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Sure, you are correct. I just wanted to prove that SEN is working in quite unique, in a deep and multilayered way comparing to Insight in Bloodborne. And it is not as chaotic as it may look, but overall I agree with you.
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IIRC toro said it has to do with her status as a being born from a fairy tale. Other beings born from fairy tales, mainly madness spirits but also Vernai, don't change appearance as well except Red. Red might be a special case since 1) she comes from outside the garden and 2) she was created by Mary Sue but overcame the fate originally assigned to her by Mary Sue.
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Omnom88 I suppose you are using spoilers to make messages more compact? I'll do the same at least while communicating with you.
I have my own interpretation on this, so correct me if I'm wrong.
When we first meet Red Hood, Grimm's mind was warped by TCO.
Jack mentioned The Crawling Little Girls right at the first encounter with Red Hood, which is suspicious in my opinion:
I can also add to that, that there are at least two cases where I think that we see a real Red Hood:
1) When we met Jack the Ripper. (Encounter that I mentioned before)
2) When we fight with Elizabeth.
Why? Because in these cases Red Hood doesn't become invisible with high SEN like red eyed monsters called "Love", if you translate that alien language.
In cases where Red Hood becomes invisible probably not Red Hood at all, but one of TCO's "eyes" so to say.
I do see a problem with one of the theories as it would be stupid for TCO to stop Grimm from reaching endings F and G where he finally meets him, because Red Hood is important for that, but maybe that only adds to his madness?
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I'd like to agree with that, but knowing how SEN works and both Goose and Red Hood being made by Mary Sue it doesn't really adds up. Kuti also comes from outside the Garden and without invitation, but she has humanoid appearance and speech with high SEN. Though I was partially mistaken as well, since Blackwell is a human but SEN doesn't affect her appearance, so I must agree on Red Hood being a special case. Also Hein, Victoria and Miranda are not affected by SEN if I remember correctly.
I have my own interpretation on this, so correct me if I'm wrong.
When we first meet Red Hood, Grimm's mind was warped by TCO.
Jack mentioned The Crawling Little Girls right at the first encounter with Red Hood, which is suspicious in my opinion:
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I can also add to that, that there are at least two cases where I think that we see a real Red Hood:
1) When we met Jack the Ripper. (Encounter that I mentioned before)
2) When we fight with Elizabeth.
Why? Because in these cases Red Hood doesn't become invisible with high SEN like red eyed monsters called "Love", if you translate that alien language.
In cases where Red Hood becomes invisible probably not Red Hood at all, but one of TCO's "eyes" so to say.
I do see a problem with one of the theories as it would be stupid for TCO to stop Grimm from reaching endings F and G where he finally meets him, because Red Hood is important for that, but maybe that only adds to his madness?
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I am not exactly sure how it happend. But i remember fucking up badly 2 times in a row with Blackwells quest & JubJub. So for anyone out there trying to go for H. Dont be like me and plan your route carefully. To avoid unintentional NPC deaths.
Alright Ima be real here, but after understanding the lore a bit, so... We have been fucking our daughters the whole time?
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I'd say Grimm's "headpatting" desires were not limited to his own daughters.
Amazing summary, I would love to hear opinions of players now with all the theory changes/new theories and reveals after a year.
For me there are two things: how did GG pull back grimm after G ending happens and if mary sue did not lie, all the happenings in the dream world were not even a 1 year outside? red hood came back after getting out because grimm got pulled back? poor girl really
secondly, I dont think mabel truly die. there were some talk about her real body and all (been some time since I played so maybe I am remembering wrong)
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Hey guys! I just finished Ending H, and OH BOY if it ain't a ride. I thought I misses something on my run when the "BAD ENDING" screen appears but it's all good!
The story in this game is solid af, definitely gonna put it in one of my favourites, I can feel the passion of the maker when making the game. Still though, why does all the good game with good story all come from RPGMaker porn game smh, Demon Roots, King Exit, Black Souls 1 & 2, does adding loli getting raped in your game give 200% buff to the story or something lol.
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The story in this game is solid af, definitely gonna put it in one of my favourites, I can feel the passion of the maker when making the game. Still though, why does all the good game with good story all come from RPGMaker porn game smh, Demon Roots, King Exit, Black Souls 1 & 2, does adding loli getting raped in your game give 200% buff to the story or something lol.
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It filters who you can target the story at pretty effectively. "Appeal to a wider audience" is a lethal poison to creative energies.
Makes sense, oh wait "Phenir" ? I saw your name everywhere here, I couldn't have finished the game without your guide, just want to give you a thanks for it.
Could I ask question regarding lore though? I'm kind of curious about something...
- Since it is revealed that the girls in Wonderland is your offspring, besides the Four Nightmare, Quti and Oyster girl (correct me if I'm wrong)
- and I'll assume that the role of the character is passed upon to their offspring every cycle, starting off the daughter of the "Great One" replacing "Great One" after a cycle and repeat
- Since the game starts at cycle 64, Does this mean that you are, in this cycle, is fucking your great-great-great-great-great.....grand daughters?
- Where does the older girls go after starting a new cycle? There are some in Winterbell yeah..idk?
- Does this imply the existence of something like "Great One DooDoo" and "Great One Femboy Lizard" ?
- Is Serpent God part of the cycle or is he a a pure "Great One"
Maybe, maybe not. It seems the crawling one was starting to have trouble finding anyone to act as certain characters, like elder sister Alice, so it could be the children do not participate in the main stage, but there is also B ending and the offspring at the tavern.
I'd guess Node just keeps them all in Winterbell, ready to fight in the garden wars if it comes to that.
Not specifically Dodo but a outer one acting as Dodo, yes. For example, there is no outer one called Mabel, but there is yog-sothoth acting as Mabel.
That depends on the answer you want to accept for your first question.
In the end, a lot of details are left up to viewer interpretation. For example, to go back to your previous post, I don't think Jub Jub ended up as an ally in the end. Specifically, I do not believe the 3 Alices and Bandersnatch, Jub Jub, and Jabberwock are the same respective entities. I can see how you'd arrive at that conclusion though.
Hmm? I thought JubJub is like obviously the little sister.. I mean, how should one interpret that scene in H ending then? Also the fact she drops Gear of Madness of all thing?
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