The game had a lot of potential in the beginning, and I thought it was the greatest game back then. It wasn't so much because of what had happened so far as the groundwork it seemed to be laying, and what I imagined happening in the future. Then Eric came along and changed everything. Even when he was gone, DS didn't try to make things the way they were. He kept changing things, instead of going back to when the game had been it's best, even if there was little sex then. If he could have gone back and made the current game an extension of what it had been in pre-Eric times, he would have had a legitimate shot at the title of Incest Game of a Lifetime. We could be carrying on a romantic, passionate affair with Lisa. We could be having sex with Ann, taking care of her sexual and financial needs. We could be hate-fucking Alice as she grudgingly realizes she loves her little brother's cock.I strongly agree...that's the main dilemma of this game. I think till 0.4-0.5 (and with every preview until now) the game build up some kind of structure which could have led to secret intimacy, romance or affairs. But instead we got blackmail, trickery and abuse... Pretty much every sexual scene is under premise that either you (the MC) or another is blackmailing. Other scenes are "hidden" behind BDSM or porn movies...
You want to know which scenes i like the most?...The very first bath scene with mom, where MC jerks off...This fits to an incest game. Or MC putting sunoil on Alice. Or the very first time, when Alice arrives from the club and shows you a sideboob. There isn't even Sex. Not even a HJ. But at least they make sense. That's how a MC in an incest game should act and the anticipation is good.. Now we've sex scenes with absolute zero lust and anticipation. Mom jerks you off? Wow...how comes? Ah i forgot...carpal tunnel....how exciting. You fuck the most sexy char of the game, your aunt? How comes? Ah...porn movie...wow...and so on.
The problem is you don't really have any facts to present...Just excuses and claims that WE INCEST FOLK do not understand....When the truth is we understand and he has even admitted that DS doesn't get Incest, doesn't know how to write that story and how writing a story that is MORE than just BDSM is HARD or DIFFICULT for him.Alright mate, I'm just gonna dip from this argument. It's not worth my time. I did try and debate you but honestly you seem to confuse opinions with facts on too many occasions.
Typical of all MONEY GRABS!Not to mention how many copies realy crappy games sells especialy license games like TMNT,Transformes and all movies and animations you can imagine.Don't forget about EA and how they release games and makes tones of money and other developpers that despite making more than good games sells poorly.
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It all comes down to a lack of vision for where to go when he started....I strongly agree...that's the main dilemma of this game. I think till 0.4-0.5 (and with every preview until now) the game build up some kind of structure which could have led to secret intimacy, romance or affairs. But instead we got blackmail, trickery and abuse... Pretty much every sexual scene is under premise that either you (the MC) or another is blackmailing. Other scenes are "hidden" behind BDSM or porn movies...
You will be surprise how many people actualy forget that they even support DS.I saw game that is already a full year without new update and still makes 100$.The problem is you don't really have any facts to present...Just excuses and claims that WE INCEST FOLK do not understand....When the truth is we understand and he has even admitted that DS doesn't get Incest, doesn't know how to write that story and how writing a story that is MORE than just BDSM is HARD or DIFFICULT for him.
You keep trying to sell BDSM as a great way to have incest....But NOOOOOOOO! It is not it is called ABUSE and those who love Incest love it for reasons OTHER than just sex with family by any (and only one as far as this game is concerned) means necessary!
Typical of all MONEY GRABS!
Pick a subject that is popular even if you don't understand WHY it is popular....
Make a product without any regard for the cannon or tropes o the subject and hope no one realizes it until after they put their money into our pocket and can't get it back!
You wind up with a product that really has nothing to do with the subject because you totally misunderstood the subject or knew nothing about it other than "IT SELLS, IT's POPULAR!"
It all comes down to a lack of vision for where to go when he started....
His plan was to go slow and start with peeping, hence cameras, peeking in windows etc....
Eric himself was a way of inserting SOME sex scenes to peep on into the story in an attempt to delay the MC fuck fest that was to come later. But then he made the mistake of trying to use Eric as a vehicle for peeping on Alice and eventually Lisa (with the training). That is why Eric is the way he is. And that is why people immediately railed against the character and his omnipotent hoarding of all the women.
If he had even just left Eric with Mom, Introduced the impotence pills and for getting caught peeping on Alice, Mother decided to punish Eric by fucking her son in front of her to give her what Eric wasn't able to give her due to your pill slipping. it could have been a much better and more erotic story! And would have made all that peeping that came before make some sense.
This game had promise which is why it became popular so quickly.
But he blew it because of his mental blockade and lack of knowledge of what makes an Incest scene hot or how to make it happen other than via dubious and forceful means.
And therein lies the failure of this game as a CREATIVE ART even if you think the money it made makes it a success!
All that really says is there are a lot of stupid people who either buy this game because they LIKE BDSM and don't care what it was supposed to be, Forgot to cancel their patreonage because money is not an issue for them, or simply keep holding out hope that DS will fix it at some point which is NEVER going to happen now that he has a new game to develop to keep the money flowing.
Doesn't surprise me in the least! In fact when Patreon sent out emails that they were going to add surcharges to the pledges I went back to my account to remove my support and found a few games I was still supporting I forgot about and were completed and abandoned.You will be surprise how many people actualy forget that they even support DS.I saw game that is already a full year without new update and still makes 100$.
Alice's story progression unbalanced things. She got too powerful as she's involved in everything now. That and Eric messed things up along the way.The game had a lot of potential in the beginning, and I thought it was the greatest game back then. It wasn't so much because of what had happened so far as the groundwork it seemed to be laying, and what I imagined happening in the future. Then Eric came along and changed everything. Even when he was gone, DS didn't try to make things the way they were. He kept changing things, instead of going back to when the game had been it's best, even if there was little sex then. If he could have gone back and made the current game an extension of what it had been in pre-Eric times, he would have had a legitimate shot at the title of Incest Game of a Lifetime. We could be carrying on a romantic, passionate affair with Lisa. We could be having sex with Ann, taking care of her sexual and financial needs. We could be hate-fucking Alice as she grudgingly realizes she loves her little brother's cock.
Instead, we have the game as it is. The game people love to hate, and that they bond over their shared disbelief over how it went wrong. It's a game that doesn't have any real direction, and goes on without any real animating force, ultimately as empty as the characters in it have become. Like them, it's very pretty to look at. But there's nothing there when you look inside.
I agree with everything you said here and I want to add that it is still a great game but it is very disappointing the way its going.Alice's story progression unbalanced things. She got too powerful as she's involved in everything now. That and Eric messed things up along the way.
It would be fun to have the two sisters together at some point but so far it's been underwhelming. Lisa's progression was impacted as well. I really like the concept of the younger one turning out to be the most enthusiastic about sex but I would've preferred that she followed the MC's guidance rather than Alice's.
I like the sex ed stuff well enough but I'd also prefer if things with Ann remained a secret from everyone else.
All that being said, I still don't get the huge amount of hate this game inspires on people. If a game frustrates me this much (e.g. The Tyrant), I simply drop it and forget all about it.
Kinda off-topic but do people here also read sex/incest stories? I ask because this game kinda reminded be of a few ones by Bluedragon.
Alice became the girl that DS focused on as the one to relieve all of the pent up sexual frustration in the game. It really should have been Olivia or some non-family member who had been introduced early in the game. It just ended up cheapening the character and resulted in a lot of forced and awkward interactions.Alice's story progression unbalanced things. She got too powerful as she's involved in everything now. That and Eric messed things up along the way.
It would be fun to have the two sisters together at some point but so far it's been underwhelming. Lisa's progression was impacted as well. I really like the concept of the younger one turning out to be the most enthusiastic about sex but I would've preferred that she followed the MC's guidance rather than Alice's.
I like the sex ed stuff well enough but I'd also prefer if things with Ann remained a secret from everyone else.
All that being said, I still don't get the huge amount of hate this game inspires on people. If a game frustrates me this much (e.g. The Tyrant), I simply drop it and forget all about it.
Kinda off-topic but do people here also read sex/incest stories? I ask because this game kinda reminded be of a few ones by Bluedragon.
so what cheats work and not f up the game
Sorry we can not answer gameplay question here but we can over here:Would like to ask for Help iam lost iam trying for like 3 hour and i cant trigger the following:
“I think someone deserves a punishment…”
anything else before i could do last thing was the special exercise.
only thing i can do is do her homework wrong than pay mom 500 bucks and at diner i can do the spanking but i cant choose to punish her after diner in my/our room i tried like weeks (ingame) and i cant trigger it (and yes i read the walkthru and did all fine there untill that point)
would really like some help getting crazy and kinda furious right now thanks guys
is it going to be like the mental breakdown you already had that made you think this was a great incest game and how BDSM is all about Incest if only us Incest fans UNDERSTOOD how BDSM is really what it takes to make the BEST INCEST GAME EVER?Hahahahahahahaha, mental breakdown imminent.
is it going to be like the mental breakdown you already had that made you think this was a great incest game and how BDSM is all about Incest if only us Incest fans UNDERSTOOD how BDSM is really what it takes to make the BEST INCEST GAME EVER?
Or it it more like the one that once said you were bowing out but forgot and replied to me anyway?
Yes and the bullshit with Alice can take a kick in the ass if it was up to me.I noticed the move towards a lot more 3ways. Is it just me? okerFace:
She just wanted to take his virginity is all and in the movie she was just getting mom into her line of business nothing more nothing less.Does anyone think we'll get more Kira story? It's been like 6-7 updates since we actually got anything from her. She was my favourite character for a while since she actually wanted to fuck Max, not just for her own gain. In my opinion she actually sorta took over Eric's role of being the one that got you in with the family (just in a really shitty way).
yes it would be nice to see and hopefully in the near future it would come to an endShe just wanted to take his virginity is all and in the movie she was just getting mom into her line of business nothing more nothing less.
Otherwise they would fuck every Saturday while the rest of them went shopping.
I don't really care about Kira or mom as long as I get Lisa I am happy but the bullshit with Alice needs to stop, I rather have the option to tell her to go fuck off and be sent to camp than go through that stupid shit.
My point exactly! They really don't! They are each their own separate genre and have their own tropes for stimulation.All ready then...you say ( only us Incest fans UNDERSTOOD how BDSM is really what it takes to make the BEST INCEST GAME EVER? ) really how does BDSM and Incest mix...either way to each is own
Maybe that's how the game ends. You finally grow a pair of balls and tell her to fuck off. Since you're banging mum on a daily basis you're in her good books and Alice gets sent to camp. We can only hopeShe just wanted to take his virginity is all and in the movie she was just getting mom into her line of business nothing more nothing less.
Otherwise they would fuck every Saturday while the rest of them went shopping.
I don't really care about Kira or mom as long as I get Lisa I am happy but the bullshit with Alice needs to stop, I rather have the option to tell her to go fuck off and be sent to camp than go through that stupid shit.