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AmazonessKing

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It's very sad to say, but i am pretty sure it will not "end" in any way. Let's be honest, even if updates are released in the next 5 years (At most one per year with this outstanding work ethic.), the game would still be far from completion, and in that same time period Siren (Siren's Domain games) will complete 1 or 2 of those amazing games.
Couldn't agree more.
 

ikstarven

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Dec 1, 2019
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Not sure why people think Bones is making a killing while doing nothing. His Patreon sits at $1,270/month right now. And of course that's before taxes. Nobody can live off of that. Of course, it's a nice piece of extra cash. But not worth trashing his entire reputation/future art-based income over.
He's not in US or Europe, that amount is enough for him in his country
 
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Airell

Developer of Love and Corruption
Game Developer
Aug 18, 2017
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Sometimes I'm surprised about cults of personality. The fanatism gets to a point you can't see the flaws of your favorite creators. Eh, never liked this game anyway, but I'd say one of the reasons why the game is not getting updated is because the other game, which is somehow worse. I wonder how all of this will end.
I don't think this is something related to the dev. I would say this is simply people enjoying a game and voluntarily not accepting the reality in front of them, this happens regularly with fat Patreon projects.

That just reinforces the dev's position, as he realizes that he'll be supported permanently even if he doesn't do anything for years. He simply has no rational reason to work.
 

joblo9394

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Jul 4, 2017
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I don't think this is something related to the dev. I would say this is simply people enjoying a game and voluntarily not accepting the reality in front of them, this happens regularly with fat Patreon projects.

That just reinforces the dev's position, as he realizes that he'll be supported permanently even if he doesn't do anything for years. He simply has no rational reason to work.
I could almost agree, but having watched him through the years here then on his discord for a while. The thing is he is charismatic. He plays himself as the "nice guy" and the "victim". He also has a band of influencers. Part of humane nature people like to jump on the band wagon, and just like you see here he has his "unrelated" 3th parties to remind everyone that he is a cool guy and he is "doing his best", "drawn art takes time", and "making a game is difficult".

Notably his chosen mods, and if you hang around on his discord long enough you see that they all have f95 accounts too. They just "don't use them" because f95 is toxic.

Thought the decline he surrounded himself with yes men, and shamed and kicked anyone who apposed him. Looking at it just now it just seams like he has a bunch of overzealous supporters, but watching through the years you see he made a community where it is at times said and unsaid that you can and should only support him no matter what he dose. You are reminded how much better he is then you as he is a "game creator that uses real drawn art. That also makes him better then 3d cg game creators".

Manipulating, peer presser, influencers, shaming, fear (of getting banned), elitism, and sympathy. Are some of the tools he has and is still using. Like devilxxx said almost all of us here are or were fans and or supports. For a time I was even active on his discord. If you are there long enough "community influence" may convince you he is right. If you are here long enough "community influence" may convince you we are. Honestly you here more our side here, and his side there. I got bored with his discord and stopped watching the game in general here for a time, and honestly what made me dislike his actions the most had nothing to do with this thread or his discord. It was watching the developers that I do see working consistently, steadily, through difficulties, and even through burnouts. I know personally how hard some of the things he has to deal with is as a game developer and artist. I deal with them myself.

We are a community of more then just pirates. We are pirates, players, supports, creators, developers, coders, and much more.
 

BruceMcGivern

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Apr 19, 2020
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It's really funny to see his discord now. People there posting they start to hate F95. We're a toxic community. You all know that?

I know you guys from discord are reading this. Before making such false statements, you should read about the last 700 pages. But I bet you all to lazy for it. But if you would do, then you would see, how a community full of support and ideas, switched to a dissapointed (not toxic) bunch of people.

In the beginning, everyone was concerned about Doc. They also tested, reported and contributed with ideas. I also don't need to mention they supported him financially too. But after a while, they start to see that Doc more and more was losing interest into making his game (which he by himself stated was a passion project!) and more about making money.

Updates took very long. From 1-2 months to half a year or even longer.
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As we can see. Four months, between the first two releases. Over one year between the second and the third release.
So people started to ask what is going on. They asked here and also on his discord. Doc started to disappear from F95 and shortly after banning everyone asking for an update on his discord.

People started to get annoyed by his behavior and started to speak out loud about it. Supporters demanded to know what's going on, because they paid months of good money to support him. But he just ignored it or banned people who supported him for years! This is not toxic, this is speaking the truth!

If anyone is toxic, than its YOU, his wicked discord community, supporting a scammer.
Based post coming from a Donor.

And I insist. This thread needs to be considered to get only in the OP all of its pledging links: Patreon, Subscriberstar so he stops getting free attention from newcomers that have absolutely zero idea on the faith of this game!

Also take into account survivors guilt it's a second platter of income mainly in it's patreon due it's a game free of incest so add the factor of another abandoned and no possible finished game, since he didn't even bothered to finish 1 game properly at the very start lmao!
In conclusion the excuse beyond it's health at this point of time it's BS and I found it incredible that people like this stay away from everything and yet cashing lots of money from people with hugh expectations of pledging every month just to simply getting their money ripped off by someone that is not doing a damn about the content or product they/it's delivering
 
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Redleg

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Apr 22, 2018
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I don't think this is something related to the dev. I would say this is simply people enjoying a game and voluntarily not accepting the reality in front of them, this happens regularly with fat Patreon projects.

That just reinforces the dev's position, as he realizes that he'll be supported permanently even if he doesn't do anything for years. He simply has no rational reason to work.
Occam's razor right here folks.
 

Marry

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Jul 30, 2018
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I love checking out the discord from time to time, it's hilarious !
"Why they hate him ?" (talking about the F95 thread...again)
"Because they are impatient af and can't understand doc's health issues [...]"

So asking for the third of an update after more than a year is being impatient, and the good "doc has health issues" is gold. Dude... he has been "sick" for two month not a full year what the hell ?
 
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I don't really know why this thread is still alive... It should've just been abandoned the moment it got the tag.
People should just stop complaining and stop paying him. People that haven't payed him a cent should just shut up, and the people that have payed him, the rational thing is stop paying him since he seems to not to the one thing you are paying him for.
There are many other games out there BETTER than this one and are still on development, why not support them? Why keep feeding this dick for nothing in return?

Don't take this text aggressively please ;).*
 

AmazonessKing

Amazoness Entrepreneur
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blyss - Mind naming off a few that are better? I've d/led around 500 games from F95zone (Do I have a life? Who knows) and this is still my favorite. (Summertime Saga doesn't count)
It depends on what you are looking for, what you like about the game, and what you would consider to better those aspects. I can already say some games are better than this, and Demon Deals came out recently. I don't think there's anything that stands out from this game unless you are into bestiality for some reason, which I think a lot of people either don't care or actively don't like, like me.
 
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Asshat25

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Dec 5, 2020
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I don't really know why this thread is still alive... It should've just been abandoned the moment it got the tag.
People should just stop complaining and stop paying him. People that haven't payed him a cent should just shut up, and the people that have payed him, the rational thing is stop paying him since he seems to not to the one thing you are paying him for.
There are many other games out there BETTER than this one and are still on development, why not support them? Why keep feeding this dick for nothing in return?

Don't take this text aggressively please ;).*
Care to point me in the direction of some?
 
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Marry

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Jul 30, 2018
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Care to point me in the direction of some?
Honestly it depends on what type of game you are looking for. I think you can't go wrong with games, good workflow, nice art (commissioned artists), fun stories.
And recently i discovered Space Rescue: Code Pink a fun point & click game, still in development that deserves some support.
 
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