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Asphyx

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I'll take these points one by one despite the fact it will probably make for a long post...
You raise a good point, but venting your frustrations is going to make the dev less likely to take what you say seriously. I personally view romantic/intimate routes as more erotic then blackmail/desperation which are pretty meh to me. One of the only solaces I can get from the blackmail and manipulation stuff is if it eventually leads to a stronger emotional bond or intimacy/love. This reason is why for me personally, and for so many others, the dissolution of intimacy/romantic routes sucks so much.
I could care less about DS taking my advice or what he does to his own game...His listening or changing his game based on what I say isn't a big benefit to me but it could be of great benefit to himself and his profits. He is free to take my advice or not. I'm just giving my honest assessment of his creation in regards to his attempt at making the best incest game ever...best Blackmail Corruption game might be a better marketing line to use. Those folks will LOVE this game! And while yes there are many unoriginal Incest games out there who use Blackmail and Magic as a crutch to get to the incest by the release of V.2 of their game in the name of boosting patreonage quickly, it's a weak unimaginative storytelling tool and ignores the true thing that makes incestuous sex hot as a genre. The SEDUCTION of someone who should never give in to it because they are related, GIVING IN to that seduction and WANTING to have sex with that person willingly!

Take the vast majority of incest game out there, and you'll usually find intimacy and/or romance as either routes or outcomes of the blackmail, if not the main story itself. You have the other big ones, Summertime Saga, Dating My Daughter, and Dreams of Desire that illustrate that well. There's also a shit ton of smaller ones like Incest Story 1/2, MILFs Villa, Crusoe had it easy, Play with us, Daughter for Desert, A Zombie's Life and the list goes on and on. I can count less incest games without intimacy than I can count with it.
If you want to see the Incest Genre done right I suggest you try . It has the perfect mix of Seduction, Coercion and Romance that this game sorely lacks and breaks them out as different paths for each character in the game. You Seduce Mom, Coerce older Sister and the Younger Sister is using her brother as her guide and experimental partner for sexual exploration. It has everything we here have been asking for from DS and the MC doesn't have to act like an ass 99.9% of the time to get some sex!
These tricks like Magic and Blackmail are lazy shortcuts IMO and in most of those games once the sex has started they get back to the more romantic and consensual relations that the genre is about. So yes you use Magic to make Mom want to have sex with you but the fact is she still wants to have that sex once the spell is cast and not because she is poor and unwilling but needs money so she begrudgingly decides to make a porno with her son! With most of the blackmail tropes, she decides she likes the sex she didn't want to have. Lazy Bad Storytelling! But in the end it almost always leads to the place it should have gone from the beginning...The sex gets much more consensual and wanted after the ice has been broken when the best parts of most incest stories is the lead up to the sex and the breaking of the ice that starts the romance. Magic, leverage and Blackmail are lazy ice breakers.

Intimacy/romance is a big part of the incest genre and I hope DS will do his best to try to find a way to reimplement it, because if I'm being honest what he was doing before in the early game, specifically with the Lisa GF route, he was doing a fine job building up to it. This shows to me that DS absolutely has the ability to write and add intimacy to the late game if he puts forth the effort to come over his self-made limitations. It would truly be disheartening if he completely abandons such an important aspect of his game.
He has been pretty clear that he can not bring himself to make Incest romantic at all. Which is proof to me he doesn't understand the genre and the only reason why incest exists at all in this game is for the Marketing tags because INCEST SELLS!

To be honest, i don't understand why that bdsm-theme in big brother splits the people.
Perhaps because it isn't related to the Incest Genre at all? If he was advertising a BDSM game that included family members then no one could complain about the story as it is...
But this is supposed to be "The Best Incest Game Ever!"
Unfortunately it is more like the Best EVERY GENRE BUT INCEST game ever.
The Incest relations in this game are incidental to the acts being written into the story. He could make the characters all be roomates and the game wouldn't suffer in the least. It's like the Cameras...
yep they are there...But they don't really serve the story...
Sure they are related...But the story isn't about the conflict or coming closer together than a family really should.
It's about what conniving scheme, leverage or lie can I come up with this week to get some sex. Incest is about an emotional bond progressing past the point it normally does in a familial relation.
 
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Just continue to buttfuck lisa and get punished by alice. Mom will appear sooner or later.
 

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Wait... they listen? Didn't they learn anything from Youtube?
They didn't listen to us....
They listened to their bookkeeper who informed them of how much money they lost after everyone cancelled their Pledges due to the fact it was going to charge them more per pledge.

If they really need more money or are TRULY concerned with creators taking home a decent return then they should set a hard charge for the creator to use their service per month that will allow them to cover their infrastructure costs and stop taking commissions on sales.
 
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can i have a save i dont the option to fuck lisain kitchen
First off....There are separate threads for all of your requests....




That said just get Lisa's Mood up and the opportunity for Anal in the Kitchen comes back. That is if you have done all the anal training required.
 

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First time with this game. What do i want the base game? or the mod? How does the mod add or change to the base game?
I suggest start with the base game, and check the Walkthrough/help thread for mini guides to help you. Once you have completed the basic game you will have a better idea of which Mods you might want to get for added content. If you want the Money and/or mood cheating then grab the basic mod and put the .txt file in the same folder as the .exe file. Do NOT use any cheats other than limited money (try to stay below $500 until Eric is gone) and mood boosts, as other things might break the game.

Hope that helps. :)
 

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I'll take these points one by one despite the fact it will probably make for a long post...

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Sure they are related...But the story isn't about the conflict or coming closer together than a family really should.
It's about what conniving scheme, leverage or lie can I come up with this week to get some sex. Incest is about an emotional bond progressing past the point it normally does in a familial relation.
Well, maybe you are expecting from this game too much interpersonal feelings.
I simply see it as an porngame with related actors which are depraved and loose their inhibitions and will finally screw each other the whole time. That is what i expect. Yes i am a perverted lurker and i even would enjoy to see Kira or ann doing beastiality for a movie :)

I played a lot of games in this genre. I like DMD, SummertimeSaga, DoD. and some more. They all are different and good in their own kind. It doesn't matter to me, what content @DarkSilver will add in future, but i am looking forward to it, because it will be entertaining and he is doing a good job.
I only hope DS has a masterplan about coming content and won't drift away from it because of wishes form players. It's ok to listen to the fans but this should only affect minor matters. DS is the director of this game from beginning and should not give up his role.
 
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I suggest start with the base game, and check the Walkthrough/help thread for mini guides to help you. Once you have completed the basic game you will have a better idea of which Mods you might want to get for added content. If you want the Money and/or mood cheating then grab the basic mod and put the .txt file in the same folder as the .exe file. Do NOT use any cheats other than limited money (try to stay below $500 until Eric is gone) and mood boosts, as other things might break the game.

Hope that helps. :)
What do the other mods add? Does it change whole game or is just adding more content? Cause theres the seduction? and shopping spree
 

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What do the other mods add? Does it change whole game or is just adding more content? Cause theres the seduction? and shopping spree
I believe they add content. I have only tried the Seduction mod, and recommend you check each mods thread to see what they add/change for yourself as I really don't know much. The Basic and Updated mods give you a cheat menu on the in-game laptop, but that's it (and as said above you need to be careful what you change). As to using the content adding mods you should wait until you have tried the original in-modded game so you have an idea what you would like to try (and probably create a separate Folder/Download for modded play so you don't change/break your basic version).

Hope that helps.
 

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Now that you've had plenty of opportunities to play 0.11 it's time to choose whether you prefer thematic updates or not. Do you want to see future updates to be dedicated to a specific theme like 0.11 was all about Alice? Speak now or forever hold your piece :)

P.S. I'm already working on 0.12, so this poll won't affect it in any way. But if majority chooses thematic updates, then $40+ Patrons will get to decide 0.13's theme in a future poll. And if you choose the first option, everything will go back to the way it was in ye olden days.

1) I want traditional format, every version continues several storylines at once, but for a little bit.

2) I want thematic format, every version is focused around something specific.
So what is the last result for this poll? I hope we'll see tradiyional forman.
 

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Most ordinary looking woman in the game.
I actually find her pretty appealing. People familiar with my posts know that I'm fairly dead-set against adding more non-family members in this game. But now I kind of want to bang Olivia's mom. I just hope it doesn't take several updates to do so or isn't messed up by some new kink or something or too short of a scene.
 

Shiva0067

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I actually find her pretty appealing. People familiar with my posts know that I'm fairly dead-set against adding more non-family members in this game. But now I kind of want to bang Olivia's mom. I just hope it doesn't take several updates to do so or isn't messed up by some new kink or something or too short of a scene.
She is nice, and hopefully DS will treat her like I suggested for Eve (the Doctor). In this update we get an introduction and maybe a VERY basic story. Then over several more updates we will get SMALL expansions that add to her path without taking away from the main (important) stuff.

Just a thought. :)
 

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Dumb MF's after pushing the new content rules ran into customers saying FU.

An Etherum hash has a $.01 to $.03 transaction cost, and crypto is BLOWING up. sure picked a super stupid time to try and turn the screws.
 
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Asphyx

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Well, maybe you are expecting from this game too much interpersonal feelings.
I simply see it as an porngame with related actors which are depraved and loose their inhibitions and will finally screw each other the whole time. That is what i expect. Yes i am a perverted lurker and i even would enjoy to see Kira or ann doing beastiality for a movie :)

I played a lot of games in this genre. I like DMD, SummertimeSaga, DoD. and some more. They all are different and good in their own kind. It doesn't matter to me, what content @DarkSilver will add in future, but i am looking forward to it, because it will be entertaining and he is doing a good job.
I only hope DS has a masterplan about coming content and won't drift away from it because of wishes form players. It's ok to listen to the fans but this should only affect minor matters. DS is the director of this game from beginning and should not give up his role.
What I'm expecting is something that relates to the incest not just sex, blackmail and coercion. The fact these folks are related has no bearing on the sex or the story....
They are just the women that are around. Sex with them is no more emotionally or sexually deviant than it is for someone not related.
The fact they are called FAMILY serves nothing but the Tags he is allowed to put up on Patreon to sell his BDSM Corruption game!
 
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