FirstEvil

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It fixes itself eventually. Game is fucking unbearable without cheating. Its still a massive grindfest with unlimited money. Got to spam wait for weeks to get to the next CG oasis, unsure if your run is bugged, if you missed something, if the content is not available, or wtf is going on. Game is a mess and needs a shit ton of organization and polish on the core "gameplay" mechanics..
And some people give money for that. I could play a Asian MMORPG, there the grinding is fun anyway.
 

SDaddy666

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there are more and more ppl posting stuff in this thread that doesn't belong here. Since it doesn't seem to be any moderation in here (and i understandthat) besides extreme cases and post lock-ups during release times, I really think we should stop responding to people asking for help or saves in this thread. This only encourages misposting i think.

Just my opinion

EDIT : I just scrolled back 2 pages and litterally HALF of the posts don't belong here. This is getting out of control...
 

Bass_Legend

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there are more and more ppl posting stuff in this thread that doesn't belong here. Since it doesn't seem to be any moderation in here (and i understandthat) besides extreme cases and post lock-ups during release times, I really think we should stop responding to people asking for help or saves in this thread. This only encourages misposting i think.

Just my opinion

EDIT : I just scrolled back 2 pages and litterally HALF of the posts don't belong here. This is getting out of control...

Dont belong here? I mean this is a discussion thread. Define "belonging in here"? Honestly I am probably going to do another playthrough when its finished, even though I hope there is something better besides unlimited money to get through the grind. Regardless, who are you to say who belongs where? We all played the content and came to the forum to discuss the content. I say we do belong here. Would you rather have this thread of an echo chamber of yes men?
 

AkitoH

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DS doesn't like incest? Did he go on record saying this? Lmao

I remember the old days when I was hype for the new updates. How fuckin ignorant of me.

Olivia "merge" - barely went anywhere...all of a sudden we taking it slow...wasn't this bitch a free spirit? I smell milk.
Vicky "romance" - not going anywhere. Her facial expression model still has the wrong hair.
Mom - Let me fuck you and stop playing these "foreplay" games.
Lisa - Give me your virginity and stop playing these anal games.
Alice - Let me fuck you on the couch and stop playing these oral games.
Kira - So I guess her progression just doesn't exist anymore, huh?
Kate - Go home. Stay home.
Kate's mom - So I guess her proposition to work for her is off the table, huh?
Nurse (Forgot her name) - I hope the Board of Health snatches your certificate.

Sex Scenes - Still feels like an HBO soft-core film narrated by Max's bitchass. I don't care for his constant virgin dialogue every time he gets sucked off. Shut his ass up.

I should make a "PornSins" account and count off every sin I find.

Sin Counter: 353
Verdict: Eric "Best Waifu"
 

Shiva0067

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Dont belong here? I mean this is a discussion thread. Define "belonging in here"? Honestly I am probably going to do another playthrough when its finished, even though I hope there is something better besides unlimited money to get through the grind. Regardless, who are you to say who belongs where? We all played the content and came to the forum to discuss the content. I say we do belong here. Would you rather have this thread of an echo chamber of yes men?
The issue is NOT the people belonging. The issue is that the rules say play through/help questions need to be in the help/play through thread. It would be the same issue if someone started posting Fan art here. it's the wrong place for that type of post. This is supposed to be general discussion, and other things like Play through, save requests and such have there own threads.

For the most part I don't mind the debates (sometimes they get to extreme for me), or the occasional questions that should be in another thread. the problem is that sometimes large numbers of posts end up here that should be placed in one of those other threads. Personally I tend to answer a few early posts and ALSO give direction to the appropriate threads. If a line of discussion goes into extremes or areas that I dislike, well, I tend to skip reading for a while.

Hope that helps.
 
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Bass_Legend

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The issue is NOT the people belonging. The issue is that the rules say play through/help questions need to be in the help/play through thread. It would be the same issue if someone started posting Fan art here. it's the wrong place for that type of post. This is supposed to be general discussion, and other things like Play through, save requests and such have there own threads.

For the most part I don't mind the debates (sometimes they get to extreme for me), or the occasional questions that should be in another thread. the problem is that sometimes large numbers of posts end up here that should be placed in one of those other threads. Personally I tend to answer a few early posts and ALSO give direction to the appropriate threads. If a line of discussion goes into extremes or areas that I dislike, well, I tend to skip reading for a while.

Hope that helps.

Well yeah that would take an active mod scan through everything, PM people and move save questions to the save thread, walkthrough questions to the walkthrough thread. /shruggs oh well.
 
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Its time! (0.13)
Hmm, is it just me or does anyone else think that picture is in Max and Lisa's room?? My guess is that Ann/Mom came in to wake Max because 'It's Time' for him to wake up and go to his new job, or maybe it's time he gets sent to military camp? Yep, we've had the build up and now 'It's Time' for the reward where we see lucky Max cleaning toilets. :)

Sorry, I HOPE this is a major shift with Ann/Mom and Max so we get some nice repeatable sex scenes. However I do think that looks like Max and Lisa's room.

Just a thought. :)
 
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Its time! (0.13)
OK,I have many decks ready to play some TCG and LCG.
If DS don't like incest the more decent thing he can do is to hire a writer, to make a good story for bb, after all he get allot of money from supporters that like incest and he have to give something back.
He didn't even need to hire someone.He can simply go and read some incest stories on literotica par example.
 

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Its time! (0.13)
For fuck sake!!! Finally!!! I thought it will never be happen. Don't wana even play 0.12 version because of nothing special or unusual. Going patiently wait for 0.13. Hope it going to be more pleasurable to play. The only thing that bothers me that we can gain only one sex scen in the end of next version. That would be sucks.
 

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Hmm, is it just me or does anyone else think that picture is in Max and Lisa's room?? My guess is that Ann/Mom came in to wake Max because 'It's Time' for him to wake up and go to his new job, or maybe it's time he gets sent to military camp? Yep, we've had the build up and now 'It's Time' for the reward where we see lucky Max cleaning toilets. :)

Sorry, I HOPE this is a major shift with Ann/Mom and Max so we get some nice repeatable sex scenes. However I do think that looks like Max and Lisa's room.

Just a thought. :)
It doesn't looks like Max/Lisa room. There is no posters on the walls. Guess it will be reward for ass massage in Ann room
 

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This is going to be long so apologies and if the Mods want to spoiler it let me know I will be happy to do so.

He doesn’t like incest. He said that almost one year ago, so you are right.
Well he didn't actually say he doesn't like it, More like he doesn't GET it, but from that you can extrapolate that the genre doesn't turn him on at all. His thoughts about the subject seem to be it's a sick perversion that can only happen as a product of abuse or mental illness. Which is kind of counterproductive to producing a game meant to titillate those who ARE into the Genre and GET IT! Unless of course they are turned on by the abuse aspect of it. And if that is the case it really doesn't matter to them if it is a family member or not because it is the ABUSE they like and it could be abusing anyone to get the same kick!

not getting incest is nothing to be ashamed about.actually he tried to create a unique incest story but people didnt like the direction and the storylines got BUTCHERED imo.olivia kira eric all dead storylines or messed up with no certain direction.
He tried to create what he thought an incest story was, which was watching as someone else fucked your family, and maybe you got their sloppy seconds.

There's no shame in not liking or understanding incest. But at the same time, if you're saying you're making an incest game, at least try to make one.
This is probably the best description of what happened I have seen yet! My guess is he thought outsiders would be the door openers to Max having incestuous relations. Perhaps eventually a Threesome with Eric and Mom, We GOT the Threesome with Alice and Kate, And even the Threesome with Kira and Lisa. To get over the hurdle of Kira and Ann sleeping together he created the Movie excuse to replace what he lost with Eric's demise.

And no one should fault him for his opinion, beliefs or lack of understanding regarding the Genre...But we do fault him for choosing a topic he doesn't get or understand simply because it meant the most money generating marketing sense.

I don't think it has much to do with 'not getting incest'. I'm fairly sure Icstor gets incest, and his stuff has plenty of coercive/ouright rapey/let's just fuck stuff, see Milf's Villa for example.
Sure many games run to that to get to the sex quickly.
But the Incest Genre is a lot more than just that! And the folks who are actually into the genre are in it more than just the idea of fucking a family member. It is the road GETTING THERE that is as hot and titillating as the actual sex itself. This game has none of that!
What has happened with this game is similar to saying you are creating a Romance novel but the romance consists of blackmailing the people you desire until they are convinced they actually like doing what they would never have done before you blackmailed them.
Honestly this game would have been so much better if the rest of the family were the perpetrators, blackmailing and tricking Max into sleeping with them! At least then you as the MC wouldn't feel so awful about your actions to the point you feel like you need to take a shower to wash the assholiness off of you.

Incest fetish imo is romance with a forbidden fruit angle. You have unconditional love and then you throw in some physical intimacy. Not that hard to get. There are a few different angles though, such as the slutty older sister who is a webcam girl. The virgin younger sister. The pornstar aunt, ect. He at least got the concepts right. It all went to shit from the start from the unbearable grind, the beta personality MC and ALL eric content of course.
THIS!
Those who enjoy the Incest Genre like the intrigue, the pursuit, the gamesmanship, and the idea and delicate dance of seducing someone who should be immune to that seduction because of the taboo nature of the relation.
A seduction so good they can't resist themselves even when they know it is wrong to give into it!

What makes the genre exciting and what people into it are most moved by how hot and exciting the idea of being able to get a sexual Partner that is seemingly impossible to get and get them to fuck you WILLINGLY!

There is nothing wrong with having a single character be seduced by Blackmail and coercion, But not EVERY Character as is the case here. The good games who get the genre usually try and incorporate all the various tricks and tropes that go cross genre to get to the conquest. Experimental siblings, Concerned parent who realizes their kid is becoming sexually aware and focusing on them, and yes even some of the ideas about incest DS does have such as Lonely relative who is just so desperate and sexually frustrated that they turn to a family member to give them what they need. If just one character in the game was not gotten by blackmail this game story might not be so bad. Kira is the perfect character to get to the Incest sex early which is the one thing he got right here.
If he had waited on Eric until Kira got you some sex with Mom then the Eric thing COULD have actually been an NTR angle to add some flavor to this game. Make him a little less Omnipotent and eventually have his relationship with Mom end because she likes having sex with you more than him would have been a much better track to take!

In the end...If you are going to write and create an Incest game you had better know and understand the subject you are writing about. Yes Incest is defined as Sex with Family but a SEX GAME should not be only about the TECHNICAL definition. It should be about what the Genre itself is about and that is HAPPY incest not the abusive kind that DS and some of the Ericas think all Incest is the product of.

The story needs to be about things that turn on those who are into the Genre not just what people outside that group think incest is about. Afterall making an incest genre game is targeted at those who LIKE the genre.

And it is clear that DS doesn't LIKE it the way we folks who do like the genre do. He is writing what he knows but the problem is he doesn't KNOW what the people into the genre like about it. It simply doesn't compute with him.

This is why they tell Authors to Write what you know...
DS doesn't know the Incest Genre but he does seem to understand and find inspiration from the BDSM genre...
Which means he should focus his efforts on making a game in that Genre and finish off this failed incest game and move on. Lesson learned on his part and possibly he will read up on the Genre via reading the many stories that are out there that do not include any BAD behavior to make the sex happen and he can try again later on once he learns about the topic he chose to make a game about.

The guy has Game coding skills...He needs to work on Story or at least focus his attention on stories that he can relate to and get turned on by so that he can write one that can turn on others.
Incest doesn't turn him on and it is impossible (he says it is hard) to write something that those in the genre think is sexually stimulating.
I don't fault him for that but he should just finish off this game, call it a lesson learned and move onto a Genre he does get, understand and can make hot to the people who are into the genre he is writing about.
 
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