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Putting aside Eric's implementation: Shouldn't antagonist's role is to be hated? More hatred - more emotions - more people buying a brand. It works like that in movies and mainstream games at least
 

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Putting aside Eric's implementation: Shouldn't antagonist's role is to be hated? More hatred - more emotions - more people buying a brand. It works like that in movies and mainstream games at least
You just want someone to lose to. It's all you ever talk about in threads...
That's not competition, thats barely even an antagonist. That is merely a plot device specifically designed to piss people off. (and kill games)
 

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Putting aside Eric's implementation: Shouldn't antagonist's role is to be hated? More hatred - more emotions - more people buying a brand. It works like that in movies and mainstream games at least
There are two types of hated.

Good villains you love to hate.

Bad villains make you hate the person who created them.
 

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Well you can mess up the date, and that will permanently end the quest line. You can mess up the party, and that will also permanently end the quest line. The Carol stuff cuts out all the first sexy shit you could do when you visit her to study for the project. I think there is other stuff too, but it's been months since I played that game in earnest. The last few updates have bored me to tears as they have been nothing but grinding to do home visits, which wasn't too bad the first few times I did it, now with 10 or so girls to grind. I can't be arsed to do it at all anymore.
I guess, but the party thing is one of those events where you really should save and try again if you fail. Unless it's your first ever game...

The date though, you have to be kind of stupid to mess that up, it's really not hard. But yeah I get your point. You 'can' fail so if you want to always get everything right and not have to either fail or reload then you'll want a walkthrough.

To be honest I would recommend a walkthrough anyway, not because of failing though, just because there is some stuff that unless you persevere grinding with no indication that your getting anywhere you can miss some cool stuff, and unless you're like me and explore a fuckton and try shit you can miss stuff too. MNL has probably the most content of any game in the popular games list with the exception of 'son of a bitch'. But it's not all thrown at you immediately.
 

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There are two types of hated.

Good villains you love to hate.

Bad villains make you hate the person who created them.
Fair definitions. Eric seems to be mixture of both. 600 pages about him and more recognition than MC but still some obvious mistakes during implementation. Interesting if it's possible to create as strongly despised character with female MC like in Glamour. That's one of those things DS seems to know how to write
 

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Fair definitions. Eric seems to be mixture of both. 600 pages about him and more recognition than MC but still some obvious mistakes during implementation. Interesting if it's possible to create as strongly despised character with female MC like in Glamour. That's one of those things DS seems to know how to write
Well DS surely miss to make a likeable evil character,someone like Tanya the Evil from Youjo Senki.
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Happy new year everyone.

Also, welcome to the monthly Eric debate/discussion/argument. :) Honestly I thought we might avoid it with the holidays, but I guess it wouldn't be BB if it didn't happen shortly before update time.

Well, with the teasers we've been given and the ability for re-using earlier Olivia images I think we probably will see a slightly larger than normal update. Yes the new image count wont be much different than others, but like I said there are a LOT from the earlier game that can probably be re-used in this.

The main thing I'm wondering about is the new movie. Will Max somehow get to go with the ladies and watch? Will we be shown things without Max for once? Will the renders we've seen just be put on the TV for extra 'Sexy' watching with Ann/Mom? Darn it I want time to move faster to see what's new. :)

Just some thoughts.
 

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Happy new year everyone.

Also, welcome to the monthly Eric debate/discussion/argument. :) Honestly I thought we might avoid it with the holidays, but I guess it wouldn't be BB if it didn't happen shortly before update time.

Well, with the teasers we've been given and the ability for re-using earlier Olivia images I think we probably will see a slightly larger than normal update. Yes the new image count wont be much different than others, but like I said there are a LOT from the earlier game that can probably be re-used in this.

The main thing I'm wondering about is the new movie. Will Max somehow get to go with the ladies and watch? Will we be shown things without Max for once? Will the renders we've seen just be put on the TV for extra 'Sexy' watching with Ann/Mom? Darn it I want time to move faster to see what's new. :)

Just some thoughts.
Actualy seems we wont see many old images with Olivia at least for 0.12.Maybe in 0.15 or whatever update is Olivia second episode.For 0.12 main path is maybe Olivia and Diana and not Olivia and Lisa.
 

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Actualy seems we wont see many old images with Olivia at least for 0.12.Maybe in 0.15 or whatever update is Olivia second episode.For 0.12 main path is maybe Olivia and Diana and not Olivia and Lisa.
Well, we have a lot of excuses for Lisa's involvement even without the BF, especially now that she has that voyeur fetish.
 

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"Godmoded fucking super obstacle" Is the correct terminology for what that cuntrag was...
Of he had added Eric with the complete path to getting rid of him available then he wouldn't have become the big issue he became...
But you had to wait two months to get rid of him because he hadn't coded it yet.
It's kind of an issue with all of the scenes DS does and why the last update was far more palatable because you got pretty much the entire plot point in one release.
 

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Happy New Year to all !

And do not take Lisa to the Family Business
While it WOULD be nice to keep Lisa separate from the Movies I have a feeling that she will get pulled in. Honestly I'd like to see something like the Photoshoot mod happen in the main game. It would allow the ability to keep Lisa separate from the Movies, we get sexy pics, AND Ann/Mom almost gets to protect her baby. Yes, Lisa will do things, BUT she hopefully wont sink as far as the others.

Just a thought.
 

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Of he had added Eric with the complete path to getting rid of him available then he wouldn't have become the big issue he became...
But you had to wait two months to get rid of him because he hadn't coded it yet.
It's kind of an issue with all of the scenes DS does and why the last update was far more palatable because you got pretty much the entire plot point in one release.
With eric around you had to literally avoid other content, there was no way to 'win' when he was there...
You get Alice lingerie, guess what? She models for eric.
You advance Lisa to sex-ed guess what, eric takes her. (although there was an option there to be fair)
You finally get a female that is genuinely interested in you, advance in her storyline and finally get to have sex, guess what? Eric blackmail rapes her, then she starts to like it.
Guess what you can have her back IF you also give eric Alice.
Guess what, after you sacrifice Alice Kira doesn't want to do anything anymore anyway.
You level up your stats, catch cuntrag actively pulling his little pud outside of Alices room, take a fucking PHOTOGRAPH of him stroking his mini-dick and show it to your mum, game over for eric right? Guess what... Well you know the fucking answer.

It wasn't about not having the complete storyline for eric at the time.
It was because EVERY interaction with him (or that he magically hijacked) was just beyond fucking godmoded super obstacle bullshit simply designed for you to fail at.
Long story short, DarkSilver wrote it to just fuck off everyone and take the piss, there's no other logical explanation.
 

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"Lisa will do things" - it's possible, but I hope not
"BUT she hopefully wont sink as far as the others" - it would be a small consolation, , but at least some
 
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