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Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

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I really don't understand why patreon is cracking down on incest in these games. Is it even illegal? I know incest between real people is illegal in most places. But there are a lot of examples of incest between imaginary people in other forms of media like books, movies, and tv shows. Patreon even used Game of Thrones as an example of what they think is acceptable incest. So why would imaginary incest be legal in other forms of media, but in a game it is illegal.
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Patreon is a platform. Other companies are involved too in the handling of money etc + 90% (if not 99%) of their revenue is not from adult games. There are tons and tons of other non-adult-games project on Patreon from art to children literature. By not cleaning up and enforcing stricter rules they may be at risk of alienating a much bigger audience than us and drive away their business partners.

Frankly, it wouldn't be inconceivable if Patreon said within the year "no adult content, including partial full frontal nudity" etc. I don't think they do those rules to be jerks. They do them because their business partners (including bigger names than our game developers) want them.

What they did because they were jerks were the 0.4$ per pledge crap. THAT was probably a decision by them to get more money.
 
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0.13 will be released without updater, with decrypted texts and images

it should make modders life much much better

Today is January 27, one year anniversary of Big Brother on Patreon. We had very productive year, our game has earned a lot of followers and we had a lot of plans for it in the future. But, unfortunately, Patreon has decided it doesn't want incest content on their website anymore. First we couldn't mention it in the description, then we couldn't have any adult content on our page for non-subscribers and now our game is banned altogether. And we can't cut out incest out of the game to unlock our page either, so here's what's going to happen in the near future:

1. We're still going to finish 0.13. We won't get any money for it and it's going to be free (you'll find it on the torrent sites, there will be links on discord and telegram, etc.). 0.13 is going to be released on time because a lot of players are waiting for it.

2. Big Brother is going to be frozen and 0.13 is going to be considered a final version of the game for now. We may continue BB development if we find an alternative to Patreon.

3. Our Patreon page is going to be completely reworked and restarted without Big Brother.

4. Our team is going to start working on our new project Glamour full time. You'll know more about it on our new updated Patreon page.

5. We're going to continue giving you regular updates. New screenshots, gameplay mechanics description, interface, etc. We love making adult games and we're going to continue making them, regardless of the temporary setbacks. Stay tuned!

-Dark Silver
 
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I wish you and your stuff all the best Dark Silver, it's saddening to hear what happened to your patreon page and your project. I hope you'll find a solution to this problem, you're not alone in this, there are ton of people ready and willing to support you and your work.
 
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And another one that bows down to Patreon wishes instead of using something alternative.

I have no interest in Glamour at all, so this will be my last month where i will be a pledge(untill he restarts BB because he lost the majority of his income).

I hope that this is just part of his plan to use Patreon for a little while for Glamour but meanwhile working on a alternative solution.
Because if it's not that.... Well.... It's just plain stupid.
The same shit is going to happen in a couple months with Glamour when Patreon adds new things to their No-No list..
Looks like everybody knows that this is going to happen, everybody except for all the devs... It's mind-boggling.

They continu to put all there effort into complying with Patreon's wishes instead of leaving Patreon behind, i understand that the income through Patreon is amazing but there are so many other alternatives that it's (again) mind-boggling that they put their faith in Patreon.... Amazing..

But then again... It's the motto of 99.99% worlds population at this point.
Rather wait for something better to come up instead of working on that something better yourself.

But i want to finish on a positive note this time.
Thanks DS for the year of amazing updates and amazing game, of course it has it's problems(like any other game)but for me this stays one of the better games on the internet.
Thanks :) ..
 
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Here are my thoughts on the whole patreon issue.

Watching the number of pledgers, it seems to me, that patreon is reviewing their creators for questionable content from top to bottom.

Since DMD from MrDotsGames had the same issues i wanted to link to his posts on patreon but sadly they are deleted.
He just started his own site and since he copes a month longer with the patreon issue, it might be a good option to watch his plans and contact him.
A quick google search for this developer further revealed that he seems to be getting involved with hatreon (no joke).

I think that PayPal is more to blame than patreon, cause they are the company with the strict morals.
Adult Games are a niche and therefore sadly the weakest link.

I hope that developement will continue!
 
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Aaaaaaand R.I.P. well, that's a downer. It will be interesting to see what will happen to his patreon cash flow now, will we see a huge money drop or not. I'm guessing he believes in Glamour more then BB or he would try to fight more, like MrDots is doing.
 
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Why all adult game makers who got screwed by Patreon won't decide on what new platform to use, instead of playing by Patreon's retarded new rules...
 
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random887766 said:
I really don't understand why patreon is cracking down on incest in these games. Is it even illegal? I know incest between real people is illegal in most places. But there are a lot of examples of incest between imaginary people in other forms of media like books, movies, and tv shows. Patreon even used Game of Thrones as an example of what they think is acceptable incest. So why would imaginary incest be legal in other forms of media, but in a game it is illegal.
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A big reason for cracking down on it is that a lot of people equate incest with rape or child abuse, both of which are are big public causes right now. Look at #metoo and that gymnastics doctor thing. The assumption is that incest is always some man raping a family member, so any incest is bad, even in a fantasy setting.

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And another one that bows down to Patreon wishes instead of using something alternative.

I have no interest in Glamour at all, so this will be my last month where i will be a pledge(untill he restarts BB because he lost the majority of his income).

I hope that this is just part of his plan to use Patreon for a little while for Glamour but meanwhile working on a alternative solution.
Because if it's not that.... Well.... It's just plain stupid.
The same shit is going to happen in a couple months with Glamour when Patreon adds new things to their No-No list..
Looks like everybody knows that this is going to happen, everybody except for all the devs... It's mind-boggling.

They continu to put all there effort into complying with Patreon's wishes instead of leaving Patreon behind, i understand that the income through Patreon is amazing but there are so many other alternatives that it's (again) mind-boggling that they put their faith in Patreon.... Amazing..

But then again... It's the motto of 99.99% worlds population at this point.
Rather wait for something better to come up instead of working on that something better yourself.

But i want to finish on a positive note this time.
Thanks DS for the year of amazing updates and amazing game, of course it has it's problems(like any other game)but for me this stays one of the better games on the internet.
Thanks :) ..
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DS has already said that they expect that Patreon will also ban the workarounds some developers are already trying, which I agree with. As for alternatives to Patreon, right now there aren't many. Most alternatives to Patreon are going to run afoul of PayPal or banks that won't process certain types of adult income. A site could do it with cryptcurrency, but that's an extra hurdle for the casual fan, plus it would give things the appearance of being shady as hell. The public perception would be that any such site would be the Silk Road of hardcore ********** or the like. Of you may find other companies willing to host, but then you have to give them your credit card directly to some company set up in some tiny country. I wouldn't take the chance with my credit card.
 
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Unfortunately, Patreon is only one rock stable platform. It's like Facebook, you may hate it but you have no choice.

Frankly speaking, I do believe in Glamor. I learn some harsh experience with BB and I hope I will be able to make things better/more attractive. And I will not be forced to switch game in the middle because of NTR/other stuff.
 
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DarkSilver said:
Unfortunately, Patreon is only one rock stable platform. It's like Facebook, you may hate it but you have no choice.

Frankly speaking, I do believe in Glamor. I learn some harsh experience with BB and I hope I will be able to make things better/more attractive. And I will not be forced to switch game in the middle because of NTR/other stuff.
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Yeah, sounds reasonable. Keep it up!
 
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DarkSilver said:
Unfortunately, Patreon is only one rock stable platform. It's like Facebook, you may hate it but you have no choice.

Frankly speaking, I do believe in Glamor. I learn some harsh experience with BB and I hope I will be able to make things better/more attractive. And I will not be forced to switch game in the middle because of NTR/other stuff.
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Best of luck with Glamour. I'll be watching the development of Glamour with great interest.
Hopefully we can see some more content for BB in the future.
 
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DarkSilver said:
Unfortunately, Patreon is only one rock stable platform. It's like Facebook, you may hate it but you have no choice.

Frankly speaking, I do believe in Glamor. I learn some harsh experience with BB and I hope I will be able to make things better/more attractive. And I will not be forced to switch game in the middle because of NTR/other stuff.
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I understand it.
And i really believe that you believe that Glamour is going to be amazing.

But after they are done with the No-No topics now, do you really think that that's it ?.
That they will leave you to work in peace?.
Come one, you can't be that naive..

I understand that Patreon is the only Rock Solid platform, but this stuff is happening since 5 or 6 months ago.
In my mind, that's more then enough time to create something alternative.
And it don't has to be as complicated as Patreon, but if just a couple devs would have put their hands together in de last couple months then there would be a "new" patreon already.
That is the thing that annoys me the most..... Instead of working together for something better, that almost everybody just decided to wait it out..

For the last couple of weeks a couple of previous collegues and me(financial support) are working on a concept for a adult site(2 of them used to work for Paypal so they know a little bit what they are doing) but that's obviously still a couple months from finished because there are many, many things we need to work out.
But we have done so many things in 3 weeks that i know for sure that a couple devs together could have created something already by now.
 
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