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RPGM Completed Black Souls II [v1.13 Official translation] [Eeny, meeny, miny, moe?]

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Omnom88

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QuestionTime said:
I didn't get a notification because you didn't reply to me directly lol. I thought so because most of my stats are around 5k-10k depending on gear. Does the dev really expect me to grind chaos dungeon for ages to get stats that high? Sounds like a joke tbh. I've been kind of cheesing it by getting really high magic and trying to burst/crit the bosses but florence is immune to crits which makes the strat harder.
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Its recommended. However if you want a fancy challenge sure you could continue with your current stats.
DLC3 enemies hit hard & use various skills you have to counter with your own. Plus % dmg against your HP.
If you dont want to grind boss rush or chaos dungeon. At the very least try to obtain some of the the ultimate skills...or Requiem from chaos dungeon & then get the best helmet from best girl for beating boss rush once.

Minimum at least try to reach 10k in both luck and speed for your own sanity.
 
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QuestionTime said:
I didn't get a notification because you didn't reply to me directly lol. I thought so because most of my stats are around 5k-10k depending on gear. Does the dev really expect me to grind chaos dungeon for ages to get stats that high? Sounds like a joke tbh. I've been kind of cheesing it by getting really high magic and trying to burst/crit the bosses but florence is immune to crits which makes the strat harder.
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Do note you can get a lot of souls from farming Miranda at highest diff that you can do with soul magics, demon's catalyst and magic boosting equipment if you want. Works well if you can end the fight pretty early if you don't wanna do Ashes Reignited/Chaos Dungeon. Also as they have said, try to beat the boss rush at least once.

If you have enough patience in Chaos Dungeon, you can get the most braindead skills in the game outside of requiem.
 
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Omnom88 said:
Its recommended. However if you want a fancy challenge sure you could continue with your current stats.
DLC3 enemies hit hard & use various skills you have to counter with your own. Plus % dmg against your HP.
If you dont want to grind boss rush or chaos dungeon. At the very least try to obtain some of the the ultimate skills...or Requiem from chaos dungeon & then get the best helmet from best girl for beating boss rush once.

Minimum at least try to reach 10k in both luck and speed for your own sanity.
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10k in luck and speed? I thought someone said speed caps at like 4k because it means it updates once every frame. What does luck even do btw? Also is boss rush dlc related because I have no idea where I would even access that. Don't tell me if it's a spoiler though. Also is leveling HP important btw because it seems to raise really fucking slowly so I've ignored it for the most part. I also already have requiem and I managed to get awakening and a black rabbit ring in the dungeon which should help a lot.

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Do note you can get a lot of souls from farming Miranda at highest diff that you can do with soul magics, demon's catalyst and magic boosting equipment if you want. Works well if you can end the fight pretty early if you don't wanna do Ashes Reignited/Chaos Dungeon. Also as they have said, try to beat the boss rush at least once.

If you have enough patience in Chaos Dungeon, you can get the most braindead skills in the game outside of requiem.
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I've been using demon's catalyst as my main weapon with crit gear because chaos blast + crit does massive damage. Especially so if I use awakening + royal tea(?) to omniboost myself. I also have tons of mana pots + pigeon eggs so I can spam high mana moves. The ravenous mimics have been pretty good for me if I can find them because they give me like 9 mil souls at the moment. Is there a list of all chaos dungeon exclusive moves so I can know which ones im missing?
 
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Luck affects status application, including break. If you have over 1000 luck less than the enemy then it becomes impossible to apply statuses. Bosses in dlc 3 have fairly high luck, the most notorious one has 8100 luck, up to 4x that depending on difficulty. Also, bosses can ignore luck for their own status affliction so don't think having really high luck will protect you.
Speed does soft cap at around 4k but debuffs, armor penalties, and duchess covenant exist. Still, if you make use of the anchor's indignation (you should be anyway, it's +1 action), it's trivial to speed cap.
The ultimate skills in the chaos dungeon are the same ultimate moves from bs1 for the companions, except execution and kamikaze. That means royal tea, catherine's wheels, black slash (red slash), awakening, chaos blast, quick dance, black wave, and holy banner
The boss rush is the door to the left of the chaos dungeon.
Hp should be increasing like 10x as fast as the other stats if you are using black souls.
 
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QuestionTime said:
10k in luck and speed? I thought someone said speed caps at like 4k because it means it updates once every frame. What does luck even do btw? Also is boss rush dlc related because I have no idea where I would even access that. Don't tell me if it's a spoiler though. Also is leveling HP important btw because it seems to raise really fucking slowly so I've ignored it for the most part. I also already have requiem and I managed to get awakening and a black rabbit ring in the dungeon which should help a lot.
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Phenir mostly mentionend the main reasons already.
The reason i recommend 10k for speed is because of various debuffs/value changes depending on what gear you use. Armor, headgear, weapons, rings etc can change boost or nerf your main values. Then there is also combat debuffs that nerf your own stats.
10k speed or all values is just nice enough to have in case all sorts status afflictions hit you. Or you want to cheese speed scales with some attack items/weapons.
Luck as said is important for debuff related systems. Same as speed 10k luck is a nice enough area where you can still manage a lot of stuff thrown at you.

Utmost left door at the chaos dungeon bornfire.

Whatever you end up doing or not doing you do you.
 
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Omnom88 said:
Phenir mostly mentionend the main reasons already.
The reason i recommend 10k for speed is because of various debuffs/value changes depending on what gear you use. Armor, headgear, weapons, rings etc can change boost or nerf your main values. Then there is also combat debuffs that nerf your own stats.
10k speed or all values is just nice enough to have in case all sorts status afflictions hit you. Or you want to cheese speed scales with some attack items/weapons.
Luck as said is important for debuff related systems. Same as speed 10k luck is a nice enough area where you can still manage a lot of stuff thrown at you.

Utmost left door at the chaos dungeon bornfire.

Whatever you end up doing or not doing you do you.
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Oh that door? I forgot about that because it didn't open when I first walked in. Also with the recommended stats being 20k did people really mean that BEFORE equipment?
 
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QuestionTime said:
Oh dear lmao. Well I better get to grinding then. If this is what is required on difficulty 0 I really wonder what the fuck you'd need for difficulty 1 or more lol
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At difficulty 0 10k in all is "enough". But yes there are good reason`s why its recommended.
If you utulize all your weapons inside combat well enough you can outplay everything that DLC3 throws at you. Even the mean and green bullshit.

QuestionTime said:
Oh btw what's the most efficient soul to buy to level my stats is the 300k soul better than buying individual souls for 5k?
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-Outer Ones have the highest stat gain......30 x99 stacks
-Tainted Black Soul was 3 x99
-Regular Black Soul is 1 x99

Should be it if my brain didnt fumble again. (CURSE YE MABEL!!!)
Farming the Old Ki-..."ahem" boss rush gives 50 stacks for each clear. Otherwise you have to go to Mabel directly as she is the only one who sells them.
It really depends on where you are atm in the game and how easy you manage to clear boss rush for all kind of colored souls + Outer Ones bonus at the end. Or if you have to grind regular souls & in turn go to Mabel to buy them.
 
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Omnom88 said:
At difficulty 0 10k in all is "enough". But yes there are good reason`s why its recommended.
If you utulize all your weapons inside combat well enough you can outplay everything that DLC3 throws at you. Even the mean and green bullshit.



-Outer Ones have the highest stat gain......30 x99 stacks
-Tainted Black Soul was 3 x99
-Regular Black Soul is 1 x99

Should be it if my brain didnt fumble again. (CURSE YE MABEL!!!)
Farming the Old Ki-..."ahem" boss rush gives 50 stacks for each clear. Otherwise you have to go to Mabel directly as she is the only one who sells them.
It really depends on where you are atm in the game and how easy you manage to clear boss rush for all kind of colored souls + Outer Ones bonus at the end. Or if you have to grind regular souls & in turn go to Mabel to buy them.
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I see thanks for the help. I kind of like farming so I don't mind too much anyways. Also as I said earlier do you know if there's some sort of spell list so I can know which ones im missing from the chaos dungeon (if any)
 
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QuestionTime

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Omnom88 said:
At difficulty 0 10k in all is "enough". But yes there are good reason`s why its recommended.
If you utulize all your weapons inside combat well enough you can outplay everything that DLC3 throws at you. Even the mean and green bullshit.



-Outer Ones have the highest stat gain......30 x99 stacks
-Tainted Black Soul was 3 x99
-Regular Black Soul is 1 x99

Should be it if my brain didnt fumble again. (CURSE YE MABEL!!!)
Farming the Old Ki-..."ahem" boss rush gives 50 stacks for each clear. Otherwise you have to go to Mabel directly as she is the only one who sells them.
It really depends on where you are atm in the game and how easy you manage to clear boss rush for all kind of colored souls + Outer Ones bonus at the end. Or if you have to grind regular souls & in turn go to Mabel to buy them.
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Oh the door to the boss rush isn't opening. How do I open it? Do I need to beat every boss at least once or something?
 
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QuestionTime said:
I see thanks for the help. I kind of like farming so I don't mind too much anyways. Also as I said earlier do you know if there's some sort of spell list so I can know which ones im missing from the chaos dungeon (if any)
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Scroll up Phenir already listed all of them in his post.

QuestionTime said:
Oh the door to the boss rush isn't opening. How do I open it? Do I need to beat every boss at least once or something?
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Huh.....i have no idear. Heh how about you try to kill the Old King in the Chaos Dungeon. Who knows maybe its just crazy enough to open the door for you.
 
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Omnom88 said:
Scroll up Phenir already listed all of them in his post.



Huh.....i have no idear. Heh how about you try to kill the Old King in the Chaos Dungeon. Who knows maybe its just crazy enough to open the door for you.
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I did kill him so I'm guessing it's because I haven't killed/seen some bosses before. I'm still missing some op chaos dungeon spells anyways so it's worth doing it still. Oh btw I meant is it worth *buying* the souls. Like is it more efficient than buying colored ones.
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Omnom88

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QuestionTime said:
I did kill him so I'm guessing it's because I haven't killed/seen some bosses before.
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No seriously i have no idear why your boss rush door is closed. Its been so long since anything gatekept me from any sort of progress because of my master mule savefile.

QuestionTime said:
Oh btw I meant is it worth *buying* the souls. Like is it more efficient than buying colored ones.
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Omnom88 said:
- 1 Outer One Soul= every stat +30 x99
- 1 Tainted Black Soul=every stat + 3 x99
-1 Black Soul=every stat +1 x99
-Any colored soul +1 for a specific stat x99
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Idk man you do the math.
 
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QuestionTime said:
I did kill him so I'm guessing it's because I haven't killed/seen some bosses before. I'm still missing some op chaos dungeon spells anyways so it's worth doing it still. Oh btw I meant is it worth *buying* the souls. Like is it more efficient than buying colored ones.

Thanks.
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boss rush might be locked because of two reasons I can think of: 1, you may need to reach the dungeon entrance bonfire from queen's land or 2, you went into ng+ after killing the old king. I might be wrong on those but, those are my most reasonable guesses.
 
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DipoRaptor

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I need to redownload this game but I remember the fact i didn't get the golden/true ending yet because it glitched.... *sighs*
any one got a save with the setup for that done?
 
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