- Mar 28, 2017
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Yeah that would be you picking on the two words of a pretty long post regarding how INTO having sex she was until spankings....Note what I said was in regards to SHE DOES NOT VOLUNTEER FOR SEX UNTIL THE SPANKINGS!
But you wanted to nit pick the point and that was all you could seemingly dig your argument claws into!
So facepalm yourself pal!
- Jun 24, 2017
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Being a patron is not about BUYING a game. Especially when you can get it for free here, or on the 'rents. It's about supporting an artist, so that you get MORE art. And for the 40$ folks, they get some input on the direction of that art. And it seems absurd to me those folks who are jelly of DS making a buck, but don't bat an eye at EA making millions churning out yet another sequal, with a ton of DLC.
- Aug 24, 2017
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You do of course realize that saying these things is sort of admitting to everyone that your mindset is the issue here not the game itself right? (I'm not saying that as a criticism just a statement of fact here)
It was weird to you to write romance after anal but it wasn't weird at all to have experimenting teens do anal as their first sexual act? Hell even Married couples take years before they even attempt anal for the first time to change things up.
I get it that you thought it was a good way to maintain her virginity as a prize later on but the truth is you should have reversed the sexual encounters of Lisa and Mom so that Lisa was the one not willing to go beyond the BJ and Mom the one who allows Anal because it is pregnancy proof and she has probably already done it plenty of times with Eric.
Water under the bridge I suppose...
Part of the issue people here are having is the fact that there isn't much difference between the various characters in your story. They either like to Dom or Be Dom'ed and while they may enjoy the sex the truth is they tend to think of Max as a walking Dildo more than any serious lover. Fuck me and LEAVE attitude is the norm. The fact they are related is almost never brought up during the sex which is one of the most important kinks of the Incest genre.
You would have fewer complaints and have fewer issues branching out from the story, if you had assigned different relationship roles to each woman from the start. Take a cue from a game like Man of the House where the Mom is the lonely conflicted woman who has self doubt and guilt about being attracted to her son and having her lust overcome those inhibitions, The Older sister who prefers being submissive and despite early antagonizing of the MC gets blackmailed and realizes her excitement to be controlled. And the younger sister who just is obsessed with sexual desire and wished to experiment and chooses her loving brother to explore sex with a safe loving person.
As it stands the game is more of a CONTROL play than an Incest game. Those women being related to Max seems almost incidental as the turn ons for each seem to be which side of the Control angle they are on. If what you say is true about adding some romance then you still have one character left to write romance for...The Mother. They haven't had Anal or played the control game yet but you did hint that it was on the way after she does her next role which is a BDSM Movie. So you have already planned to remove any way to write romance for her as well.
I think you have to realize that the reasons you are having trouble putting some relationship variety in the story is due to your constant use of DOM/SUB and BDSM as a vehicle towards sexual encounter.
In a sense this is much more a BDSM genre game than an Incest game, and that is why you are getting the complaints you see here...We all played this game because we thought it was an incest game but all we have gotten really is a Power Play Control game instead.
One last note...After teasing everyone that dating with Lisa was going to happen You went and made an entire location and scene for dating and only then, halfway through it did you realize that it wasn't going to work for you so you changed the script mid coding and turned an attempt to make a romantic scene into nothing....a Worthless scene! If you saw it wasn't going to work you should have removed it from the game instead of torpedoing it mid way through the scene. It was this tease that we would get some romance only to find out halfway through it that it was not going to happen that has caused many of the folks who asked for and thought they were getting romance to turn on you.
You would have been better off just omitting that entire scene if you saw half way through it wasn't going to work for you.
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I understand your way of thinking ^^ I don't really know how to compare amateur you talk about but I know quality of renders are quite better than a lot of others adult games.
For the comparison with AAA games, I could close the debate saying this : "No porn in triple A".
But for more detail, adult game are destinated to a smaller public, so smaller than it's comparatively normal that every one pay more even for lower quality. And this effect is inflated with the paiement system of "every one pay that they want". A lot pay nothing and some cover all the fees.
- May 6, 2017
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yes a hype, because it’s without Eric!
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- Nov 11, 2017
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fair point
evidentely you are not talking about me as I also think the same of EA, just in this thread allow me to focus on BB and leave my thoughts (and yours) about the rest of the universe for another thread that deal with that
- Nov 11, 2017
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don't get my wrong, I also love the renders, just saying what he is doing with them...just beating around the bush just to avoid the thing it should had happen months ago
an i do respect all the developers who are working hard for their games, many have just "some" (as you said) supporters....but some are making a ridiculous amount of money and delivering as little as they can...i don't respect that
So is it true that you have to play all over again and the old saves wont work ?, In case of that does someone have a save for me to start with v0.11 or even when everything is done ?
- Mar 28, 2017
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After all lessons Max and Lisa must be something like Fox and Scully in sex education.
You know Lisa should ask not only Alice but also Elena/DmD/ and Tracy/DoD/ for next levels debauchery.
And Max can take some advices from David and Alex/Au-Pair Innocence/.
- Apr 11, 2017
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well said, @Asphyx!!
I remember when DS said that Max would start acting like a man after v0.7, are you guys think this is happening??
Ok, ok. I bet that Max acting like a real man is just something that "just didn't work after all stuff that happens, unfortunately.(HEHEHE)". Same with kissing, ero massage, romance...
Truth is that we care more about these characters that @DarkSilver himself! And the guy is right! They are nothing more than my Graphic Card consuming some energy. :FeelsBadMan:
Well ... I think it's because Max acts like a walking Dildo! He is a huge cock attached to a useless kid. Max fails as a MC lol
I remember when DS said that Max would start acting like a man after v0.7, are you guys think this is happening??
Ok, ok. I bet that Max acting like a real man is just something that "just didn't work after all stuff that happens, unfortunately.(HEHEHE)". Same with kissing, ero massage, romance...
Can't agree more!
Truth is that we care more about these characters that @DarkSilver himself! And the guy is right! They are nothing more than my Graphic Card consuming some energy. :FeelsBadMan:
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The game size is increasing as expected. Its becoming difficult and time-killing for us to download who have slow connection. At some point the game will become more than 3 or 4 GB. So Dark Silver should start to think about ch2 like MrDots did in DMD. I know it will require lot of work and will cause a massive change in the story line. But Today or tomorrow there will be no other way but to do this. I am not saying he needs to do it in the next version. He should just continue the story in a way that in can move to ch2 without any problem.
- Jul 19, 2017
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I'm not out to make a gotcha thing man. And aslo I admit that I'm not objective as Lisa is my favorite girl, by quite a bit. Nor am I trying to do an attack on your like of NTR. I'm just saying maybe take a step back and view these things through a different lens. It's why I try to look back and see am I crazy for thinking certain things based upon what was shown to us in the game. That's why I looked at set expectations, and I'm not saying that yours are invalid per se, but I do think that there is a lot more evidence for the Eric NTR stuff than there would be for the Alex stuff even with those typos you mentioned. Even if we were to take the whole Alex thing as him being a competitor, then there would have to be the option to beat him. Which would then put us back in the same position, I mean it's been ages since I played the Olivia arc, but I don't remember Max liking Alex much, and being jealous of him. That of course could just be because max is a petty douche, but that would be a signal being sent.
But again, a lot of that goes to the constant set of mixed signals that are sent in this game. It is why its so important to be clear in these things, especially when you are dealing with sex because people's feeling of disgust which is pretty much involuntary can get set off pretty easy causing severe negative reactions, especially if they aren't prepped for it. And BB's history has been one of not either setting or not meeting set expectations and the fallout from that on this board at least. When you say that the romance signal about Lisa is fake, maybe it's just mincing words but I would say it was, early on, a real signal that was used unintentionally, and then later we got actual intentional signals that were then abandoned.
As far as the anal stuff. I was thinking, maybe it's the term romance that is throwing people off. I mean I'm not talking that they need to run off into the sunset together and have a happy ending and babies. I think most people who want romance would be happen with her being affectionate towards Max, him making her feel special, and them getting some decent one on one time that isn't just a dirty quickie in the kitchen. I mean Alice and Max have loads of one on one scenes, several of which include sex, and several of which are a fair sight more intimate than anything with Lisa, who again is signaled to be the lovey-dovey one.
Then again, maybe I'm just not going to see Anal as a problem when I have read decades of manga that basically move from literally raping a little sister until it develops into true love. No one is asking for that here, that's what ICSTOR is for.
- Jul 19, 2017
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If decides to do romance for Ann and not for Lisa I will be done. Just plain done.
Also to @DarkSilver in 0.12 it says you can go from the Lisa GF arc to the Olivia arc, what about the other way around?
- May 8, 2017
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Np man. I'm fully aware of me being biased. In fact since I came to this forum I change from NTR guy to mostly anti-incest guy somehow
So my opinion on incest are usually stronger even tho I try to make them objective.In my opinion Eric was a competitor and Alex was meant to be a competitor. Whole scene with Alex is after Eric's been raped so I doubt it looks like it suppose to. I mean I wouldn't advertise a character which would appear in 4 short, similiar scenes. But that's all guesses and we both might be wrong. Only DS knows the truth.
Really nothing to add. I can't imagine intentional romantic signal from someone who can't write romantic scene in a given setting. I suspect it was meant for a slower plot development with Alex and some friends but that's just an idea without any evidence.
You're probably right. But after this anal scene every relationship with Max is simply mechanical and I doubt it's fixable. As someone said Max is a walking dildo. He's good to fuck you in a kitchen but I guess that's it. Romance in incest is not my thing and I understand DS in that regard but even putting that aside romantic interactions at this point would make his character even more inconsistent. And it's not like BB has the best characters on Patreon.
Don't you dare to touch my kawaii imouto. Japanese games are way too different in that regard to even compare them. Real incest isn't half as strong as in Patreon and it's different (usually it's grandpa - granddaughter or brother - sister). Their strongest fetish is rape so it's visible in other games. In case of incest and ICSTOR I kinda appreciate that as it's much more realistic but it's something rare here. Too many Japanese games and you won't be able to see anything out of place with tentacle monsters looking for love:/