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Maybe that's how the game ends. You finally grow a pair of balls and tell her to fuck off. Since you're banging mum on a daily basis you're in her good books and Alice gets sent to camp. We can only hope :)
Only will bang her if the story needs it for progressing the game but only once the triggers go off she will get no more.

Right now I do nothing with Alice but the forced 2 times a week.
 

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She just wanted to take his virginity is all and in the movie she was just getting mom into her line of business nothing more nothing less.
Otherwise they would fuck every Saturday while the rest of them went shopping.

I don't really care about Kira or mom as long as I get Lisa I am happy but the bullshit with Alice needs to stop, I rather have the option to tell her to go fuck off and be sent to camp than go through that stupid shit.
The game is badly in need of a sense of the player being able to make a difference. There was that sense in the beginning where you could choose between Olivia GF path, or Lisa GF path. I thought that my buying Alice romantic novels might lead to at least a pseudo-romance with her, or getting her so turned on she gave in. I thought it was going to be a branching choice game with different paths to take.

Then Eric came, and it turned into Eric Friend or Eric War, neither of which was too much fun if you came to play an incest game. There needed to be an Avoid Eric Entirely option. But after that, there weren't really any options at all. It really became a glorified visual novel, where you're along for the ride. Which by itself, wouldn't have been too bad if that path wasn't all blueballing, bdsm, and blackmail. Those things could have been for interesting branches off of a game, but not as the only route.
 

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Only will bang her if the story needs it for progressing the game but only once the triggers go off she will get no more.

Right now I do nothing with Alice but the forced 2 times a week.
Me either. I used to be the biggest fan of Alice till she turned into a complete slut. I've not even played through the Kate story yet because it just seems bad and cringey.
 
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Does anyone think we'll get more Kira story? It's been like 6-7 updates since we actually got anything from her. She was my favourite character for a while since she actually wanted to fuck Max, not just for her own gain. In my opinion she actually sorta took over Eric's role of being the one that got you in with the family (just in a really shitty way).
I really hope that next vote sheet (for 0.14 version update) will contain Kira story route. And also i truly want it to be connected with other family members storylines. As for me Kira are the most charismatic charakter in the game.
 

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I agree with everyone saying that DS doesn't know how to write an incest game, but I also think that he doesn't have a clue about BDSM either. We've yet to see any good BDSM being played out. So far all it's been so far is;

Alice/Kate: "I'm in control."
Max: "Okay"

That's barely even submission. And how on Earth does a sub magically turn into a dom, then straight back to a sub?

Also, from what we've seen from mum, there's no real BDSM in play. From what we seen in the movie all she gets is a light spanking with a ruler. I don't know about you, but when I think about BDSM I think of leather, being chained up, whips, torture, pretty much ZERO fucking etc. Am I wrong?
 

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I agree with everything you said here and I want to add that it is still a great game but it is very disappointing the way its going.
Max and Lisa both have cell phones and can take vids of Alice but no it wont happen because DS is shit on writing the story, there used to be since to the game but now there is no since to it but Alice dom'ing it over everyone.
All the way up to this point Lisa hated spanking and now she love's them that is just more stupid bull shit.
On one of the spoiler picture we can see that Alice got some sort of control even on Ann. And that means that MC can't just say to her "Fuck off". I also think that after she catches them on the kitchen, it was her idea to help Max with mother seduction. In the end (when Alice become the tru sexual tirant in the house) Max will ask Kira for help, and (as a tru godess of sex) she will put Alice on her place, on the other hand will give some good advice to nephew.
 

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This is no longer a game but a visual novel, you no longer have a choice in anything and it is forced on you.

Hey @TCMS I think VN should be put on the title for this is no longer a game but a forced visual novel.

Also non consensual sex should be put in the genre list.
Because I know that you will think rape is to strong for it.
 

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That's barely even submission. And how on Earth does a sub magically turn into a dom, then straight back to a sub?
Did I miss something or Alice stoped with the blackmail bullshit and went back to her older, sub self?
 

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I guess he doesn't care anymore. As long as he does what his patrons want, he's fine with it.
Like the only reason I can even think of at this point is he's making the renders the patrons want, then has to go back and actually do dialog for them even if he can't bother with the story logic wise.
 

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I used to follow this thread but it just moves too fast for me. However, I just wanna say, looking at the preview pictures for 0.13, it looks like Max is going to fuck his mom all over the house. And that sounds awesome.

Could not care less about story at this point LOL. But carry on...
 

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Nope. It only gets worse (i think)


If we need to use Alice to bang mom, then that just renders all the work with Kira useless and in total makes Kira the most useless character in the history of games. Also, mom is pretty adamant about not doing anything with Alice or Lisa so her changing her mind make no sense (which doesn't bother DS I suppose)
 
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Like the only reason I can even think of at this point is he's making the renders the patrons want, then has to go back and actually do dialog for them even if he can't bother with the story logic wise.
Sadly, that seems more likely than it should.
 

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If we need to use Alice to bang mom, then that just renders all the work with Kira useless and in total makes Kira the most useless character in the history of games. Also, mom is pretty adamant about not doing anything with Alice or Lisa so her changing her mind make no sense (which doesn't bother DS I suppose)
Ann is, and ever was, an unstable whore. So that wouldn't be the most non sensical thing DS could do.
 

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I agree with everyone saying that DS doesn't know how to write an incest game, but I also think that he doesn't have a clue about BDSM either. We've yet to see any good BDSM being played out. So far all it's been so far is;

Alice/Kate: "I'm in control."
Max: "Okay"

That's barely even submission. And how on Earth does a sub magically turn into a dom, then straight back to a sub?

Also, from what we've seen from mum, there's no real BDSM in play. From what we seen in the movie all she gets is a light spanking with a ruler. I don't know about you, but when I think about BDSM I think of leather, being chained up, whips, torture, pretty much ZERO fucking etc. Am I wrong?
Only in that thinking it has a singular definition. Would be like saying sex is only missionary position, which some folks think is the only 'proper' way. I know some who hate the whole leather, chains etc. as it's (in their opinion) all created from the porn industry. And BDSM are multiple terms. You can have the B, the D and the SM as seperate.
As being tied up with sex. Just disipline (wthout bondage), and/or SM to go along with it. It's a very wide term.

As for Alice and her change, she'd be termed a 'switch', and that's not unusual. But story wise, well the writing is minimal so just easier to do 'whatever' and get the pictures in his supporters voted for. Because for one thing, a paddle doesn't = screaming as Alice mentions. So he's not knowledgeable
 

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So I've got a few questions about this whole discussion.

1. When exactly does this game have BDSM? Is it the spanking? Alice punishing Max and Lisa for having sex?

2. When is there non-consensual sex?

Not a question, but I'm sure there's many people playing this game that don't care for the story and just want to see sexual content. There's also probably a lot of people for whom incest is just having sex with family members and nothing more.
 
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