Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Bephe]

I wish I could play as Eric (not Max)

 

[Brontozaurio]

I so like virtual accountants who knows without any doubts how much money our team got, how much work it takes to create content and everything else around business processes

Thanks ^^ that just the perfect answer.

That's so easy to compare what it's wrote on patreon with what some random guy get in their account. Without patreon fee, taxs, employees (or contrators), buying materials, etc. And without knowing anything about how it's hard to rendering 3d scene.

So just keep the hard work ! And please don't be striked by patreon

Habe a nice day

I hit a soft sport here..haha

Evidently I was jus making a point that won't change even if the figures are a bit lower, you take off fees and taxes (as in any other job btw, everybody has that problem, no need to mention it) and still it is a lot of money.
We all know how to use rendering programs and the work is done at the beginning setting the models, backgrounds etc, then the work is far easier and quicker.
Ds set some goals in order to work full time in this game, is been long since he got there, and what I Saying is that any amateur developer that works in their game in spare time finish a game sooner than the time he is taking. every update he tries to put as little as he can, now he says he will focus in just one character every update (there are 7 girls ingame so make you calculations).

Many people here have already said that he is milking all he can...what i wonder is how there are (some) people that pays 40$ a month for a long time when a triple A game, totally finished cost 70-100$

 

[Maldus]

Lesson (0.12)

 

[Asphyx]

Yup, definitely arguing to argue.

I never said she was in love with him in the fucking Lounge. Ever. I was responding to YOU saying she didn't enjoy the sex at all until she started getting spanked. Let me spell it out in the simplest possible terms:

DS made people think romance was coming. Then he took it back. He is a shitty writer.

Yeah that would be you picking on the two words of a pretty long post regarding how INTO having sex she was until spankings....Note what I said was in regards to SHE DOES NOT VOLUNTEER FOR SEX UNTIL THE SPANKINGS!

But you wanted to nit pick the point and that was all you could seemingly dig your argument claws into!
So facepalm yourself pal!

 

[Darkaura]

how there are (some) people that pays 40$ a month for a long time when a triple A game,

Being a patron is not about BUYING a game. Especially when you can get it for free here, or on the 'rents. It's about supporting an artist, so that you get MORE art. And for the 40$ folks, they get some input on the direction of that art. And it seems absurd to me those folks who are jelly of DS making a buck, but don't bat an eye at EA making millions churning out yet another sequal, with a ton of DLC.

 

[SDaddy666]

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promising. I didn't expect a preview so soon.

 

[Whitenicky]

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Omg, i am in love with 0.12 update Cant wait, looks good first preview
Lets go ANN

 

[nhatinhla4]

wait for new save as 0.11

 

[Asphyx]

Romance just didn't work after all stuff that happens, unfortunately.

Well, it was a bit too weird to write romance story after anal with Lisa.

What can I say... I can understand your point of view, but it was quite hard to write script. Thats it.

You do of course realize that saying these things is sort of admitting to everyone that your mindset is the issue here not the game itself right? (I'm not saying that as a criticism just a statement of fact here)
It was weird to you to write romance after anal but it wasn't weird at all to have experimenting teens do anal as their first sexual act? Hell even Married couples take years before they even attempt anal for the first time to change things up.

I get it that you thought it was a good way to maintain her virginity as a prize later on but the truth is you should have reversed the sexual encounters of Lisa and Mom so that Lisa was the one not willing to go beyond the BJ and Mom the one who allows Anal because it is pregnancy proof and she has probably already done it plenty of times with Eric.
Water under the bridge I suppose...

Part of the issue people here are having is the fact that there isn't much difference between the various characters in your story. They either like to Dom or Be Dom'ed and while they may enjoy the sex the truth is they tend to think of Max as a walking Dildo more than any serious lover. Fuck me and LEAVE attitude is the norm. The fact they are related is almost never brought up during the sex which is one of the most important kinks of the Incest genre.

You would have fewer complaints and have fewer issues branching out from the story, if you had assigned different relationship roles to each woman from the start. Take a cue from a game like Man of the House where the Mom is the lonely conflicted woman who has self doubt and guilt about being attracted to her son and having her lust overcome those inhibitions, The Older sister who prefers being submissive and despite early antagonizing of the MC gets blackmailed and realizes her excitement to be controlled. And the younger sister who just is obsessed with sexual desire and wished to experiment and chooses her loving brother to explore sex with a safe loving person.

As it stands the game is more of a CONTROL play than an Incest game. Those women being related to Max seems almost incidental as the turn ons for each seem to be which side of the Control angle they are on. If what you say is true about adding some romance then you still have one character left to write romance for...The Mother. They haven't had Anal or played the control game yet but you did hint that it was on the way after she does her next role which is a BDSM Movie. So you have already planned to remove any way to write romance for her as well.

I think you have to realize that the reasons you are having trouble putting some relationship variety in the story is due to your constant use of DOM/SUB and BDSM as a vehicle towards sexual encounter.
In a sense this is much more a BDSM genre game than an Incest game, and that is why you are getting the complaints you see here...We all played this game because we thought it was an incest game but all we have gotten really is a Power Play Control game instead.

One last note...After teasing everyone that dating with Lisa was going to happen You went and made an entire location and scene for dating and only then, halfway through it did you realize that it wasn't going to work for you so you changed the script mid coding and turned an attempt to make a romantic scene into nothing....a Worthless scene! If you saw it wasn't going to work you should have removed it from the game instead of torpedoing it mid way through the scene. It was this tease that we would get some romance only to find out halfway through it that it was not going to happen that has caused many of the folks who asked for and thought they were getting romance to turn on you.
You would have been better off just omitting that entire scene if you saw half way through it wasn't going to work for you.

 

[ckydu12]

I hit a soft sport here..haha

Evidently I was jus making a point that won't change even if the figures are a bit lower, you take off fees and taxes (as in any other job btw, everybody has that problem, no need to mention it) and still it is a lot of money.
We all know how to use rendering programs and the work is done at the beginning setting the models, backgrounds etc, then the work is far easier and quicker.
Ds set some goals in order to work full time in this game, is been long since he got there, and what I Saying is that any amateur developer that works in their game in spare time finish a game sooner than the time he is taking. every update he tries to put as little as he can, now he says he will focus in just one character every update (there are 7 girls ingame so make you calculations).

Many people here have already said that he is milking all he can...what i wonder is how there are (some) people that pays 40$ a month for a long time when a triple A game, totally finished cost 70-100$

I understand your way of thinking ^^ I don't really know how to compare amateur you talk about but I know quality of renders are quite better than a lot of others adult games.

For the comparison with AAA games, I could close the debate saying this : "No porn in triple A".
But for more detail, adult game are destinated to a smaller public, so smaller than it's comparatively normal that every one pay more even for lower quality. And this effect is inflated with the paiement system of "every one pay that they want". A lot pay nothing and some cover all the fees.

 

[Hlextor]

Funny how one of the most polemic parts in the game (Lisa Sex-Ed with Eric) is now one of the most hyped parts of the game.

yes a hype, because it’s without Eric! penedeyewink:

 

[Brontozaurio]

Being a patron is not about BUYING a game. Especially when you can get it for free here, or on the 'rents. It's about supporting an artist, so that you get MORE art.

fair point

And it seems absurd to me those folks who are jelly of DS making a buck, but don't bat an eye at EA making millions churning out yet another sequal, with a ton of DLC

evidentely you are not talking about me as I also think the same of EA, just in this thread allow me to focus on BB and leave my thoughts (and yours) about the rest of the universe for another thread that deal with that

 

[Brontozaurio]

I understand your way of thinking ^^ I don't really know how to compare amateur you talk about but I know quality of renders are quite better than a lot of others adult games.

don't get my wrong, I also love the renders, just saying what he is doing with them...just beating around the bush just to avoid the thing it should had happen months ago

And this effect is inflated with the paiement system of "every one pay that they want". A lot pay nothing and some cover all the fees.

an i do respect all the developers who are working hard for their games, many have just "some" (as you said) supporters....but some are making a ridiculous amount of money and delivering as little as they can...i don't respect that

 

[TheDoctorP69]

So is it true that you have to play all over again and the old saves wont work ?, In case of that does someone have a save for me to start with v0.11 or even when everything is done ?

 

[armion82]

Thanks for the preview @Maldus

Funny how one of the most polemic parts in the game (Lisa Sex-Ed with Eric) is now one of the most hyped parts of the game.


You're right we never got previews as early as now, must be DS anticipating his normal rythm so he can take a break on the holidays. The guy deservers a break.


0.12 sure looks interesting. New Olivia content, the end of path division for Lisa and this quite unexpected and very interesting new event with Ann. Maybe we even might get a new movie.

ALL BOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!!! :eazyHype::eazyHype::eazyHype:

After all lessons Max and Lisa must be something like Fox and Scully in sex education.
You know Lisa should ask not only Alice but also Elena/DmD/ and Tracy/DoD/ for next levels debauchery.
And Max can take some advices from David and Alex/Au-Pair Innocence/.

 

[Andarilho]

well said, @Asphyx!!

"truth is they tend to think of Max as a walking Dildo more than any serious lover."

Well ... I think it's because Max acts like a walking Dildo! He is a huge cock attached to a useless kid. Max fails as a MC lol
I remember when DS said that Max would start acting like a man after v0.7, are you guys think this is happening??
Ok, ok. I bet that Max acting like a real man is just something that "just didn't work after all stuff that happens, unfortunately.(HEHEHE)". Same with kissing, ero massage, romance...

It was this tease that we would get some romance only to find out halfway through it that it was not going to happen that has caused many of the folks who asked for and thought they were getting romance to turn on you.

Can't agree more!


Truth is that we care more about these characters that @DarkSilver himself! And the guy is right! They are nothing more than my Graphic Card consuming some energy. :FeelsBadMan:

 

[Xaos]

If what you say is true about adding some romance then you still have one character left to write romance for...The Mother. They haven't had Anal or played the control game yet but you did hint that it was on the way after she does her next role which is a BDSM Movie. So you have already planned to remove any way to write romance for her as well.

well said @Asphyx!
I still have hope for Ann.

 

[dipp007]

The game size is increasing as expected. Its becoming difficult and time-killing for us to download who have slow connection. At some point the game will become more than 3 or 4 GB. So Dark Silver should start to think about ch2 like MrDots did in DMD. I know it will require lot of work and will cause a massive change in the story line. But Today or tomorrow there will be no other way but to do this. I am not saying he needs to do it in the next version. He should just continue the story in a way that in can move to ch2 without any problem.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

That's such a dirty argument. I hate it since you can't logically argue with it as its always true. But since you used it I guess you are right that I'm not entirely objective and it's visible. That's probably due to the fact that for quite some time I consider DS's original design similiar to my own except for BDSM parts. That's probably just my visualization but the way he presents incest, NTR and basically everything makes me believe his tastes are much more similiar to mine than to those incest fans game is aiming for. Alex was advertised really strong before he came and there were like 5 ingame typos making Alex out of Max. Moreover whole Alex's scene is strongly forced in my opinion (guy dumps a hottie because she didn't want to fuck him? He had a bj already so it was clear he would bang her soon. That's just illogical). But he was implemented post Eric era so its hard to objectively judge that. I base my opinion on a fact that game was supposed to be a sandbox and I wouldn't make a sandbox with just 1 guy who can compete and that's totally biased opinion. Lisa's romance is surely signalized but I still base my opinion on a fact I can't think about incest in a romantic way and DS admitted that as well so that's just a fake signalization imo.


There could be something later but I admit that for me even if it wasn't incest it would be really unlikely to put romance after something like that. Sex lesson with your aunt in which you fuck your "love" in her ass? It doesn't sound like romantic prelude for me even tho some people would be able to do something with it I guess

I'm not out to make a gotcha thing man. And aslo I admit that I'm not objective as Lisa is my favorite girl, by quite a bit. Nor am I trying to do an attack on your like of NTR. I'm just saying maybe take a step back and view these things through a different lens. It's why I try to look back and see am I crazy for thinking certain things based upon what was shown to us in the game. That's why I looked at set expectations, and I'm not saying that yours are invalid per se, but I do think that there is a lot more evidence for the Eric NTR stuff than there would be for the Alex stuff even with those typos you mentioned. Even if we were to take the whole Alex thing as him being a competitor, then there would have to be the option to beat him. Which would then put us back in the same position, I mean it's been ages since I played the Olivia arc, but I don't remember Max liking Alex much, and being jealous of him. That of course could just be because max is a petty douche, but that would be a signal being sent.

But again, a lot of that goes to the constant set of mixed signals that are sent in this game. It is why its so important to be clear in these things, especially when you are dealing with sex because people's feeling of disgust which is pretty much involuntary can get set off pretty easy causing severe negative reactions, especially if they aren't prepped for it. And BB's history has been one of not either setting or not meeting set expectations and the fallout from that on this board at least. When you say that the romance signal about Lisa is fake, maybe it's just mincing words but I would say it was, early on, a real signal that was used unintentionally, and then later we got actual intentional signals that were then abandoned.

As far as the anal stuff. I was thinking, maybe it's the term romance that is throwing people off. I mean I'm not talking that they need to run off into the sunset together and have a happy ending and babies. I think most people who want romance would be happen with her being affectionate towards Max, him making her feel special, and them getting some decent one on one time that isn't just a dirty quickie in the kitchen. I mean Alice and Max have loads of one on one scenes, several of which include sex, and several of which are a fair sight more intimate than anything with Lisa, who again is signaled to be the lovey-dovey one.

Then again, maybe I'm just not going to see Anal as a problem when I have read decades of manga that basically move from literally raping a little sister until it develops into true love. No one is asking for that here, that's what ICSTOR is for.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

well said @Asphyx!
I still have hope for Ann.

If decides to do romance for Ann and not for Lisa I will be done. Just plain done.

Also to @DarkSilver in 0.12 it says you can go from the Lisa GF arc to the Olivia arc, what about the other way around?