olivie or other supporting characters.
Is romance really needed here? Well, this is a family, they are closer to each other than to anyone else. And max fucks allready his sisters in some way. The only part where romance could be needed to bring this story forward is mom and max. Even she is doing that things she is doing so far, she will need a push to spread her legs for max. So she needs to admit to herself that she is adoring his cock and is willing to let him fuck her. But she cant do it just for fun or to do a movie. Max will have to conquer her heart soon and prove her he is worth to fuck her. This mom&max relation will be the most difficult part to realize for @DarkSilver. Not because of finding a plot to tell that part of the story, there would be many ways! It will be hard, because this game is based on multiple repeatable events and such an complex task for max to seduce his mom needs a special gameplay, because no one wants to this to be done by daily buying flowers for 100 days or other stupid grinding stuff. So DS maybe will need to think about new game-elements like and bigger storypart with not repeatable scenes, different locations and some nice twists.
But to be honest, as soon max is allowed to fuck her regular, the main-game will be over! Ok, DS can show us her getting fucked in every hole ( i wanna see that of course ) and the family can do wild sexorgies an some nasty porn, but at that point it will be hard to bring up new interesting content.
After this point it will be hard to entertain the viewers, so i am very curious about the coming plots is that game.
I hope DS will be creative, because i am pretty sure he cant wait showing max and ann fucking in all way's!
What might be the final stage in BigBrother? Letting Max fuck all of them in every room, in every way, doing nasty fetish games woth his family, or will that game get a new bigger part about Kira and maybe an possible son of her?
Who knows ...

I like this game, i like the characters and i like to see them fuck.
Please don't be so impatiently about the things that will have to come.... if anyone wants to start a new game and immediately see fucking mom in the ass, he should better watch porn

 

[Brontozaurio]

Seems you don't have the info.He makes more than 30K $ per month for 8-9 months.So far almost year after BB 0.1 he is somewhere around 300K $.Of course we should reduce that with all taxes.

Just even taking the 28k $, at 120 images per update (average) is more than 200$ the image, considering that once you have the background and models is just move their extremities a bit and render is a pretty well paid job. He can work a week a month a just light his cigars with notes from all the poor people who still send him their money expecting to see ann fuc*ed before they die

 

[Darkaura]

i just think your game needs a wrap.a good finale that closes it with a bang.now i think its in the “more of the same state” and you may disagree but the ann sex has been DRAGGED wayyy to far.peole have waited almost a whole year.also kira story also needs a run because she doesnt have sex scenes through gameplay.
thats what ive been saying in a nutshell here

And yet more patrons join month to month... He could do a movie shoot and flush out one of the new characters, month to month, and as long as the renders are good, and he does not go to far into niche fetish land, I am still on board.

 

[Kalf]

Romance just didn't work after all stuff that happens, unfortunately.

It's not like anyone wants a fucking wedding. But the character development after the spankstuff that happened should be more intimate.(for the path with lisa at least)
Its an easy excuse to say that things can't work bc they can't work. I think your biggest problem is, that you're insecure asf. (another problem is, that max is turning into a uncaring pos and lisa turns out to be a retard)
At least try to write a story that is coherently to it previous updates.