thjis1

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Actually I am not sure you can actually block him like that in 4.0. I think DS mentioned it in a post at some point. He was going to set it up that Eric's influence starts to become more difficult to stop the later in the game. I think that was right around the time Phantomsmile started becoming such a huge pain in his backside. Not sure on that, but if I am wrong...it feels like it has become more difficult. I also have asked for a little more information on the influence mechanic, I really am questioning how much it impacts the branches. Suspect other issues are driving the events as well, plus I am unclear on what domination does.
 

3xpurt

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I guess you have not run the right choices, he has already had Liza, there is no rendering of it. You will see all three of them in the mom's bedroom at times. Also you ask her about the sex lessons with Eric and she tells you that she is not allowed to talk to you about them and ask Eric. So not only does he get her, you don't see it and she will not tell you anything. Just to spike the ball. lol
The sex lessons are Lisa watching Mom and Eric have sex, just like Max did, not Lisa having sex with them. Pretty certain she tells you this at some point after you 'rescue' her from Eric's clutches.
 
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If Eric was too much of a pushover, then there wouldn't be a reason to see him as a threat. Max is the inexperienced one and this control of people is a new concept to him, which is shown in much of the dialogue. He's learning about this aspect from all the people around him and it wasn't until Eric's dominance that he had an idea. In my game, up until 4.0, he had only been with the Mom, which as Mom's boyfriend, makes sense, especially as at that point in the game Max had only been peeking. Eric had also seen the older sister naked, nothing else had happened except threats. 4.0 brought the Aunt into Eric's blackmail, but she's doing porn anyway, so it's not like she was saving herself for Max. However, it's possible (depending on routes), to limit what he does with your Aunt also, and completely block him from anyone but Mom. I suspect 5.0 will bring in a way to stop that. There is also this pill route, which apparently limits his abilities further, which I haven't seen yet.
Yes, I get that. But still the flow of the game is still bad. No matter how suave Eric is, alot of that is bs. But like I said i like the fight. But the payout is bad. I have also contricted Eric from the start. He has only sexed Mom, I manage to stop the Kira event. Kira has not been spoiled, and I have gone the pill route. So yeah Max have beaten Eric, somewhat. But the reward for doing this is does not reflect the effort. All Eric has done in my game is watching Alice in her underwear, and be with Ann. So it's not that I have failed in several events. It's just that Eric seem to breeze through everything. And even when Max gets the upperhand Eric still beats him somehow if you have missmanaged just the smallest. And sometimes even when you have done it perfectly. Still next version is do or die for me i think. And that is because not only might it be where Max can get rid of Eric. But I think it also introduces Alex, and some people on patreon says he will be your new nemesis. That he will now be the one to get with your family. But that is just speculations until we get som more info on that.
 
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thjis1

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It honestly makes me nausea just thinking about that turd fucking cute little Liza...utterly disgusting.

Same for me, she is actually the only character I like on any personal level. In fact, as Max I try not to mess with her grades more than I have to. I almost feel bad setting her up for the spanking. If I was in Max's shoes I would be willing to trade out the rest of the girls for Liza. She at least seems to actually like Max.
 
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thjis1

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The sex lessons are Lisa watching Mom and Eric have sex, just like Max did, not Lisa having sex with them. Pretty certain she tells you this at some point after you 'rescue' her from Eric's clutches.
Possible, I may of missed it, after having played so many versions I have gotten to the point that I fail to read most of the text. One of the reasons I hate how much it has started to be a grind. How many times do you want to see the same damn two choices at the dinner table or the same options on tan.
 

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Yes, I get that. But still the flow of the game is still bad. No matter how suave Eric is, alot of that is bs. But like I said i like the fight. But the payout is bad. I have also contricted Eric from the start. He has only sexed Mom, I manage to stop the Kira event. Kira has not been spoiled, and I have gone the pill route. So yeah Max have beaten Eric, somewhat. But the reward for doing this is does not reflect the effort. All Eric has done in my game is watching Alice in her underwear, and be with Ann. So it's not that I have failed in several events. It's just that Eric seem to breeze through everything. And even when Max gets the upperhand Eric still beats him somehow if you have missmanaged just the smallest. And sometimes even when you have done it perfectly. Still next version is do or die for me i think. And that is because not only might it be where Max can get rid of Eric. But I think it also introduces Alex, and some people on patreon says he will be your new nemesis. That he will now be the one to get with your family. But that is just speculations until we get som more info on that.
Thats the nature of most games where you have a 'choose your own adventure' type scenario. Even the non-adult games like this often have a very specific set of circumstances you need to follow to get the best ending. It's just in a game like this, people seem to get more invested in the characters, like it's personal.

There is indeed a lot of work to beat Eric, but that is his older age and experience compared to Max. Max is just starting out with dominating people, and Eric has obviously been doing it for a while. The fact that he is a more experienced enemy, makes defeating him at his own game all that more rewarding.

It seems you have done well compared to me, as I tried to befriend him, so I could take them back from him and learn in the process, but that seems to be the wrong way to do it currently. I'm going to have another go when I get a few hours spare.
 

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Wow, at least with how personal some comments are, the writing is on point :D

If Eric was too much of a pushover, then there wouldn't be a reason to see him as a threat. Max is the inexperienced one and this control of people is a new concept to him, which is shown in much of the dialogue. He's learning about this aspect from all the people around him and it wasn't until Eric's dominance that he had an idea. In my game, up until 4.0, he had only been with the Mom, which as Mom's boyfriend, makes sense, especially as at that point in the game Max had only been peeking. Eric had also seen the older sister naked, nothing else had happened except threats. 4.0 brought the Aunt into Eric's blackmail, but she's doing porn anyway, so it's not like she was saving herself for Max. However, it's possible (depending on routes), to limit what he does with your Aunt also, and completely block him from anyone but Mom. I suspect 5.0 will bring in a way to stop that. There is also this pill route, which apparently limits his abilities further, which I haven't seen yet.
I agree, the big thing here is the "super easy mode" Eric has, but if you can counter it completely in a later version, then no problem for me, I'd enjoy both the family NTR route and the non Eric route. :)
And meanwhile, I just wish for many more voyeur/sexy clothes before actual sex!
 

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Thats the nature of most games where you have a 'choose your own adventure' type scenario. Even the non-adult games like this often have a very specific set of circumstances you need to follow to get the best ending. It's just in a game like this, people seem to get more invested in the characters, like it's personal.

There is indeed a lot of work to beat Eric, but that is his older age and experience compared to Max. Max is just starting out with dominating people, and Eric has obviously been doing it for a while. The fact that he is a more experienced enemy, makes defeating him at his own game all that more rewarding.

It seems you have done well compared to me, as I tried to befriend him, so I could take them back from him and learn in the process, but that seems to be the wrong way to do it currently. I'm going to have another go when I get a few hours spare.
Yeah I do get that Eric has more experience. I just think some of the content could be handled differently. But yeah. Blood sweat and tears to do what I have done. :p It was painfull to get that. I just hope that 0.5 will finally turn it around, and no more NTR on the war with Eric route if you make the right choices. After 4 versions I'm done with that. So heres to wait another month. Good luck with your second round.
 

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It's funny to me because his Feedback Reaction post states he's trying to make an engaging story. "Where it at doe?" It's not engaging when you show Ann a picture of Eric beating his meat to Alice only for her to interrogate you for having a camera and punish YOU for some bullshit reasoning instead of confronting HIM, picture at hand for strangling his dick on the balcony.

It's not engaging when this stranger tells Ann how to manage her own children and she allows him to do this naked spanking punishment to her daughter behind closed doors, especially after Alice says "It's alright Max, Eric's punishments don't hurt." What?? Ann must be color blind to not see all these red flags. And don't get me started on Alice being a contradicting sellout.

They all look sexy, but the only good ones are Lisa and Kira. Lisa is too innocent not to love and Kira is ironically the smartest one out of them all despite being the most exotic about her sex life. She listens. She asks questions. She confirms. And her constant help has been great for Max.

I can go on and on with the issue of these females but this rant will end up being a full page in itself. So is this an engaging story? Hell no. It's dumbass females being so easily swayed by Eric's status in the span of a week. The images are just too good to stay away from this game. Plus it'll be euphoric to see Eric "GET TO STEPPIN" eventually. Lol, we have a guy staying at a home where no one knows anything about him other than his status. These fuckers living dangerously.
 

sherlockhomes

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I want to know the content of the poll as well. I'm kinda worry about DS is considering shutting down the Eric's route too early just because so many paterons feel bad about it. I think DS should stick with his original idea of the stories, and keep the game challenged and different to others.
Challenged and different? If this is his idea then game should be balanced and fair to both side. But it is not.
Max can gift only two lingerie two Alice in blog path and afterwards Max is forced to watch Alice+Eric shows. The reason given is, because Max doesn't have any money. Even if he had money, there was no way to buy them. This is not a fair play.[not to mention , sometimes Alice+Eric show begins before arrival of aunt Kira]
Max starts with relationship Good(2) and make efforts to improve it with characters.But the first time Eric appears in a game he starts with Very close(7) with mom. Its happens in less than a week after mom mention his name for the first time.Eric goes from Zero to Hero. Again, This is not a fair game.

He should consider suggestions from supporters and add his imaginations and skills to make those suggestions more effective and fun to play.If he tags his game as incest and instead continue to deliver NTR/BDSM content , surely he will loose support.
 
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Hi guys, I'm one of hater of this update (0.4).
I feel you, my heart get broken when one of my lovely girl get fucked by eric. that overwhelming feeling is taken me over past few days clicking on this games. i just click and waiting for kira to explain everything, and gives solution, but the solution is not that much to cover the heartbreaking scene. it just, well not fucking good, since it's only few hour, and only when eric is having diner in our house.
I begin to think negatively about this game, which are :
1. the creator seems to be gay (lol, ikr), but can you count how many pussy pic in this game compared to how many dick? if i remember it correctly, there are only 2 pussy pic (a bit more if you repeat kira photoshot).
2. desperation overload, since max can't really fight back. etc

well, after some thought on this version, i begin to belive that ds is really smartass or at least have really smart advisor under his bed.
this version is created not to make profit on how many $ he will get now, but this version is created to make profit on the next update. this version is expected to make big impact on ppl so discustion like this happen, push him forward on search engine and attract more ppl to try this because curiousity.
based on how this version reaction is, he absolutely win.

i won't make speculation about next update, but most likely eric will still be there.
sorry for this long stupid post. i cant help but sharing what in my head.
 

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Max starts with relationship Good(2) and make efforts to improve it with characters.But the first time Eric appears in a game he starts with Very close(7) with mom. Its happens in less than a week after mom mention his name for the first time.Eric goes from Zero to Hero. Again, This is not a fair game.
It makes sense when you consider that Eric is a dominant boss in position of power and Mom is a extreme submissive due to childhood trauma. That's why she's so easily manipulated by Eric. It's one of the actual plotlines of the story. In future updates you will probably have to make your mom stop seeing you as her son if you want to gain more power over her.

Hi guys, I'm one of hater of this update (0.4).
I feel you, my heart get broken when one of my lovely girl get fucked by eric. that overwhelming feeling is taken me over past few days clicking on this games. i just click and waiting for kira to explain everything, and gives solution, but the solution is not that much to cover the heartbreaking scene. it just, well not fucking good, since it's only few hour, and only when eric is having diner in our house.
I begin to think negatively about this game, which are :
1. the creator seems to be gay (lol, ikr), but can you count how many pussy pic in this game compared to how many dick? if i remember it correctly, there are only 2 pussy pic (a bit more if you repeat kira photoshot).
2. desperation overload, since max can't really fight back. etc


well, after some thought on this version, i begin to belive that ds is really smartass or at least have really smart advisor under his bed.
this version is created not to make profit on how many $ he will get now, but this version is created to make profit on the next update. this version is expected to make big impact on ppl so discustion like this happen, push him forward on search engine and attract more ppl to try this because curiousity.
based on how this version reaction is, he absolutely win.

i won't make speculation about next update, but most likely eric will still be there.
sorry for this long stupid post. i cant help but sharing what in my head.
It's obvious he's going to want to make as much money as possible while still delivering enough content to keep his patreons. The reason there's not that many PiV (Penis in Vagina sex scenes is because they are the end goal. It has nothing to do with DS's sexuality.
 

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Which option is correct with the younger sister when you choose the options that it should be done with her boyfriend? And what kind of relationship you need to have with Eric for the proper development of the plot?
 

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Which option is correct with the younger sister when you choose the options that it should be done with her boyfriend? And what kind of relationship you need to have with Eric for the proper development of the plot?
The befriend Olivia has the most content and war with Eric from the start as you don't have get Lisa back by blackmailing Eric.
 
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It makes sense when you consider that Eric is a dominant boss in position of power and Mom is a extreme submissive due to childhood trauma. That's why she's so easily manipulated by Eric. It's one of the actual plotlines of the story. In future updates you will probably have to make your mom stop seeing you as her son if you want to gain more power over her.
Well said man.
 

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I think it's quite funny to read how many "hate" Eric while at the same time they think of Max as the "good" guy.
Eric fucks the mother and Kira and wants to do the other ladies in the house. Just normal dominant male behavior.
And Max is such a nice guy. He would never do that.
Oh wait, he does. He wants to fuck his Mom, sisters and does his aunt. Mmm, that's not really normal behavior.

Don't get me wrong. I played 0.4 and reduced Eric to a crying limpdick, I take part in a threesome with my sister, get blown by my aunt and have mother naked under my hands.
This whole game is about who's the boss, eliminating rivals and jealousy.

So much people complaining about the game but look. 6 threads and this one has almost 100 pages.
Can't be that bad.
 
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