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Unironically, yes, that's exactly what that means. You should see some of the stuff that's out there. Goats aren't the half of it.


^ Haven't read it and don't intend to, not my bag, but if it's what it looks like then yep, that's a romance novel.
Not to anyone who is a fan of romance novels it isn't!
Just FALSE ADVERTISING!
People into romance novels aren't buying that book and enjoying it...
people into fucking animals are!
 

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To everyone getting excited over the Ann preview....Calm tf down. This is BB and DS we're talking about. Those previews can very easily be misleading as all hell. It's the common narrative of the last few versions. Don't fall for the same trap until it's clear we're getting some action.
 
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Not to anyone who is a fan of romance novels it isn't!
Just FALSE ADVERTISING!
People into romance novels aren't buying that book and enjoying it...
people into fucking animals are!
People who are into both are (apparently) buying it. People can like more than one thing and can enjoy combining them.
 

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What would improve this game dramatically for me is a rework to lessen the grind. There is something majorly wrong when you have cheat codes and still feel the weight of a soulcrushing grind, spending 3-4 hours playing click simulator for an hour of content.
 
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What would improve this game dramatically for me is a rework to lessen the grind. There is something majorly wrong when you have cheat codes and still feel the weight of a soulcrushing grind, spending 3-4 hours playing click simulator for an hour of content.
The problem is the mid-stream transition from semi-sandbox to VN, imo. The game's mechanics are still geared for sandbox play, and DS hasn't adjusted the content distribution. That said, it was always the case that playing an update on an old save left a lot of 'empty space' and maybe it's not so bad on a new game playthrough. It is pretty aggravating, though.
 
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People who are into both are (apparently) buying it. People can like more than one thing and can enjoy combining them.

You cannot romance an animal because an animal is a creature of instinct. They dont think or make critical decisions, they just act. If you want to romance an animal, you just bend over. If they accept you its because it was within their nature, if they reject you its because it was within their nature. If your going for the penetration, then you just stick it in. They will probably flip the fuck out and not know whats happening, because they are animals.

Now a women cannot be with a TREX. He wants to eat her and his cock is far to massive. If the story is a women with a giant dinosaur, trust me it exists for the SHOCK factor.
 

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What would improve this game dramatically for me is a rework to lessen the grind. There is something majorly wrong when you have cheat codes and still feel the weight of a soulcrushing grind, spending 3-4 hours playing click simulator for an hour of content.
An hour of content that's been the same bullshit in different rooms for the past 4 to 5 versions at that.
 
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You cannot romance an animal because an animal is a creature of instinct.
I mean, dude, you cannot get magic mind-control powers from a group of PVC-skinned interdimensional beings either, but Dreams of Desire doesn't seem to care, you know? It's fiction, you can do things in fiction you can't do elsewhere. Is Twilight not romance because vampires aren't real?
 
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The problem is the mid-stream transition from semi-sandbox to VN, imo. The game's mechanics are still geared for sandbox play, and DS hasn't adjusted the content distribution. That said, it was always the case that playing an update on an old save left a lot of 'empty space' and maybe it's not so bad on a new game playthrough. It is pretty aggravating, though.

I just did a fresh playthrough its fucking terrible. You wander around aimlessly and one misclick you have to wait another entire ingame week to progress the story arc. It needs to be way more organized and there needs to be an end day button or something. For example sometimes the arc will require you to talk to a specific character on a specific day at a specific time. And it wont even mention it in the opportunities guide. Good luck trying to dig through the walkthrough to figure out where the fuck you are and where you need to go.

Game needs a lot of help for MANY reasons. Good things it has going for it are artwork and tons of content, but really its not worth it. For me the thought of another playthrough to get the lisa gf route which actually has more progression and planned more progression instead of the lisa/oliva gf route crushes my soul. I am not going to sit here for an entire day playing click simulator on some fucked kids idea of what a good incest game is. ....Never again.....
 
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I mean, dude, you cannot get magic mind-control powers from a group of PVC-skinned interdimensional beings either, but Dreams of Desire doesn't seem to care, you know? It's fiction, you can do things in fiction you can't do elsewhere. Is Twilight not romance because vampires aren't real?
Twilight actually managed to be a better love story than Big Brother. That's crazy to me.
 
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I mean, dude, you cannot get magic mind-control powers from a group of PVC-skinned interdimensional beings either, but Dreams of Desire doesn't seem to care, you know? It's fiction, you can do things in fiction you can't do elsewhere. Is Twilight not romance because vampires aren't real?
Well there is suspension of disbelief. In twilight, vampires are real. If farting rainbow unicorns showed up in twilight it would be bad writing, because they dont exist in that universe.

In dating a dinosaur, the dinosaur is still a dinosaur and is only banging you because its within its nature. He will probably eat you afterwards because its within its nature.
 

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...What appeals to me about the genre is that there is no question whatsoever whether the two characters love each other. Unconditional love does exist, I have it for each of my family members. I don't try anything with them because this is just a fantasy... but anyways you have the unconditional love in play and then you just mix in natural lusts and hormones. Its a recipe for a long lasting romantic relationship. So regardless of what happens there is that bond to fall back on.
The thing about Incest is the fact you already HAVE a love and bond with the family member...So it isn't about falling in love it is about changing the nature of that love to be sexual and more than it currently is. And that is a PERFECT challenge to use as a game mechanism! Incest Genre is mostly an adventure and the sex is nothing more than a climax to the actual story of the pursuit.

In most (Good) Incest stories the actual sex doesn't happen until the very end. The majority of the story is about the game of hinting, reading hints, getting into a situation where the sex could and does eventually happen.
Some Examples:
  1. Peeping on a relative and getting caught leading to a discussion of sexual urges and needing to satisfy them.
  2. Stealing underwear and being confronted.
  3. Being teased by a family member who seems sexually interested in you and finding a way to confirm your suspicion.
  4. Finding out a secret that they are turned on by the idea they would never consider sharing and convincing them that it is ok to explore those fantasies for real.
  5. Sexual Education and discussion (Lisa path but would be good if Max was getting trained as well)
  6. And yes Sexual Frustration (seen this update)
  7. Blackmail (pretty much the entire game so far)
  8. Drunkedness (Alice in the Bathroom after clubbing)
  9. and Force




So many ways to get there but this game only uses one method. Extortion or Force!
You blackmail your sisters to see their tits.
Your older sister is FORCED to first blow you by her Girlfriend and then you are both FORCED to fuck so you can get rid of Eric.
Your Mom is FORCED to do Porn with you because she needs money.

The only two women you don't have to FORCE into Sex is Kira which is a one time fuck and a repeatable Olivia on a path that is going nowhere and will never make sense with the story he just told in this release.
There is far more for BDSM fans here than there is for Incest fans.
 
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Well there is suspension of disbelief. In twilight, vampires are real. If farting rainbow unicorns showed up in twilight it would be bad writing, because they dont exist in that universe.

In dating a dinosaur, the dinosaur is still a dinosaur and is only banging you because its within its nature. He will probably eat you afterwards because its within its nature.
It sure can't be a romance novel since there is no way the animal can convey any romantic feelings...It's an Animal unless this is a talking T-Rex which would just make it even more ridiculous than it already sounds.
 

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People who are into both are (apparently) buying it. People can like more than one thing and can enjoy combining them.
That is pure supposition on your part...You have no idea what the buyers of that book think!
I mean, dude, you cannot get magic mind-control powers from a group of PVC-skinned interdimensional beings either, but Dreams of Desire doesn't seem to care, you know? It's fiction, you can do things in fiction you can't do elsewhere. Is Twilight not romance because vampires aren't real?
At least with the magic the magic made them WANT to have sex...Wasn't that they had it against their will!
You don't see those magically seduced characters complaining throughout the scene while you are fucking them because they would rather be doing anything other than fucking you!
 

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It needs to be way more organized
That's precisely it. It's not organized. Whatsoever. Story wise and concept wise.

He's built an over abundance of "opportunities" that he now has to merge because he can't balance them all. He's cancelled the Eric ones, which now just take up space, and hasn't done anything about others since version 5 or so. He's basically allowed these polls to dictate the way he lives his life at this point. And each scenario feels too far apart to where you're just clicking through endless bullshit to only end up blueballed or end up with the same repetition of events you've seen over and over again in different ways.

(Ex: Sex Ed with Ann is basically the same thing every time. Lisa taunts Ann. Ann is shocked. Max feels good and inner monologues about it. Ann suspects Max. Max plays dumb. Rinse, repeat)

There's no organization and introducing more characters, like he's been doing the past few versions, ain't helping that issue at all.
 
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In dating a dinosaur, the dinosaur is still a dinosaur and is only banging you because its within its nature. He will probably eat you afterwards because its within its nature.
I haven't read it, so I don't know if this is true or not. But it's not necessarily true. There's a wealth of children's literature featuring highly anthropomorphised animals, and of course there's furries, whose tastes range from 'glued-on tail' to 'talking animal'. I just don't get your position here.

It sure can't be a romance novel since there is no way the animal can convey any romantic feelings...It's an Animal unless this is a talking T-Rex which would just make it even more ridiculous than it already sounds.
I'll cheerfully concede that it's ridiculous, but every romance novel I've ever read (which I'll admit is like, two) has been completely pants-on-head bonkers, so I don't really see your point.
 

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That is pure supposition on your part...You have no idea what the buyers of that book think!
I think they want to read about someone fucking a T-Rex. And I mean, in case you think that's a one-off novelty, there's an that's 100% about and romance with various kinds of dinosaur, and even some . If you want to tell me it's ridiculous, I'm not going to argue, but that just goes to my point: There are people who like things you don't like, and they aren't making a mistake in doing so.
 
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I haven't read it, so I don't know if this is true or not. But it's not necessarily true. There's a wealth of children's literature featuring highly anthropomorphised animals, and of course there's furries, whose tastes range from 'glued-on tail' to 'talking animal'. I just don't get your position here.



I'll cheerfully concede that it's ridiculous, but every romance novel I've ever read (which I'll admit is like, two) has been completely pants-on-head bonkers, so I don't really see your point.
You can also call a donkey a horse like Don Quixote...
That doesn't mean it really is a horse!
Words have MEANING in this world!
Concepts have precepts.
Sure you can go off them and mislabel them but you will be lying as a result!
 

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I think they want to read about someone fucking a T-Rex. And I mean, in case you think that's a one-off novelty, there's an that's 100% about and romance with various kinds of dinosaur, and even some . If you want to tell me it's ridiculous, I'm not going to argue, but that just goes to my point: There are people who like things you don't like, and they aren't making a mistake in doing so.
Right they are DRAWN to the BEASTIALITY....Not the Romance!
It is a beastiality book written to look like a romance novel but there is no romance from the animal!
In a REAL romance novel there is romance from BOTH parties not just one!
 

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There's no organization and introducing more characters, like he's been doing the past few versions, ain't helping that issue at all.

Smells like a milking attempt to me. Why the fuck introduce new characters when its an incest genre and you have all these storylines to flesh out???
 
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