I do know what "like" means, and no, I don't like the things you list. I do like other parts of the game, even if the parts you list are becoming more and more... well, dominant. It's not like the game was this focused on the dom/sub thing from the beginning. There were elements here and there, but it's become more and more the focus of the game, particularly with this update. Like a lot of other people, I have some slim hope that DS will see that people aren't really that happy with the way things are going and try to right them. But as it is, I suspect that Patreon will make him take the incest out of the game before we can put the cock into Lisa and Ann.You do understand what the word "like" means, don't you? I'm asking because you seem to somehow have confused the concept of you not liking something versus being something that is totally unacceptable to you. Perhaps if you would have bothered to read carefully before reacting, it would have made more sense to you.
Anyway, you seem pretty worked up about this whole issue, considering it's just not your favorite thing
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I'm kind of surprise about one thing. How Dark Silver don't have any problem with Patreon new rules ? He just **** incest word in the description but nothing change for him unlike for Mr.dots for exemple.
I'm working on a project about twins so i'm interested about anything can help me to pass through Patreon shitty rules xD
I'm working on a project about twins so i'm interested about anything can help me to pass through Patreon shitty rules xD
Well, I don't know when the spanking was introduced, but seeing how it is fundamental to the game, that must have been pretty early. And there aren't many other games that keep track of a stat called Authority, and where the MC himself can get spanked. The mix of 'soft-BDSM' and incest has always been one of the things that made this game popular, I think.
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It's probably a matter of time. Today another big dev has been taken down. Patreon is just slow. It will depend on his reviewer but I doubt he won't be suspended in a couple months.
I don't have experience, or inside knowledge, but I would suggest avoiding anything about family/incest in your title or in descriptions. You might also wish to avoid pictures that look to similar (family resemblance) on Patreon. Other issues have included how young some characters may look, School settings that could cause questions about character's ages, and images that a reviewer might consider being to revealing outside the paywall (and sometimes behind it.
Honestly the best thing to do is hope for a reviewer that isn't extreme and be careful about putting to much information/detail on you page.
You may also want to look through the Patreon thread on this site to see if there is good information there.
Hope that helps.
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Ok, first, nah the votes of people who wanted Eric gone did not cause this. Eric was badly handled at his introduction, we just had a fuckup with a fuckup.
2. Hell I'd like that game idea more. Imagine, you are a guy trying to a hot submissive woman out of her house. She also has a hot conniving sister, and two hot daughters that you want to fuck. The only thing in your way is a pervert kid who wants to fuck his family. Your goal? Destroy that little asshole's life while corrupting the family using your ill gotten cash.
Seriously, we need that game NOW!
Why is it so many peole don't actually read threads, take context into account and then respond as opposed to forming knee jerk reactions and spewing bullshit responses.
Look kid. It's all about setting and meeting expectations. The mild sub shit that existed in this game early on was almost entirely avoidable, if you suck at peeping. You only get spanked in this game if you really want to. The general build up has been Max becoming the man of the house, helping mom with her money problems, helping Alice with hers, buying shit for Lisa, and all that noise. The big bondage scene between you and Kira, Max getting tied up was optional as well. The stuff with Alice forces you to be a little bitch. Not only that it cuts off the ability to fuck Lisa without Alice around unless you want ot get punished. It puts the player, whether they like it or not, into a submissive position, and that is something people have a pretty violent reaction against.
Welcome to Big Brother. Enjoy your time with the game.
Yeah, but if you are going to cater to fans of the kink It only makes sense to then give them what they want. Especially after setting the expectations of romance, or at least pseudo-romance, since very much the beginning. As a writer, sometimes you need to power through an uncomfortable but necessary scene that needs to happen. The lead up with Lisa has just been ignored and switched out with something else because of this. It's not even like people are asking for it to be a deep true romance that sings across the ages. It just needs to meet the standard of writing that people have come to expect from BB, and I'll let you come to your own conclusion as to how high a bar that is.
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another moralist preacher. I will also be a poor boy ... but you and your morals will not save the world.
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Agree with that. He should've been much easier for players to avoid. That and this unfortunate subtitle "Incest story of your life" created this whole shitstorm in my opinion.
That would be such a dope idea. And in terms of reality even if you'd be the most sleazy type of guy who would bang everything that moves (just like original Max) you'd be still doing a good thing stopping this freak and sending him for a camp. When played from different side, incest games would be fascinating. DMD from ,,silly and romantic" dad-daughter game would become a game in which you're trying to save a girl who has a mental, perverted father who's banging her friends and wants to bang her ruining her life. That would be educational.
True but as I said it's not always possible. Early incest stages are easy to write regardless of your opinion about it as it's such an easy theme. It's much harder later and with all respect to DS I don't consider most game developers as a writers. That's the reason I find most incest devs playing it so slow. It's really uncomfortable to write such a thing in later stages of relationship. I feel like Lisa's romantic path is just an imaginary path which was never a case. In early stage when game was somewhat sandboxish she talked about romance but I never thought she had Max in mind. In my opinion those who immersed themselves into him as an MC thought so as in normal no blood-related setting it could be a case. The thing is that some things aren't uncomfortable for a person but just unknown and you can write about something you don't know. I would be uncomfortable as hell to write about bestiality as I really don't like it, but I wouldn't be able to write romantically about incest as I find it like 2+2=434 while bestiality is just an exeptional sexual activity.
guys is there a method to display the images in the "images" folder ?? I can not open them ... thanks
On the first page of this thread is a link to a CG Rip. That has the game images so you can look at them all without playing through the game.
Hope that helps.
The closest thing are the basic and updated Mods on the first page. Be careful because the is a small glitch that sets money to zero once or twice if you get to much cash. Just take money out of you website if it happens and you need cash quick.
Hope that helps.
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just use the cheat menu to give yourself $10,000 when needed
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Yeah, unlimited is a bad word to use, just enough you know, i'm just starting the game, struggle to make 100 bucks.
If Eric is still present in your game try to keep LESS than $500 in cash. if you go over that you can have situations you might not be ready to deal with. For more questions on gameplay/walkthrough/assistance you should go to they Walkthrough/help/guide thread.
Thank you so much!!On the first page of this thread is a link to a CG Rip. That has the game images so you can look at them all without playing through the game.
Hope that helps.
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Or in !Dreams of Desire you're working with an organization trying to stop some asshole kid from unleashing hell upon the world while he uses his power to rape his family.
I see what you're saying, but I do think that you are downplaying just how much the game implied that romance would be if not THE endgame, but at least an endgame.
In games a big part of the game is setting a goal, then giving the player hints as to how he is going to get there. In BB the goal is set pretty early, Max wants to peep on, and eventually fuck his family. Even if that hadn't been stated in the game itself, the fact that BB is a porn game pretty much solidified fucking one's family as the goal.
So in order to achieve that goal you need to figure out what you need to do to achieve that goal. Ann is a control freak who thinks Max is a useless idiot. So logically you will need to convince Ann that Max can take control and contribute to the family. Alice is a party girl who hides it from her mom. She's also money crazy and thinks Max is below her. So you need to ply her with gifts and raise Max's standing to get anywhere with her. Lisa is the naive, curious girl who is into romance and wants to learn about dating and sex. So that signals to the player that in order to advance with Lisa you need to a) ease her in to sex and b) fulfill that romantic need.
What is required to move the relationships forward evolves, but in none of the cases does it move way from that original basic setup. Ann lets Max get away with murder because he's proven he can handle shit around the house and he steps up once Eric leaves. Alice keeps things moving with Max because he gives her exactly what she needs, first cigarettes, then lingerie, then weed, then the ability to fuck her GF. He gets closer to her by doing that again and again.
Then there is Lisa, there are two basic routes with her. They overlap a bit, as they both start with sex ed up until the masturbation scene, but the GF path focuses on teaching her about sex and becoming her boyfriend, while the Olivia path is about using her desire for romance to get closer to her. Now the interesting thing in both of these paths is that her virginity is constantly set up as the main goal. It is mentioned all the time, and every time it is mentioned up until .10 it's in the context of needing romance in order for it to happen.
So to the player it's not a leap at all to come up with:
if $LisaRomance == true
{
run SmashHymen
}
else
{
run blueballs
}
Now whether or not DS intended to make these implications I can't say. He claims that it was never his intention to make romance a thing, and I have no problem believing that. I mean he also somehow made a character that was so close to NTR it gave us all the negative emotions of NTR with none of the payoff.
So yeah, cheating an expectation that was set at the beginning of the fucking game even if unintentional is a recipe for pissing fans off.
As for writing what you don't know. You either research it, or copy someone who made it work. That's what professional writers do all the damn time. I mean I doubt @DarkSilver has fist hand knowledge of fucking his camwhore of a sister or what have you. In many ways, writing is fake it till ya make it.
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I hear your frustrations brother, but I understand the whole thing about Lisa protecting her cherry. Apparently, kids with religious upbringing feel it's morally acceptable to have anal or oral sex, and still be considered pure, or a virgin. And if Lisa is one of the God fearing folks, then she'll want to save herself for marriage. When I finally convinced Lisa to be Max's girlfriend, she specifically stated that she wasn't going to do vaginal. I think it's obvious that Max is going to be breaking that delicious piece of fruit, and you may be arguing that it is taking too long for DS to get us to that delicious piece of fruit, but damn! Can you imagine when Max gets to eat the forbidden fruit...with his snake?
Can I get me an 'Amen' my brothers and sisters!
Can I get me a 'Hallelujah'!
Sweet Jesus, we're going to destroy that cunt!
Ah-hem...what were we talking about again...?