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Kaine1994

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If Eric is still present in your game try to keep LESS than $500 in cash. if you go over that you can have situations you might not be ready to deal with. For more questions on gameplay/walkthrough/assistance you should go to they Walkthrough/help/guide thread. :)
Thanks!

Another member mentioned a laptop cheat that gives you 10.000 every time you need it.
I'm a complete noob when it comes to code etc, and i can't find proper guidance (i looked up in the forum) so a simple "2 step" would be amazing.

From anyone really, i just take this post as a start.
 

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Thanks!

Another member mentioned a laptop cheat that gives you 10.000 every time you need it.
I'm a complete noob when it comes to code etc, and i can't find proper guidance (i looked up in the forum) so a simple "2 step" would be amazing.

From anyone really, i just take this post as a start.
The Basic and updated mods use the in game laptop (option is added to that menu) to cheat. Just need to download the mod, and place the .txt file in the same folder as the .exe file. Then you start game and use the laptop choosing the cheats.

Hope that helps.

P.S. DO NOT improve any skills (massage, persuade, etc.) until you have used them in game. If you cheat them before you use them they haven't been unlocked and it can cause problems.
 
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Kaine1994

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The Basic and updated mods use the in game laptop (option is added to that menu) to cheat. Just need to download the mod, and place the .txt file in the same folder as the .exe file. Then you start game and use the laptop choosing the cheats.

Hope that helps.
MUCH simplier than i thought, thanks!

P.S. DO NOT improve any skills (massage, persuade, etc.) until you have used them in game. If you cheat them before you use them they haven't been unlocked and it can cause problems.
Will have that in mind.

Gotta say, it's a pretty healthy community for such a "twisted" kind of games.
I'm impressed.
 
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Why so serious?
if anyone wants to start a new game and immediately see fucking mom in the ass, he should better watch porn :)
Or just use some of the fan-fic art, and make a ren'py mod.





I might do a Mom one next, if someone wanted.

But usually I wait until @Rich does some tasty animation.
 
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Well @Kaine1994, I had just started a fresh game and have done it naturally - without mods or cheats, except getting a spider just because I seem to love torturing Alice - by following the 0.8 walkthrough in the OP, and using this online walkthrough for the first 10 days:
Money hasn't been a huge issue for me so long as you keep the ads for your cameras paid up. Check out the walkthroughs, even if you are going to cheat ever so often.
Someone earlier answered you to keep no more than $500 in you account while having Eric around is untrue unless you are at war with him. If you are at peace, don't worry about the money so much.

I would like to mention if you have any other questions on how to play through this game , to ask in this thread here:
 

Kaine1994

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Another noob question : I used the money cheat from the OP (10.000 $) and when i went to the online shop, the money dissapeared and i had 0$

What the hell.
 

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Can you imagine when Max gets to eat the forbidden fruit...with his snake?
I can! It will be a 3-6 renders doggystyle/cowgirl scene with a cum inside/cum outside choice or no choice at all. Sad but true.

Oh! and will be the same with Ann IF...coff!...i mean, when Max can finaly have sex with her. :FeelsBadMan:
 
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How Dark Silver don't have any problem with Patreon new rules ?
He's a pretty good Russian Programmer and probably already uses a Russian payment site, or made his own. If he moves from Patreon to another payment platform, he could take the entire NSFW artists with him. That is a bridge Patreon probably won't F with.
 

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Or in !Dreams of Desire you're working with an organization trying to stop some asshole kid from unleashing hell upon the world while he uses his power to rape his family.
While most incest games like BB have so illogical plot it basically doesn't exist, DoD is actually hilarious when taken logically. Story about a guy who can control any women so he picks to fuck his own family. Or Superpowered in which you're a guy with super powers who can have any girl so you fuck your own mother.
I see what you're saying, but I do think that you are downplaying just how much the game implied that romance would be if not THE endgame, but at least an endgame.

In games a big part of the game is setting a goal, then giving the player hints as to how he is going to get there. In BB the goal is set pretty early, Max wants to peep on, and eventually fuck his family. Even if that hadn't been stated in the game itself, the fact that BB is a porn game pretty much solidified fucking one's family as the goal.

So in order to achieve that goal you need to figure out what you need to do to achieve that goal. Ann is a control freak who thinks Max is a useless idiot. So logically you will need to convince Ann that Max can take control and contribute to the family. Alice is a party girl who hides it from her mom. She's also money crazy and thinks Max is below her. So you need to ply her with gifts and raise Max's standing to get anywhere with her. Lisa is the naive, curious girl who is into romance and wants to learn about dating and sex. So that signals to the player that in order to advance with Lisa you need to a) ease her in to sex and b) fulfill that romantic need.

What is required to move the relationships forward evolves, but in none of the cases does it move way from that original basic setup. Ann lets Max get away with murder because he's proven he can handle shit around the house and he steps up once Eric leaves. Alice keeps things moving with Max because he gives her exactly what she needs, first cigarettes, then lingerie, then weed, then the ability to fuck her GF. He gets closer to her by doing that again and again.

Then there is Lisa, there are two basic routes with her. They overlap a bit, as they both start with sex ed up until the masturbation scene, but the GF path focuses on teaching her about sex and becoming her boyfriend, while the Olivia path is about using her desire for romance to get closer to her. Now the interesting thing in both of these paths is that her virginity is constantly set up as the main goal. It is mentioned all the time, and every time it is mentioned up until .10 it's in the context of needing romance in order for it to happen.

So to the player it's not a leap at all to come up with:

if $LisaRomance == true
{
run SmashHymen
}
else
{
run blueballs
}

Now whether or not DS intended to make these implications I can't say. He claims that it was never his intention to make romance a thing, and I have no problem believing that. I mean he also somehow made a character that was so close to NTR it gave us all the negative emotions of NTR with none of the payoff.

So yeah, cheating an expectation that was set at the beginning of the fucking game even if unintentional is a recipe for pissing fans off.

As for writing what you don't know. You either research it, or copy someone who made it work. That's what professional writers do all the damn time. I mean I doubt @DarkSilver has fist hand knowledge of fucking his camwhore of a sister or what have you. In many ways, writing is fake it till ya make it.
Well, you're ofc right about targets and obvious ways to get them suggested by developer. But the big thing is that game has changed so much from its early versions that right now it's hard to say what was the original purpose and design behind Lisa's romantic path. I highly suspect it was meant for Alex as he was clearly much more important character in initial design (he was mentioned many times and until 0.4 on his main pages in game description Max was misspelled as Alex). But that's not important right now I guess. You're right that in a state we have now people can expect that. Lack of artistic integrity corrupted whole game after 0.4-0.5 and it's just chaotic when it comes to design. I don't think it's realistic for DS to write such a thing and I think it would be useless at this point as in my opinion he's right that after anal lessons with Kira it's way too hard to introduce any romance between them. As for Eric I don't agree he didn't introduced any NTR payoffs. He did, but he made them more or less unavoidable and payoffs in NTR are often brutal for those against it. Personally BB is one of the biggest dissapointments is adult gaming industry for me as a former Patron due to its horribly unstable design. DS is talented for sure so I really hope BB will end quickly and his new project will be something worth supporting.
 

Kaine1994

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Is there a way to destroy Eric once you made friends with him?
You know, likea double cross type of situation
 

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Is there a way to destroy Eric once you made friends with him?
You know, likea double cross type of situation
I haven't ever followed the friend route, but from what I understand you can 'declare war' on him later if you follow the friends route.

For Walkthrough help, game play questions you should go to the Walkthrough/help thread.

Hope that helps. :)
 
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So, just like coders then...


While most incest games like BB have so illogical plot it basically doesn't exist, DoD is actually hilarious when taken logically. Story about a guy who can control any women so he picks to fuck his own family. Or Superpowered in which you're a guy with super powers who can have any girl so you fuck your own mother.
Well, in Superpowered your main character is literally mentally ill. I still don't know how well it explains the reasoning for breaking the minds of every girl you can. At least Superpowered offers a lot of non family poon.

Well, you're ofc right about targets and obvious ways to get them suggested by developer. But the big thing is that game has changed so much from its early versions that right now it's hard to say what was the original purpose and design behind Lisa's romantic path. I highly suspect it was meant for Alex as he was clearly much more important character in initial design (he was mentioned many times and until 0.4 on his main pages in game description Max was misspelled as Alex). But that's not important right now I guess. You're right that in a state we have now people can expect that. Lack of artistic integrity corrupted whole game after 0.4-0.5 and it's just chaotic when it comes to design. I don't think it's realistic for DS to write such a thing and I think it would be useless at this point as in my opinion he's right that after anal lessons with Kira it's way too hard to introduce any romance between them. As for Eric I don't agree he didn't introduced any NTR payoffs. He did, but he made them more or less unavoidable and payoffs in NTR are often brutal for those against it. Personally BB is one of the biggest dissapointments is adult gaming industry for me as a former Patron due to its horribly unstable design. DS is talented for sure so I really hope BB will end quickly and his new project will be something worth supporting.
It kinda seems to me that your distaste for the concept might be clouding your view a bit. (not that I can claim to be king of objectivity.)

As I said though, the expectations were set early on. I can't speak as to his intent. I assume it was not romance, but pretty much every signal that could be thrown at a player eventually seducing Lisa via romance was. As for Alex, I think that's your love of seeing girls fucked by people who aren't the MC talking. I honestly think it's far more likely that there was a plan for Eric to fuck Lisa via his sex ed than there ever was for Alex. Remember she thought he really liked her, then when she wouldn't put out immediately in the way he wanted that caused the end of their relationship. With the romantic rival gone, that only leaves Max. Again, it's just being really bad at setting expectations. Was there a lot of fan backlash so he changed it? I came in at 0.6, and the whole story played out pretty much as I expected it to. (BTW, I was amazed that Alex was ACTUALLY scummier than Max. Drugging Lisa was pretty low, though Max seeming to have no problems with it was odd to me, even at the time)

I still don't see how the anal sex with Lisa precludes something in the future. I mean, did you think it was possible before, with the sex lessons going as they did, but suddenly the pounding of teenage ass made you go: "Well that's over"?
 
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It kinda seems to me that your distaste for the concept might be clouding your view a bit. (not that I can claim to be king of objectivity.)

As I said though, the expectations were set early on. I can't speak as to his intent. I assume it was not romance, but pretty much every signal that could be thrown at a player eventually seducing Lisa via romance was. As for Alex, I think that's your love of seeing girls fucked by people who aren't the MC talking. I honestly think it's far more likely that there was a plan for Eric to fuck Lisa via his sex ed than there ever was for Alex. Remember she thought he really liked her, then when she wouldn't put out immediately in the way he wanted that caused the end of their relationship. With the romantic rival gone, that only leaves Max. Again, it's just being really bad at setting expectations. Was there a lot of fan backlash so he changed it? I came in at 0.6, and the whole story played out pretty much as I expected it to. (BTW, I was amazed that Alex was ACTUALLY scummier than Max. Drugging Lisa was pretty low, though Max seeming to have no problems with it was odd to me, even at the time)

I still don't see how the anal sex with Lisa precludes something in the future. I mean, did you think it was possible before, with the sex lessons going as they did, but suddenly the pounding of teenage as made you go: "Well that's over"?
I know for me the anal doesn't preclude romance. I'd have preferred a route where the buttsecks didn't happen (in the context of a romantic path) to simplify things. But love is funny. It just kind of happens. Sometimes it's between two people in the old-fashioned sense. Sometime's it's two fuck-buddies who suddenly have that breakthrough moment where they realize it's not the act that brings them back, but the person performing it. Then the sex becomes entirely different because love gets added to the lust.

And, as shocking as this is, sometimes it can even happen between family members. Girls often worship older brothers or fathers. Mothers have that special son that she sees growing into a man that looks so much like his father... sure, most of it is abuse, and blackmail, or drunken lustful moments that they agree to mutually forget. But the romance ones can be the most sought after. It's what people expected at least with Lisa, and hoped for with others. We're still hoping that somehow Lisa's path will end with love and romance, and maybe a mini-max in Lisa's stomach.
 
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@DarkSilver If you are not considering love/romance in a dom/sub relationship, realize that IT IS RAPE !
Dominance / submission is all related to trust and love. If not, it is a crime.
Please, if you don't understand it, give up with the writing of the script of your game to someoneelse and focus on the renders (which are very good)
Considering anal is incompatible with love/romance WTF !
And visit the fan art thread, and what you will see : kisses, carress ...
Now I am really angry at you
You are visiting this thread to try to understand why you are losing patrons, that's all. The only post you have considered is the one telling you that most of men prefer dominance against submission. pfff...
I understand you want to make money and finance your other game, but what you are doing is against your own interest.
Even in this pile of nonsense that became the story of BB you can make the good choices and return the situation. You are now in a state (and it is your fault) that the sex with ann and lisa will automatically set an end to the game, as it can be the beginning. Give the script to someone who understand love,romance,domination,jealousy.
(For info I was one of your patrons, a long time ago)
Rape, not rape... I said already that's it's a bit out of scope. I proud that I was able to create such a good characters that people want to see romance with them. But they are characters. They are not people. There is no crime to rape your ...well ...graphics card, right? :)

I will not change the whole story just to satisfy romance lovers. But I do realize that they are exists and will treat them better soon (tm).
 

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Just even taking the 28k $, at 120 images per update (average) is more than 200$ the image, considering that once you have the background and models is just move their extremities a bit and render is a pretty well paid job. He can work a week a month a just light his cigars with notes from all the poor people who still send him their money expecting to see ann fuc*ed before they die
I so like virtual accountants who knows without any doubts how much money our team got, how much work it takes to create content and everything else around business processes :)
 

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Rape, not rape... I said already that's it's a bit out of scope. I proud that I was able to create such a good characters that people want to see romance with them. But they are characters. They are not people. There is no crime to rape your ...well ...graphics card, right? :)

I will not change the whole story just to satisfy romance lovers. But I do realize that they are exists and will treat them better soon (tm).
Hey DS, You can make a poll about which game char should u like to see more romantically with Max. I know it's your story and you're in charge of it but i would like to see small romantically part with any girls Ann, Lisa and Alice.

Please also consider this DS


Also thank you for being here DS
 
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