Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

On point indeed. But I doubt you can make it sandbox anymore. DS would have to go back and restore cutted paths and I doubt that's doable at this point since whole early gameplay during which skills still mattered was connected to Eric. I would love to see that but I guess it's too late for that.

I agree. There were choices early in the game, but they didn't matter at all. Which from a certain point of view, is fine, from another point of view though, it's really annoying. Having content that no one will see in a game that is as grindy and boring game play wise as BB sucks, because no one really WANTS to replay it anyway. If the grind was less Russian, then maybe, as it is, I never replay the game because it is hours and hours of clicking on bullshit, over and over to get back to see a 1-3 minute non repeatable sex scene. Why bother?

BUT, because the choices are still in the game, and because the game makes you think at points that you have actual influence in what happens, and what routes you are on, when nothing comes of it, it still sucks. It's why some still pine for Eric's greasy embrace, it's why Lisa fans are still asshurt over the lack of romance, it's why anyone who is doing the Olivia route and ISN'T following the game closely is wondering why their updates have been short as shit for months. That last one, the Olivia choice is the final branch that looks be mixed in with the rest of the game. It was inevitable, and honestly necessary, but it's the last vestige of any actual player control or even the illusion of gameplay.

 

[Ignazzio]

I agree. There were choices early in the game, but they didn't matter at all. Which from a certain point of view, is fine, from another point of view though, it's really annoying. Having content that no one will see in a game that is as grindy and boring game play wise as BB sucks, because no one really WANTS to replay it anyway. If the grind was less Russian, then maybe, as it is, I never replay the game because it is hours and hours of clicking on bullshit, over and over to get back to see a 1-3 minute non repeatable sex scene. Why bother?

BUT, because the choices are still in the game, and because the game makes you think at points that you have actual influence in what happens, and what routes you are on, when nothing comes of it, it still sucks. It's why some still pine for Eric's greasy embrace, it's why Lisa fans are still asshurt over the lack of romance, it's why anyone who is doing the Olivia route and ISN'T following the game closely is wondering why their updates have been short as shit for months. That last one, the Olivia choice is the final branch that looks be mixed in with the rest of the game. It was inevitable, and honestly necessary, but it's the last vestige of any actual player control or even the illusion of gameplay.

Yeah, well, the only decisions player had were Eric's routes (friend/enemy) and Lisa's paths (plenty of dialog options in early days). All these choices were implemented early and they still exist even tho they lead nowhere. In my opinion that's one of the reasons why BB was so succesfull and is still doing well - early game still looks like what it was meant to be, giving some illusion of replayablity and decisions. Eric's friendly path was slaughtered and I doubt it will lead anywhere in a future so the most important decision we had doesn't exist. Lisa's paths will merge with Olivia's route so they will go as well. As much as I respect DS for programming skill and fine renders for me BB is the greatest example of terrible design right now and I have no real hopes for it. But that's an important lesson for him and other devs what can happen with gameplay if you change your whole design midway of development. I still hold an opinion that initial idea would sell better if it was polished during 0.4-0.5 and could reward different players in appriopriate way.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

Yeah, well, the only decisions player had were Eric's routes (friend/enemy) and Lisa's paths (plenty of dialog options in early days). All these choices were implemented early and they still exist even tho they lead nowhere. In my opinion that's one of the reasons why BB was so succesfull and is still doing well - early game still looks like what it was meant to be, giving some illusion of replayablity and decisions. Eric's friendly path was slaughtered and I doubt it will lead anywhere in a future so the most important decision we had doesn't exist. Lisa's paths will merge with Olivia's route so they will go as well. As much as I respect DS for programming skill and fine renders for me BB is the greatest example of terrible design right now and I have no real hopes for it. But that's an important lesson for him and other devs what can happen with gameplay if you change your whole design midway of development. I still hold an opinion that initial idea would sell better if it was polished during 0.4-0.5 and could reward different players in appriopriate way.

Yeah, but again, the Eric stuff was so badly implemented in general from almost the very beginning that being on Patreon where you have to keep your fans at least marginally happy, it was set up to fail. Had the Eric friend route given some Netorase oppotunities where there was actual quid pro quo, then that could have helped, or had Eric not been a goddamned super-god with the entire family falling under his sway unless you played PERFECTLY, then that could have helped too. I still say, had Eric been in the game from Day 1, as a step-dad/boyfriend, a lot of grief could have been avoided.

 

[xןʞ]

Yeah, but again, the Eric stuff was so badly implemented in general from almost the very beginning that being on Patreon where you have to keep your fans at least marginally happy, it was set up to fail. Had the Eric friend route given some Netorase oppotunities where there was actual quid pro quo, then that could have helped, or had Eric not been a goddamned super-god with the entire family falling under his sway unless you played PERFECTLY, then that could have helped too. I still say, had Eric been in the game from Day 1, as a step-dad/boyfriend, a lot of grief could have been avoided.

I mean a lot of it can just be summed up simply as darksilver ended up making an incest game after original plot plan was shit on by patrons, when dev obviously isn't into the idea of making an incest game.

It'd be like a game developer making an RPG when they hate RPGs.

 

[Ignazzio]

Yeah, but again, the Eric stuff was so badly implemented in general from almost the very beginning that being on Patreon where you have to keep your fans at least marginally happy, it was set up to fail. Had the Eric friend route given some Netorase oppotunities where there was actual quid pro quo, then that could have helped, or had Eric not been a goddamned super-god with the entire family falling under his sway unless you played PERFECTLY, then that could have helped too. I still say, had Eric been in the game from Day 1, as a step-dad/boyfriend, a lot of grief could have been avoided.

I think he was fine as he was and could be fixed easily with some clear events that could cut him off early and different values of relationship points for him and Max. Max should have it easier for the sake of gameplay. Ofc his route should have some benefits (he promised a bike so that could help outside of family) but It's hard to say about something that doesn't exist in a first place. 100% he was implemented poorly. I've played hundereds of VNs but that's the only one I know that has a route that won't be finished.

I mean a lot of it can just be summed up simply as darksilver ended up making an incest game after original plot plan was shit on by patrons, when dev obviously isn't into the idea of making an incest game.

It'd be like a game developer making an RPG when they hate RPGs.

Incest is a fine marketing tool. Or it was 1 year ago. Hard to judge anyone. DS gave up to pressure and BB now is an effect. Incest VN that pisses of incest fans with early Eric and mechanical relationships lacking of emotions and other people with destroyed premise of being a sandbox and competition. In my opinion if he didn't use incest setting everything would be much easier for him and players and he would achieve success as well since most people play games that look nice and feel complex and not any particular fetish.

 

[Catoblepas]

Sex education (0.12)
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I can summarize the text for each of these scenes:

"Max, shut the fuck up."

 

[zack1999]

Yeah, but again, the Eric stuff was so badly implemented in general from almost the very beginning that being on Patreon where you have to keep your fans at least marginally happy, it was set up to fail. Had the Eric friend route given some Netorase oppotunities where there was actual quid pro quo, then that could have helped, or had Eric not been a goddamned super-god with the entire family falling under his sway unless you played PERFECTLY, then that could have helped too. I still say, had Eric been in the game from Day 1, as a step-dad/boyfriend, a lot of grief could have been avoided.

and it would be as popular as it is today thats for sure as majority of people aren't into watching other people fuck your family or girlfriends unless you are mentally deranged

 

[elmandor]

I don't unserstand whats to point writing the same things over over and over again. You made your points 15-20 times before. Seriously get a life

 

[zack1999]

I think he was fine as he was and could be fixed easily with some clear events that could cut him off early and different values of relationship points for him and Max. Max should have it easier for the sake of gameplay. Ofc his route should have some benefits (he promised a bike so that could help outside of family) but It's hard to say about something that doesn't exist in a first place. 100% he was implemented poorly. I've played hundereds of VNs but that's the only one I know that has a route that won't be finished.

Incest is a fine marketing tool. Or it was 1 year ago. Hard to judge anyone. DS gave up to pressure and BB now is an effect. Incest VN that pisses of incest fans with early Eric and mechanical relationships lacking of emotions and other people with destroyed premise of being a sandbox and competition. In my opinion if he didn't use incest setting everything would be much easier for him and players and he would achieve success as well since most people play games that look nice and feel complex and not any particular fetish.

except your weird fetish of watching other people fuck.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

except your weird fetish of watching other people fuck.

Dude, quit being a dick. It's also a weird as fuck fetish to want to fuck a family member. Hell most of the fetishes on here are weird as fuck. We have dickgirls, guys turning into actual female bimbos, slime girls, demons, rape, MC tentacle monsters, mind control, torture, slave training, pegging and more in the games around here. All things considered a cucking fetish if that's what you wan't to call it, doesn't even enter into the top 10 of weird shit in these games.

You don't like it. I get that, I'm ambivalent to it myself. But calling out someone for liking what they like on a site dedicated to weird ass porn games? You're kinda missing the point.

 

[RazorX]

Dude, quit being a dick. It's also a weird as fuck fetish to want to fuck a family member. Hell most of the fetishes on here are weird as fuck. We have dickgirls, guys turning into actual female bimbos, slime girls, demons, rape, MC tentacle monsters, mind control, torture, slave training, pegging and more in the games around here. All things considered a cucking fetish if that's what you wan't to call it, doesn't even enter into the top 10 of weird shit in these games.

You don't like it. I get that, I'm ambivalent to it myself. But calling out someone for liking what they like on a site dedicated to weird ass porn games? You're kinda missing the point.

what do you mean its weird wanting to fuck a family member haha

 

[xןʞ]

Isn't watching other people fuck the entire definition of porn?

 

[Ignazzio]

except your weird fetish of watching other people fuck.

As far as I know that's your fetish as well cuz porn games and porn in general is watching other people fuck. Seems to be pretty standard

 

[Corambis]

Isn't watching other people fuck the entire definition of porn?

As far as I know that's your fetish as well cuz porn games and porn in general is watching other people fuck. Seems to be pretty standard

For me, I watch porn or play porn games not because I like to watch other people fuck, but because that's the best option available at the time. First choice of course would be to be able to have sex whenever I wanted. Second choice would be a virtual reality or holodeck type sex game where I'm the main character. But since I don't get nearly enough of the first, and we don't yet have the second, I have to settle for watching other people fuck. In games or porn videos I often try to imagine myself as the male character. That's really the only way it's erotic to me. Watching a guy and girl having sex is kind of meh. Imagining me as the one having sex with her is what gets me going.

 

[Ignazzio]

For me, I watch porn or play porn games not because I like to watch other people fuck, but because that's the best option available at the time. First choice of course would be to be able to have sex whenever I wanted. Second choice would be a virtual reality or holodeck type sex game where I'm the main character. But since I don't get nearly enough of the first, and we don't yet have the second, I have to settle for watching other people fuck. In games or porn videos I often try to imagine myself as the male character. That's really the only way it's erotic to me. Watching a guy and girl having sex is kind of meh. Imagining me as the one having sex with her is what gets me going.

Fair point. I was just mean. My argument was logical but your response counters it neatly. No argue with that

 

[gestved]

finally we get olivia back

 

[DarkSilver]

Unfortunally you're right after 0.8 we didn't get anything new with Kira (Besides her sleeping naked at the lounge which I must admit was VERY nice). And considering that she want to direct the family films I don't think she will take part on them anymore. Which is a shame since the first movie where she and Ann have sex is my personal favorite.



Yeah is kinda like @DarkSilver forgot that she is also a character and not just someone Max asks for help and tips ( Not that I mind her doing this ) and that most of her scenes aren't updated since the 0.3 update. Honestly if DS just made one repeatable solo sex scene I ( And the Kira Fan Club ) would been quite happy, knowing that she wasn't forgotten. And that shower scene with Alice is also in DIRE NEED of a update. Examples below.

Spoiler: Update or make more scenes like these.

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It was a poll some time ago and Kira lost it.

 

[DarkSilver]

@ninanieminen First and foremost, thx for the pic.

But i have to say this:

According to BB Patreon we have the following description to $20 pledges:
Pledge $20 or more per month!

All previous rewards
Access to >>>> hardcore scenes <<<< preview of future releases
Information how to unlock some hidden events
Fresh news about development and plans

And then we have THIS, hidden behind a $40 Paywall!?
I don't know what to think about this guy and his game anymore.

Good point, but a bit too much emotions

 

[Catoblepas]

...Second choice would be a virtual reality or holodeck type sex game where I'm the main character. But since I don't get nearly enough of the first, and we don't yet have the second, I have to settle for watching other people fuck.

Actually we do totally have that now.

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[Born2game]

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But who is really teaching who here? :evilsmile: