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The porn in the game can be turned off and you won't miss a huge chunk of the lore as the porn isn't much of the focus. Hell, most of what I heard in the reviews I saw don't say anthing about the porn being relevant to the game's lore and story or even mention the porn at all.
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I can't agree since some characters tend to give some important hints in the process of H-Scene, though I can't say more because it would be a spoiler.
So you think the fetish porn in the game is necessary to understand story and not something that can be sidelined? Because from what I heard, that's not the case.
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If we are talking specifically about Black Souls series, in BS1 it only adds to the atmosphere, whilst in BS2 it also adds some lore in rare cases. So, in BS2 you are risking to miss some information that will help you to understand the game better.
For example, some grinning cat talks too much during the carnal act.
I disagree because the porn in both games is very much a forgettable and sidelined thing. They're not that deep either, just there for sexual arousal and what not.
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Unlikely, it is intended by the author of the game, that the main character would do everything what is available to him.
You'll get wrong impression about the game if you miss out any content. You must consume everything.
I am not going to pretend with you that the porn is deep and complex when it's not. I just think that anything that's beyond just the graphic sex has at least some substance to it that makes them more memorable.
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We are not talking about subjective opinion on the porn part of the game. I only told you that you are risking to miss out some lore and will get the wrong impression about the game.
Which I really disagree with you on that as the game has a good enough story and lore even if you were to remove the pornography from it.
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You are too innocent. I'm not sure if it is my place to argue with you since we are on a different wavelengths.
In other words, you need more SEN.
If anything, I'd rather turn off the porn and get a better experience of the game's story and characters.
I'm curious, what exactly does Sen means in this game? Why does some character changes when the Sen is low and others don't (Vermeil, Node)? And why does Red Hood only appears in 0 Sen while turning into beast like appearance in 100 Sen?
I have my own interpretation but I would like to know what you guys think
I have my own interpretation but I would like to know what you guys think
SEN is a katakana wordplay on insanity in japanese. Its also a bloodborn reference to the "Insight/Madness" mechanic.
100 SEN means 100 insanity/madness.
0 SEN means 0 insanity/madness.
You could also call it akin to constant brainwashing due the H route with GG explanation
Some people appear both at 100 & 0 SEN because these are their real body`s.
Some disappear because they dont exist or are fairy tale concepts/spirits.
Ultimately SEN boils down to Grimm`s perception of the world around him.
Grimm either sees for what Wonderland truly is at 0 insanity.
Or what Grimm sees with a wraped mind at 100 insanity.
Does that mean we have been having sex with gross monsters that is also our children the whole time?
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Thanks bros. For some reason it never occurred to me the reason why the tutorial made me max upgrade the sorcerer's wand.
Another question, Is there anything I should know during DLC3 besides Blackwell? Anything that I could miss out on (I NG+ my run twice because of JubJub and didn't do 0 sen run)
Or is there a guide on DLC3 beside the 8 hours YouTube video?
Or is there a guide on DLC3 beside the 8 hours YouTube video?
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Though it is true that SEN shows how much SEN
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/MUDNES (madness) the main character has, this mechanic does not follow one single rule, so it's not easy to say what exactly SEN is.Basic reasoning:
The reasons for speculation are contradictive effects of SEN on the visuals and gameplay.
The reasons for speculation are contradictive effects of SEN on the visuals and gameplay.
1) For example it works correctly if we are talking about Star Spirits, an equivalent of the Lovecraft's Star Vampires. They are completely invisible to the human eyes while being visible when they are full of victim's blood. In the game they are almost invisible at 0 SEN, which makes sense. It suggests that when SEN is less than 1, Grimm sees what a normal human would see.
They attack Grimm regardless of being visible or not, unlike red eyed creatures called "Love" if you translate their name. They attack him only at 0 SEN for some reason. Same as Her in the Slaughterhouse. It suggests that certain creatures can feel Grimm's SEN level and perhaps asking for attention.
1.5) Red Hood in this case follows weird logic. At the first encounter you can see her in both 0 and > 0 SEN mode, while any time after that you can see Red Hood with the same SEN you can see "Love" creatures. It suggests that you saw real Red Hood only once.
1.55) It also weirds me out that with SEN more than 0 Red Hood looked like a beast, while many other characters changes into beast form at SEN less than 0. It suggest that Grimm's perception is inverted with SEN more than 0, with a few exceptions like Mabel, Node, Prickett, TCO and almost anything you see in the DLC3.
1.60) Why? Because some illusions are too strong to be affected by SEN. It is my personal explanation.
2) 0 SEN make corpses turn invisible, while in reality they do exist, same as Star Spirits. It suggests that many creatures were changed by gods to make them close to gods' Outer nature so to say. But it has a problem, since items Grimm picks up from the invisible creatures do not become invisible regardless of Grimm's SEN level.
3) It makes certain doors "appear" and "disappear", like the one in the Rabbit Hole, Slaughterhouse and door to DLC3 in the Carroll's River. It suggests that Grimm can't use what he can't see.
4) It change the meaning of words Grimm can perceive with different amount of SEN, like the statue of Wolris, Jack's words when we firstly encounter Red Hood, sign at the Park of Fog and translated gibberish Griffy's words at the bridge. It suggest that Grimm hears and sees the opposite of what characters originally meant. Sometimes meaning can change drastically depending on SEN level, like on sign at the Rabbit's Hole elevator, Snowmen and Madonna in the Box.
5) Sometimes SEN gives unpredictable effect.
5.1) It almost doesn't affect Goose and I can't explain that, but it gives a simple phrase in her dialogue, suggesting that she remembers what Grimm did.
5.2) When SEN is more than 0, it can make Grimm perceive not alive creatures as alive, such as one in the Mental Ward, Ox Ward University and Mabel's clocks. It suggest that Grimm can hear, see and understand changed inanimate objects, if his SEN is high enough.
5.3) Certain locations like Witch's House and Hotel Poseidon perceived very differently with SEN more than 99, making Grimm vivid dream some memories and characters than don't exist anymore. It suggests that Grimm's memory become too vivid when he is completely SEN. Though the result of flashback in the Hotel Poseidon is weird.
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, but instead it lowered to 0, as if SEN was deleted artificially by the gears.Conclusion:
It would be easy to say that when SEN is more than 0 Grimm's mind inverts original meaning of what he sees and hears, while also seeing what a normal human wasn't suppose to see, but as we can see SEN is not as simple as it may look.
It would be easy to say that when SEN is more than 0 Grimm's mind inverts original meaning of what he sees and hears, while also seeing what a normal human wasn't suppose to see, but as we can see SEN is not as simple as it may look.
At page 309 Phenir made a guide for ending H/DLC3 content.
Plus with all the new content/NPCs dont forget to keep JubJubs trigger in mind(progress 10)
To quote my own post:"You could also call it constant brainwashing due the H route with GG(Gran Guignol) explanation"
Gear of Madness pretty much allows us to bypass GG constant effect with their own power. As always with eldritch shenanigans invovled its a conceptual mess of multiple layers. Which is why just like in Bloodborn the more insanity/insight you gain the more you see the eldritch entitys crawling around in Yharnam.